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Dragon Age: The Veilguard | Review Thread

What scores do you think Dragon Age: The Veilguard will get?

  • 60-64%

    Votes: 14 4.9%
  • 65-69%

    Votes: 14 4.9%
  • 70-74%

    Votes: 23 8.1%
  • 75-79%

    Votes: 59 20.8%
  • 80-84%

    Votes: 107 37.8%
  • 85-89%

    Votes: 53 18.7%
  • 90-94%

    Votes: 8 2.8%
  • 95-100%

    Votes: 5 1.8%

  • Total voters
    283
  • Poll closed .

sigmaZ

Member
I bought it.

Let the shit show ensue.
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graywolf323

Member

RPG Fan just gave it a 95 which matches the score their first review gave DA:O and also a 97 (!) for story which is the highest rating they’ve given any Dragon Age game’s story
 
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amigastar

Member
So i've seen some of my Youtubers saying the game isn't all shit.
Now i'm curious about the game (a little bit) maybe when it's on sale i might get it.
 

ElFenomeno

Member

RPG Fan just gave it a 95 which matches the score their first review gave DA:O and also a 97 (!) for story which is the highest rating they’ve given any Dragon Age game’s story
The reviewer enjoyed ME Andromeda. Yeah, I'm good. :messenger_tears_of_joy:
 
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Mayar

Member

RPG Fan just gave it a 95 which matches the score their first review gave DA:O and also a 97 (!) for story which is the highest rating they’ve given any Dragon Age game’s story

Who are they and where did they come from... Honestly, having looked at their review of the first three pages, almost everything there is either 80 or 90. And it is impossible to take such a resource seriously, since such a number of high ratings simply reduces their value. For which Famitsu was highly valued at the time, since it was almost impossible to get 40 there (if I remember correctly, about 30 games during its entire existence), and even 39 was very difficult to get (About 50 during its entire existence). But if every second game on your site is 80-90, then it is possible to take such a resource seriously.

P.S - Ys X: Nordics 93, Romancing SaGa 2 -95...
And according to their own rating system, it turns out that Dragon Age: The Veilguard at the level of these games, which I won’t even comment on...
 
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Who are they and where did they come from...
They way online marketing and shit works these days, I'd bet you publishers like EA and Ubisoft not only pay some people to write good reviews for their shit products. They also proxy build review outlets, along with the obligatory bot farms to produce engagement and post positive reactions. Games journalism is nothing but thinly veiled, poorly generated astroturf marketing dogshit.
 

graywolf323

Member
Who are they and where did they come from... Honestly, having looked at their review of the first three pages, almost everything there is either 80 or 90. And it is impossible to take such a resource seriously, since such a number of high ratings simply reduces their value. For which Famitsu was highly valued at the time, since it was almost impossible to get 40 there (if I remember correctly, about 30 games during its entire existence), and even 39 was very difficult to get (About 50 during its entire existence). But if every second game on your site is 80-90, then it is possible to take such a resource seriously.

P.S - Ys X: Nordics 93, Romancing SaGa 2 -95...
And according to their own rating system, it turns out that Dragon Age: The Veilguard at the level of these games, which I won’t even comment on...
They way online marketing and shit works these days, I'd bet you publishers like EA and Ubisoft not only pay some people to write good reviews for their shit products. They also proxy build review outlets, along with the obligatory bot farms to produce engagement and post positive reactions. Games journalism is nothing but thinly veiled, poorly generated astroturf marketing dogshit.
RPGFan is over 25+ years old and started out as a Lunar fansite (LunarNET), you can see it on the site if you checked, they started in 1998

 

Mayar

Member
RPGFan is over 25+ years old and started out as a Lunar fansite (LunarNET), you can see it on the site if you checked, they started in 1998
I don't want to say anything bad, because I've never heard of them. But damn, the evaluation criteria and the way they evaluate games is extremely bad, especially the fact that they have no boundaries and practically every second game from the 80-90 is a game of the year. I can't take such a resource seriously.
 
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Really enjoying this. Not too far in, but played the first section. Looks fantastic, and I like the characters so far. Made a better first impression than Outlaws did, and I went on to really like that as well… Not quite finished it yet, so will park this to play next.
 

graywolf323

Member
I don't want to say anything bad, because I've never heard of them. But damn, the evaluation criteria and the way they evaluate games is extremely bad, especially the fact that they have no boundaries and practically every second game from the 80-90 is a game of the year. I can't take such a resource seriously.
I mean RPGs are their focus and you’ll find a lot of people that are going to be massive fans of Ys X and Romancing Saga, it’s not like they give everything that high, though Audra might given she also gave 80+ scores to Flintlock and Dustborn but her awards for 2023 were solid

 
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Alex11

Member
So i've seen some of my Youtubers saying the game isn't all shit.
Now i'm curious about the game (a little bit) maybe when it's on sale i might get it.
No, it isn't shit, IMO it's mediocre, maybe even good-ish in some places, but I think something else is happening now.
As the game was being shitted on before release and there was this disappointment feeling for many, some who went into the game with no expectations kinda did an 180, a sort of reverse effect of sorts.
 

Mayar

Member
I mean RPGs are their focus and you’ll find a lot of people that are going to be massive fans of Ys X and Romancing Saga, it’s not like they give everything that high, though Audra might given she also gave 80+ scores to Flintlock and Dustborn but her awards for 2023 were solid


I simply noted that they have no evaluation criteria, their evaluations are extremely chaotic and do not follow any norms or logic.
Let's say they gave 95 DA, they gave the same to BG3. Which is strange in itself, but we are not discussing people's tastes here, they are all different, and we will not even discuss why BG3 has lower scores in almost all points (Although those who think that the story, quests and level of dialogue writing in DA are at the level of BG3 100% need to read the books...)
Let's see
DA: 93 + 94 + 95 + 94 + 97 \ 5 = 94.6 ok they made it 95
BG3: 93 + 97 + 85 + 75 + 97\ 5 = 89.4 I have no idea how they got 95, apparently God sent it, but let's assume.
Romancing SaGa 2: 90 + 100 + 100 + 90 +90 \5 = 94 Well, they wanted to round it up and they made it 95, although there's nothing to round up there. (I won't even pay attention to the fact that this game has better ratings than DA and BG3)
Ys X: Nordics: 86 + 82 +97 + 95 +97\ 5 = 91.4 But they have 93
Persona 3 Reload: 85 + 90 + 80 + 100 + 85\5 = 88 But they have 83
Visions of Mana: 95 (Yes, in their opinion, the graphics in this game are better then in DA) + 85 + 90 + 90 +75\5 = 87 precise hit, soooooo when necessary they can count
Black Myth: Wukong: 95 + 90 + 90 + 100 + 90\5 = 93 their rating is 92

I just don't see any system or logic in their ratings, it feels like they give ratings without taking into account that games of a similar genre are already on the market and don't compare with them, but purely give ratings in isolation from other games.

P.S - Well, the cherry on the cake... 82... I'll just leave it here, without even commenting. Although considering that they gave 85 for the story, in their opinion, the story in this game is on the level of Persona 3...
 
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xVodevil

Member
Bad and boring writing is what I've seen. Is it confirmed now that there is absolutely no good or bad path in dialogues? Just like 'yeah okay' or 'whatever' and 'oof'
That woke whatever stuff aside if that is true for this title, it just should have been a straightforward linear action game with no dialogue choices (preferably under new IP)
Where's the fun in having the same 4 dialogue choice in an RPG like this?
 

DonkeyPunchJr

World’s Biggest Weeb
I mean RPGs are their focus and you’ll find a lot of people that are going to be massive fans of Ys X and Romancing Saga, it’s not like they give everything that high, though Audra might given she also gave 80+ scores to Flintlock and Dustborn but her awards for 2023 were solid

RPGFan is/was a great site for JRPG news since the PS1 days, up there with RPGamer. But I always remembered them having maybe THE most inflated review scores I’ve ever seen.

Sometimes they’d have reviews where every paragraph was criticizing some aspect of the game, then they’d give it like a 88%. Anything under 85% was ass.

It does seem like they’ve toned it down in recent years though.
 

YuLY

Member
Some impressions from reddit, holy hell this sounds BAD, these people are like "I'm tired boss" and this is from the official Dragon Age section. My God, what has Bioware done to this francize bros.
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thread link if you wanna check out the OP:
 

PeteBull

Member
Bad and boring writing is what I've seen. Is it confirmed now that there is absolutely no good or bad path in dialogues? Just like 'yeah okay' or 'whatever' and 'oof'
That woke whatever stuff aside if that is true for this title, it just should have been a straightforward linear action game with no dialogue choices (preferably under new IP)
Where's the fun in having the same 4 dialogue choice in an RPG like this?
This game wasnt made in order for players to have fun, its main purpose is to lecture us about trans ppl and their rights :D
 

Alex11

Member
Well at least the game is drawing out the idiots like youself for my ignore list. Bye!
I mean I don't fully agree with his take because I didn't encounter anything that aggravating so far, but why are you making it personal and attack him like that?
I see this constantly, Jesus, it's just a game, of course there's gonna be diverse opinions, and for good measure, the game has many issues, I don't get these absolute takes.
 

Jatrid

Neo Member
Damn, I was about to drop some $ on this game. I'll just wait for the Pro to come out and Play Dragon's Dogma 2.
 

Humdinger

Gold Member


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He was far more fair to it than I ever expected. That says the game would be alright if not for all the preachy propaganda.


He added more in the pinned comment. Here is his concluding paragraph:

I am saddened more than angry as I know I would have loved a proper version of this game where the characters are more realistic and gritty, where the combat was less focused on spam and more on your abilities, where companions meant more than just an extra few spells for you and where the writing would immerse me in a huge world linear or not. I often felt that I was surrounded by political activists not fantasy characters in an RPG. A massive wasted opportunity and how anyone can say this game is good is beyond all comprehension, it has some good things which I reflected in my score but as a fantasy RPG it's a disgrace.

He also echoed the now-familiar complaint about the dialog/writing:

The dialog options are horrible as is the writing and that is because they hired people more interested in pushing "the message" than making great character arcs and realistic banter between companions. Everyone is friendly, sympathetic, understanding, kind, generous no matter how much you try to piss them off, it's nuts, the entire game is treading on egg shells for fear of doing anything offensive [....]
 
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UnrealEck

Member
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He was far more fair to it than I ever expected. That says the game would be alright if not for all the preachy propaganda.

I disagree with him about the abilities. I find the dropkick stupid. A full plate armoured, battleaxe wielding guy drop kicking demons looks dumb. But I guess it fits with the rest of the game. The abilities your teammates have don't stand out in uniqueness with clearly defined identifiable traits. I always go back to a game like WoW where a frostbolt is so easily identifiable in that it has a specific icon that's so unique and intuitive to instantly see that (even as a new player) that's a magical bolt of frost. It has its own recognisable sound so even if you don't cast it you can tell when someone nearby has. As it flies through the air it is, again, identifiable. The abilities in DAV aren't like that they are just very generic and I find myself just picking one that the menu tells me will be detonated by another (which I'll then use afterwards because the menu tells me). It's really lazy design.
edit - Just realised the reviewer mentioned WoW himself. But not for the same reason.

Music might be okay in some parts but I've heard a lot of the music that sounds very out of place. It sounds similar to Deus Ex type music in that it uses a lot of electronic keyboard effects. It literally sounds like it's in the wrong game. Maybe they had spare music from Mass Effect they used. Who knows.
 
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xenosys

Member
He talks about the writing. So true



"I just watched a Dragon Age playthrough and it’s quite unfathomable how infantile and terrible the writing is. Everything feels sanitized and dehumanized."

That's exactly what some other reviewers have alluded to. Water it down to be so sanitized that it becomes uninteresting and bland.

For what it's worth, having played about 10 hours of it, there's a lot of like about it. The visuals are great, I don't mind the stylized art at all. The combat is decent I wish you could control other party members, and they don't even have health bars FFS.

Most of the issues in this game are less to do with gameplay and more to do with writing.
 
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