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Dragon Age II |OT| The Revenge of Shit Mountain
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My mage is at level 23, and I played 44.5 hours. Once I loaded that save I was at level 24.
They forgot we were supposed to play this for hours. Not just watch it passively, which would have been worse.John Harker said:
What!? How did I miss that.
Although you probably don't recruit anyone for the next DA, this was the same case in DA2. It was all about character interaction, though it was somewhat limited.sillymonkey321 said:
Coo.Durante said:
Domino Theory
Crystal Dynamics
For some reason, Sebastian is locked in as a party member for me even though I did his quest. Any help on how to get rid of him?
HadesGigas
Member
Domino Theory said:
Going back to your house should toss everyone out of your party.
Domino Theory
Crystal Dynamics
<3X-Frame said:
sillymonkey321 said:
Yeah, the time played will inevitably vary depending on how obsessive you are about getting every side quest done. Ultimately though the vast majority of the side quests are rather dull and the reused locations only adds fuel to the fire, so the ones finishing at 20-30 hours or less by doing main quests only probably didn't miss much in terms of significant content.
ended this game yesterday.was good not bad like some people are saying but not as good as DAO...Characters were great and interaction with them was dun to listen..but the recycled areas i thought it was being exaggerated but they were basically three dungeons over and over again even the sewers were the same as the low town.story was average at est but at least Boiware tried approached it in a different meaner than their usually recur-ting missions
and Dx11 implementation was very bad..vvbaad.my 5750 was barely running it at 30 fps with lots of dips at 1024*768 res
and Dx11 implementation was very bad..vvbaad.my 5750 was barely running it at 30 fps with lots of dips at 1024*768 res
sweetvar26
Member
Got a question, does the DA: Origins save carry over to this game like ME2 or no?
HadesGigas
Member
sweetvar26 said:
Yes. Not as important, but there are references to your warden and cameos by DA:O characters that change depending on what you did in it.
sweetvar26
Member
HadesGigas said:
Okay, thanks.
You can add me to the list of people who don't see how this game can be beaten in 20-30 hours. I'm in the middle of ACT II and I'm nearing 60 hours so far.
Maybe it's because I play on Nightmare and enjoy reading the codex. But I also take time to back-track, and you'd be surprised how many side-quests pop-up while randomly "exploring" that you wouldn't have discovered otherwise.
Maybe it's because I play on Nightmare and enjoy reading the codex. But I also take time to back-track, and you'd be surprised how many side-quests pop-up while randomly "exploring" that you wouldn't have discovered otherwise.
DLaren said:You can add me to the list of people who don't see how this game can be beaten in 20-30 hours. I'm in the middle of ACT II and I'm nearing 60 hours so far.
Maybe it's because I play on Nightmare and enjoy reading the codex. But I also take time to back-track, and you'd be surprised how many side-quests pop-up while randomly "exploring" that you wouldn't have discovered otherwise.
DLaren said:
DLaren said:
Well that explains it doesn't it?
Playing on Nightmare drastically increases playtime, at least on your first time through the game. The average times I've seen from people playing Nightmare compared to Normal are usually at least 10-15 hours apart. My first save clocked in at a little under 60 hours, which is about the same as my first DAO save, also on Nightmare (granted, I did more sidequests in DA2).
I imagine repeat playthroughs would probably cut down on the difference, though. The lack of variety in encounters tends to mean that by the time you've played through on Nightmare, you are really, really good at the half-dozen or so kinds of non-boss fights the game throws at you. On my first playthrough I remember having a lot of KOs in my party and a fair number of Game Overs and near-wipes. I've made it a few hours into a second go-around and it's rare for anyone to go below half health, because I pretty much know the game's whole bag of tricks inside and out.
I imagine repeat playthroughs would probably cut down on the difference, though. The lack of variety in encounters tends to mean that by the time you've played through on Nightmare, you are really, really good at the half-dozen or so kinds of non-boss fights the game throws at you. On my first playthrough I remember having a lot of KOs in my party and a fair number of Game Overs and near-wipes. I've made it a few hours into a second go-around and it's rare for anyone to go below half health, because I pretty much know the game's whole bag of tricks inside and out.
^ I felt like a real live magician when I would guess the exact moment the next wave would appear.
What is the highest level that anyone can achieve in this game without cheating? I know I didn't do a few quests. But the DLC's probably add up and that the Facebook unlockable gives you 2500 XP. I think being at 24 is pretty ridiculous considering how repetitive it gets.
What is the highest level that anyone can achieve in this game without cheating? I know I didn't do a few quests. But the DLC's probably add up and that the Facebook unlockable gives you 2500 XP. I think being at 24 is pretty ridiculous considering how repetitive it gets.
Just finished it, took almost exactly 35 hours doing every quest I could find. Incredibly dissatisfied with the ending. They do no favors throughout the game mentioning the Warden, all it did was remind me of how much more I liked those characters and being someone special without it being forced. Character motivations made almost no sense during some key points:
Infuriating.
Gamlen: Your mother is missing and received lilies this morning. Hawke: Hmmmmmm I'm sure she's fine! I'll look for her tonight instead of actually worrying about the whole serial killer thing!
I like how we had no choice in helping, even though this damn series is supposed to provide us with them. The game is infuriating. It makes it painfully obvious if you did a previous quest. I was expecting Hawke to take action. Instead he downplays it:
KTHXBYE.
, and we can't do anything about it. :|
"Ah, I'll just tell Aveline. The Guard will help."
Mother becomes the bride of Frankenstein
The Champion armour. You need 31 in the primary and secondary attribute for any class, so for a mage 31 magic and 31 willpower, etc.Xamdou said:
http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Champion_Armor
Fimbulvetr
Member
Zeliard said:
Actually the stereotypical JRPG protagonist is a happy-go-lucky 14-16 year old who never shuts up about friendship.
I'm not sure where anyone got the idea that Cloud/Squall is the archetypal JRPG lead.
This is gotta be a joke. In Act
, the crowd celebrating at the end was basically three human models copy pasted all around. You lazy fucks.
And I entered the SAME cave for a main plot quest-chain three fucking times in a row.
This game feels like an expansion pack, and not a good one at that.
I really loved the statistics in DA:O, is it removed entirely or hidden somewhere ? I liked seeing who topped the damage done chart and damage taken.
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And I entered the SAME cave for a main plot quest-chain three fucking times in a row.
This game feels like an expansion pack, and not a good one at that.
I really loved the statistics in DA:O, is it removed entirely or hidden somewhere ? I liked seeing who topped the damage done chart and damage taken.
masterkajo
Member
I finished it yesterday evening. Took me about 86 hours. Didn't find every crafting resource (missed one in Act 2). Also did not manage to get anyone to be a rival. Didn't get the achievement for
. Did lose
of my companions. Waiting for a patch (so I don't have to have Isabela and Sebastian in my party while playing a rogue archer on nightmare) for a second playthrough.
taking the throne
3 (almost 5)
Beat the game. It's fun enough for me to go through it, but it's the buggiest game I have ever played. These are some of the problems I faced at least once every single time I played:
- Freezing issues. Got to wait minutes before it starts up again. The latest NVidia Beta driver fixed this, but introduced extreme screen tearing.
- Can't attack/target anyone. Got to switch between characters to get it working again.
- Can't move with the keyboard until I use click-to-move first. Pretty brutal since an AOE can kill me if I don't get out of the way quick enough.
Then, there are stuff that damn near game breaking if you don't save enough.
- Redoing quests because triggers didn't work correctly. Particularly likely if I run too far from the battlefield.
- Main character permanently slowed. By the end of the game, I was down to three members as my main character was only good as a punching bag. Made the battles on hard last a lot longer.
- Quest bugs. There's a quest I can't seem to trigger no matter what and Merril's questline must have gotten swapped somehow because the order I completed it didn't make sense.
- Revival. I'm not sure if revival is so suppose to be so overpowered. Given a high enough HP, the revived person will regenerate hp much faster than damage done.
- Freezing issues. Got to wait minutes before it starts up again. The latest NVidia Beta driver fixed this, but introduced extreme screen tearing.
- Can't attack/target anyone. Got to switch between characters to get it working again.
- Can't move with the keyboard until I use click-to-move first. Pretty brutal since an AOE can kill me if I don't get out of the way quick enough.
Then, there are stuff that damn near game breaking if you don't save enough.
- Redoing quests because triggers didn't work correctly. Particularly likely if I run too far from the battlefield.
- Main character permanently slowed. By the end of the game, I was down to three members as my main character was only good as a punching bag. Made the battles on hard last a lot longer.
- Quest bugs. There's a quest I can't seem to trigger no matter what and Merril's questline must have gotten swapped somehow because the order I completed it didn't make sense.
- Revival. I'm not sure if revival is so suppose to be so overpowered. Given a high enough HP, the revived person will regenerate hp much faster than damage done.
ShockingAlberto
Member
He would be the perfect example of a JRPG lead if the person designing him had only ever played one JRPG.Zeliard said:
It's just bad writing to everyone else.
reggieandTFE
Member
I'm about 2 hours into Act 3 and I've played for 25 hours on Normal. I've done every single side quest/companion mission that popped up or I encountered.
I'm having a blast and can't wait to play through on Hard with a dual-wielding rogue Hawke.
I'm having a blast and can't wait to play through on Hard with a dual-wielding rogue Hawke.
SpacePirate Ridley
Member
Fuck this game, fuck it in the ass
And the fucking game erased the auto saved I had before the mission
I will not use anders, mother fucking whiny son of a bitch, and the elf chic is a fucking useless mage.
Fuck you Bioware! I lost 6 hours of my life.
What and incompetent shitty second rate team did dragon age 2? the fucking Bioware office sweepers?
Im not going to play this game in some time, I have too much anger with it right now.
Bethany was killed in the deep roads, no intro about an attack and how they stab her or some shit, no warning, no I can change this, no nothing. Only some shit in the face and bye.
My best healer and cast big spells is gone for good. And one of the less anoying characters.
And I know the game takes her away also if you leave her behind, but at least you can save her at the end it seems.
My best healer and cast big spells is gone for good. And one of the less anoying characters.
And I know the game takes her away also if you leave her behind, but at least you can save her at the end it seems.
I will not use anders, mother fucking whiny son of a bitch, and the elf chic is a fucking useless mage.
Fuck you Bioware! I lost 6 hours of my life.
What and incompetent shitty second rate team did dragon age 2? the fucking Bioware office sweepers?
Im not going to play this game in some time, I have too much anger with it right now.
HadesGigas
Member
SpacePirate Ridley said:
Your mother warned you!
And like you said, she's gone no matter what, so I'm not sure why you "lost 6 hours". Are you really going to replay the whole game to slightly change the fate of a character you'll see again maybe twice?
Or are you just done with the game entirely? It'd probably be for the best if you're this mad at this specific part of the game, you'd probably hurt yourself or those around you once you got to Act III.
SpacePirate Ridley
Member
HadesGigas said:
Shitty warning, I supposed that if I
leave Beathany behind she would be killed by the soldiers, or be in a prison, and thats what seems to happen
she turns ill, did they not remember to do it or something? She is ill... yeah, fucking how?
use her with cheats in the PC version, and yeah, I would have repeted that part only to save her, but fucking game has erased my save
And you know why im angry
that they didnt give me a decission to save her or not?
Are there new and better characters in the rest of the chapters, or this is it?
Rahxephon91
Banned
Whats wrong with the game having repercussions based on your choices? Or having things happen that may suck, but actually effect the narrative. Isn't that what people want from these games?
HadesGigas
Member
SpacePirate Ridley said:
In the prologue
Aveline's husband dies from the same thing, they explain it then. Darkspawn taint and all that. You actually can save her, but only if you brought Anders with you as well, he can have her become a Grey Warden instead (she still leaves for the rest of the game). Leaving her behind she's forced into the Circle.
The only other character you can get after Act I is Sebastian, he's the pay DLC/signiture edition content.
RPGCrazied
Member
Any word on DLC yet?
ThoseDeafMutes
Member
Rahxephon91 said:
When there are three highly distinct outcomes to a situation, but all of them result in exactly the same thing anyway, that is not good design, that's railroading. Your sibling can be left at home and get caught by the templars/join the templars (Carver joins, Bethany snatched up by), or you can take them on the Deep Roads where they die or Join the Grey Wardens (if you brought Anders with you).
Rahxephon91
Banned
Yes and your choice effect what happens to her in the story. That's exactly the kind of choice I want in these games.ThoseDeafMutes said:
DimmuBurgerKing
Member
SpacePirate Ridley said:
James Rolfe, is that you?!
HadesGigas
Member
Rahxephon91 said:
The leave her home choice was horribly done, I thought. You'd think Hawke would at least visit or anything (like say go "fuck no" and stop it from happening). He doesn't even write her back when she sends a letter, what a douche.
Xilium
Member
I think the problem that others and myself have is that whenever you are given a choice in this game, the outcome of those choices is almost always exactly the same. The flavor text/scenes you get inbetween may be slightly different but it is mostly superficial. You only have to go back and replay some of the major scenes w/ opposite choices from the first time to realize just how little your choices matter. TheRahxephon91 said:
Bethany/Carver
(or they can die, which also doesn't change anything. Regardless, that character leaves your party).
ThoseDeafMutes
Member
Rahxephon91 said:
Yes I love having all of my choices trivialized too. It's fantastic.
SpacePirate Ridley
Member
Rahxephon91 said:
Rahxephon91 said:
No, its fucking badly done. Now play the witcher to see what actual decissions make changes to the characters, story, and hard ones to make.
When I played the witcher, characters could die in some way or another, or events change, giving you a dramatic feeling, but there was always a decission, and even if a character was going to die whatever you chose its was done ina much better way that the Deep Roads "decission".
For fucks sake, even Mass Effect 1 and 2 have better decissions than this game. I didnt want something like the witcher, I love ME 1 and 2, but Dragon Age 2 is just insanely bad..
HadesGigas said:
Yes, but at least Aveline's husband was stabbed by a darkspawn. The thing is, you dont see anyting like that in the Deep Roads, just a cutscene
Hey bro, im ill.
I fought darkspawn at the beginning of the deep roads mission, there are no more in the middle, and there are even several bosses. How the fuck could her survive all that time.
Is Sebastian any good? I have the signature edition.
HadesGigas
Member
SpacePirate Ridley said:
Fairly stereotypical churchy-type personality. I didn't use him much, Varric was the rogue archer I'd usually go with since he felt more connected to the story.
If you're playing with an anti-mage viewpoint he'd probably make a good companion.