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[Monochromaticx]

Homing Missile initial delay reduced from 3 to 2.5 seconds
Homing Missile initial delay reduced from 3 to 2.5 seconds
Homing Missile initial delay reduced from 3 to 2.5 seconds
Homing Missile initial delay reduced from 3 to 2.5 seconds

GG MOST OP HERO IN THE GAME INSTA WIN

 

[inkls]

I don't know how I feel about the respawn talents. I have lost games where we would have an almost 2-1 kill advantage, but the respawn talents on their cores was enough to stop our pushes from being super successful allowing them more time to build up and get fat which drew out games. But I think that it is interesting that those talents could allow teams that are losing to delay and hold out.

It was super annoying to focus a lion down at the start of a fight since his disables were what won them fights only to have him come back almost immediately.

It was already dumb when meepo used to have the 10/20/30% respawn reduction tied to his ult that made it super hard to win against him since he was always back up quickly.

 

[Drkirby]

Can you build Urn of Shadows with a partially used Infused Raindrop, or does it need to be a full one?

 

[Consequence]

Can you build Urn of Shadows with a partially used Infused Raindrop, or does it need to be a full one?

Saw on Reddit that it can be a partial one and if you disassemble you get a full one back. Haven't confirmed but still.

 

[elyetis]

Does the deny change make Lich get 130% XP per creep now?

I was wondering the same.

 

[Drkirby]

Holy Persuasion cooldown reduced from 30/26/22/18 to 10
Replaced Respawn Talent: +1000 Creep Health (Level 20)

Waow.


Also AoE Shallow Grave on Dazzle seems pretty good.

I wonder if they will bring any respawn talents back down the line. Removing them all seems pretty extreme (Though about a dozen of them were OP)

 

[BHK3]

Does the deny change make Lich get 130% XP per creep now?

Sacrifice was never a deny.


Chens ult is still garbage. Global mek heal with a cooldown of a blackhole.

GPM talents weren't touched at all surprisingly, I suggest you all continue to pick Phoenix for his +150gpm comeback talent at level 15 before icefrog realizes that most heros get +120gpm at level 20.

Magnus movespeed wasnt changed ingame, go abuse quick with his new scepter.

Wraithkings wraithfire blast uses his ult's AOE which is 900, so when you die you stun everything around you, essentially a slower moving ravage.

Kunkkas Aghs ult wasn't changed, it'll still go to the designated 400 range in front of you though. The ult change made it sound like even aghs ult would crash right on top of you since the boat spawns from within you.

 

[shira]

Furion zero cooldown teleport

 

[Acinixys]

Can you build Urn of Shadows with a partially used Infused Raindrop, or does it need to be a full one?

Must be a full one im sure (looked up, im sure they will patch it by tomorrow)

Mirana buffs yay

MK not getting basher on his ult is going to kill him in competitive

Carry Silencer with aghs is going to crush

Witch Doctor ult is now insane lategame with aghs

 

[Consequence]

Wait does the Bristleback lvl 20 spell lifesteal talent stack with Octarine? Lmao if so

 

[sleverfunk]

Bristleback is going to get stronger this patch.

 

[Tart Toter 9k]

Neutrals

Neutrals now spawn every minute instead of every 2 minutes

thank you Thank You THANK YOU!
I can finally go back to stacking and pulling to get some farm as a support.

Enchanted Mango

Cost reduced from 110 to 100
Cannot be sold, must be consumed

...Why?
Can i still drop them?

 

[Drkirby]

They changed the small wolf neutral, but listed the change under Doom. I know it impacts him, but I don't think it was mentioned anywhere else:
"Removed critical strike from the small wolves in the jungle, attack damage increased by the same amount"

 

[Airan]

Kunkka ship hits where it targets yesssss thank you frosty amphibian my support Kunkka just got nastier with the counter play potential

 

[Drkirby]

Oh god Night Stalker can now Fly.

 

[Hylian7]

Sacrifice was never a deny.

You get a ! when you use it though...

 

[pompidu]

Deny creep xp bonus is nice. Still going through the list.

 

[BHK3]

You get a ! when you use it though...

No, you don't.

Ok, what is a Unique Attack Modifier still? Arcane Orb, Mana Break, and Life Steal? Also about time they made SK's passive not an UAM. Now I can finally go Desolator SK.

If you're not going OoV Blight Stone Frost Arrows level 1 on drow at the start of the game and ganking then ur trash m8

 

[Drkirby]

Ok, what is a Unique Attack Modifier still? Arcane Orb, Mana Break, and Life Steal? Also about time they made SK's passive not an UAM. Now I can finally go Desolator SK.

 

[Consequence]

Windrun becoming a weird Skeleton Walk/Shukuchi ability at lvl 20 is strange.

 

[shira]

Alliance just dropped their roster to have more flexibility before the lock date.

Kunkka ship hits where it targets yesssss thank you frosty amphibian my support Kunkka just got nastier with the counter play potential

nooo my trash boats

 

[Hylian7]

No, you don't.

Just looked it up, never mind, you're right.

I swear there's some spell like that that does show the ! though. Maybe it's Clinkz Death Pact or Doom Devour.

 

[pislit]

MK not getting basher on his ult is going to kill him in competitive

They could've put a cooldown on each proc tied to the basher/abyssal in each instance instead of totally eliminating it, but i guess math is hard or something.

 

[SecretMoblin]

sheever :/

 

[pompidu]

Glad the respawn talents are now gone. Really ruined the flow of the game.

 

[Tart Toter 9k]

Does this pick a target to throw it at or what? It says replaces the slow, but if it's just one target, that sounds like a lousy deal.

It should hit everyone in range, so you get a stun instead of the slow.

 

[misses bull]

How does icefrog dumpster alc and not mag like smh

 

[shira]

Heart and midas every game.

 

[bbd23]

so i can still insta lock bristle?

 

[Twookie]

Not sure of what I think of removing respawn talents just yet. I do like that they're are getting replaced with mostly unique talents(macropyre pure and bkb piercing - waow) , but some heroes really needed it like techies imo for example.

It's probably for the best as it is really annoying to kill a hero and then have the hero come back really fast and stops your push or whatever.

Wait does the Bristleback lvl 20 spell lifesteal talent stack with Octarine? Lmao if so

pretty sure it does, QOP of Pain's talent does atleast.

 

[Qvoth]

wait a minute, so does this mean warlock can use bloodstone to suicide and spawn another golem?
does the golem spawn in a drop that does aoe stun as well?

can someone explain witch doctor true strike on death ward? can death ward's attacks miss in the 1st place?

 

[Hylian7]

wait a minute, so does this mean warlock can use bloodstone to suicide and spawn another golem?
does the golem spawn in a drop that does aoe stun as well?

can someone explain witch doctor true strike on death ward? can death ward's attacks miss in the 1st place?

Better yet, can you take this a step further: Get Bloodstone, Aghs, Refresher, take the Aegis.

Drop ult, Bloodstone suicide, res from Aegis, Refresher, Drop ult again, bloodstone and die again: 6 golems.

 

[Pureauthor]

wait a minute, so does this mean warlock can use bloodstone to suicide and spawn another golem?
does the golem spawn in a drop that does aoe stun as well?

can someone explain witch doctor true strike on death ward? can death ward's attacks miss in the 1st place?

Yes, when Warlock dies there's a Chaotic Offering stun centred around his death location.

 

[pompidu]

Stacking is back! Pretty happy with all these changes.

 

[Reven]

Better yet, can you take this a step further: Get Bloodstone, Aghs, Refresher, take the Aegis.

Drop ult, Bloodstone suicide, res from Aegis, Refresher, Drop ult again, bloodstone and die again: 6 golems.

On reddit they say a death with Aegis won't spawn a golem, but still pretty OP plan.

Night Stalker has always been my favorite hero and he was already strong at my low MMR so I'm really gonna love his change.

 

[Hylian7]

On reddit they say a death with Aegis won't spawn a golem, but still pretty OP plan.

Night Stalker has always been my favorite hero and he was already strong at my low MMR so I'm really gonna love his change.

I see, well it's still possible to drop ult, die (without aegis), buyback, BoTs in on one of the golems, drop ult again, bloodstone again. That's 6 golems.

5 is still cool though.

 

[Technosteve]

I thought neutral respawn wad always 2 mins when was it 1 min? Pre dota 2? Does this mean we see more jungle lycans in game?

 

[kvk1]

Stacking is back! Pretty happy with all these changes.

if you're happy i'm happy

 

[Hylian7]

I thought neutral respawn wad always 2 mins when was it 1 min? Pre dota 2? Does this mean we see more jungle lycans in game?

Pre-7.00 it was always every minute.

 

[Kard8p3]

riki is so fukn slow at the start now

 

[Technosteve]

Pre-7.00 it was always every minute.

Yes my memory is bad. Stack at 45 sec timing.

Axe aghs is leegit

 

[Quesa]

So what's going to replace basher in MK builds? Back to echo, or something like deso/diffusal?

 

[Proelite]

Drow with

Phase, Dragon Lance, Blithe stone, Aquila and MOM going to be mid game cancer.

 

[shira]

So what's going to replace basher in MK builds? Back to echo, or something like deso/diffusal?

Arcana price crashed.

Even the plebs know he got nerfed to shreds

 

[KingKong]

Waow.


Also AoE Shallow Grave on Dazzle seems pretty good.

450 AoE Shallow Grave seems crazy good, I guess you need to farm that scepter though. thats a full on wombo combo counter

 

[Imp the Dimp]

The patch notes look amazing. Played my last game in late January (worst patch ever) and I'm eager to play a lower paced Dota again.

 

[Strider]

holy shit the ganks n escapes you can pull off with nightstalker now are insane... literally one of my favorite heroes now I think. Just one game in and the patch already feels waaaaay more fun than 7.05.

 

[waxinlyrical]

The patch notes look amazing. Played my last game in late January (worst patch ever) and I'm eager to play a lower paced Dota again.

Yeah these patch notes look great.

I don't even play Dota anymore and I'm still excited about it

 

[Wok]

The day has come for the long awaited change.

And many other cool changes:

Uphill miss chance no longer applies to flying units

Roshan now drops cheese from the second death instead of the third

Except this one:

Riki

• Base movement speed reduced by 5

 

[Monochromaticx]

The day has come for the long awaited change.

drow frost arrows (no longer uam) + deso + skadi