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[Digital-Aftertaste]

so? Movies, music, arts in generel, and offcourse video games are made by people. And all of them will always have political ideas, preferences, believes etc. Why is the mere mention of these kind of aspects/topics already enough for you to dismiss the whole product? I really dont get that. Every single medium created has some kind of underlying agenda. Thats how it works.

this is the counter argument... Imagine if Veilguard was its own IP as is, then 10 years down the line it becomes a dumb, crass, macho hack 'n slash with themes similar to the first Gears of War or Duke Nukem. A huge fan of Veilguard would be rightfully insulted. Now imagine new "fans" insulting fans of the original for being insulted and saying that they're acting stupid and that their opinions should be invalidated.

I could go on about arts vs products and the pandering of initiatives for the sake of pan-handling, but this is the basic gist of it... And then you also got the crazy people on the internet which ofc is something else entirely.

 

[Exede]

I think it depends more on person at this point.

Some people see purple hues in art style and take offence at that. While others are scratching their head at whats issue with the game?

It's not all over the place. What will be all over the place is bad writing. The woke stuff will be sprinkled here and there - character creator, character design, occasional bits of dialog. No doubt there is some selection going on, rage-bait for clicks, confirmation bias, and exaggeration. For example, I suspect that the Grummz clip above is something that will not be forced on everyone but only seen by people who choose to use pronouns they/them earlier in the game - in which case, they've asked for it. Non-wokies will not choose to use they/them pronouns and will not be subjected to that embarrassing lecture.

But where there's smoke there's usually fire, and there's plenty of smoke here. How much woke is baked into the cake, it's hard to say. All we've heard from so far is access journalists who have been specially selected for being favorable to the game, so they're not going to be critical of the woke stuff. I'd look to user reviews and to non-access journalists you trust for a better idea about the scope of the woke.

Thanks you both, will wait for more reviews to judge the game for myself.

 

[GymWolf]

Roach boy sound tame as fuck, the 2 week ban must have castrated him a bit.

 

[tamago84]

Geez. Totally unnecessary in a video game. I'm fine with having options to create these types of characters....but keep this lecturing nonsense out of my videogames.

truth. if i wanted to learn woke culture i would fucking take gender studies 69 back in community college.

 

[xpresstuning]

I don't know who is worse: the overly woke crowd or the butthurt right-wingers who basically fill their entire existence with anti-woke content, posting to indulge in their hate for different opinions and lifestyles.

Y'all are both equally insufferable and contribute to the destruction of our beloved hobby. Absolutely mental what people write on here. Get a life.

its a work of fiction. And creators get to choose what they create. Thats called creative freedom. You dont like what they produce? Dont buy it. Simple as that. Nodboy ows you anything. Even if you are a fan.

Your derogatory epithets are meaningless. They're silly these days, because they're grossly overused. No one gives a shit.

Opinions are a bitch, sometimes they diverge.

The fact that the creators chose to make a video game, promote it and sell it means that they should take self-accountability regarding its reception. I'm free to shit on it based on what i see. Whether me shitting on it or not is justified is open for debate. The debate in question can be civil, honest and constructive. Or it cannot be, in which case, i'll just shit on it for the horrid writing i have witnessed until i'm bored of doing so.

 

[SkylineRKR]

I don't know who is worse: the overly woke crowd or the butthurt right-wingers who basically fill their entire existence with anti-woke content, posting to indulge in their hate for different opinions and lifestyles.

Y'all are both equally insufferable and contribute to the destruction of our beloved hobby. Absolutely mental what people write on here. Get a life.

its a work of fiction. And creators get to choose what they create. Thats called creative freedom. You dont like what they produce? Dont buy it. Simple as that. Nodboy ows you anything. Even if you are a fan.

Creative freedom is something that gets lost if your project needs to be reviewed by shits like Sweet Baby. They are likely responsible for toning down certain designs and events you might have conjured up as a creator.

This is the problem. People here have no issues with games and studios not being tainted by these agendas. Its the ones pushing diversity for the sake of being diverse that gets flak.

 

[Arsic]

I bought it.

Let the shit show ensue.