Angry_Megalodon
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New space science fiction IP is not as popular as zombie-apocalyptic. Intergalactic will probably sell well, but they shouldn't expect crazy numbers, even if the game is goty material.
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Dragon Age: The Veilguard Sold Worse Than 'Star Wars Outlaws' In Europe
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New space science fiction IP is not as popular as zombie-apocalyptic. Intergalactic will probably sell well, but they shouldn't expect crazy numbers, even if the game is goty material.
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Agreed. I would also add that sci-fi is mostly a nerd male genre, and the main character they decided to go with may not be very appealing to the main target demographic.
SF Kosmo
Al Jazeera Special Reporter
Yeah I mean that was always a complaint about bioware though, like the choices a lot of times were like Save Puppies/Stomp Puppies, the evil choices didn't feel grounded.
The Witcher 2 and 3 really broke through because they forced you to make hard choices that weren't always clear, and had very different outcomes that were often hard to predict. That, to me, is good writing in a game like this, and it's never really been Bioware's bag.
IDKFA
I am Become Bilbo Baggins
I disagree. I finished KOTOR recently and as well as good/evil choices, you do also get to select neutral dialogue options if you want to be "grey". I always pick the most evil options in RPGs because I find it amusing.
Bioware now appears to be very inoffensive in terms of player choice and dialogue options. You know longer have the choice on being an absolute evil C U Next Tuesday.
I do agree that CDPR did this better.
ArtHands
Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
It's Naughty Dog. Sony's prestige studio. I am sure they will be able to do so and surpass themselves.
SF Kosmo
Al Jazeera Special Reporter
You have to remember TLOU came out when people were burning out on an over-abundance of zombie games and succeeded despite that.
SF Kosmo
Al Jazeera Special Reporter
Wasn't that a hoax?
"a rEtuRn tO fOrM foR BiOWaRe!"
I hope that becomes a forever meme and we never let live that shit down.
MMaRsu
Member
No?
JayK47
Member
The absolute opposite of a return to form. They do deserve to be endlessly mocked for it. And in my opinion, it should be the end of Bioware. Barely a Dragon Age game and they bought and paid for critics to cut and paste positive reviews. The whole thing is everything that is wrong with gaming.
"a rEtuRn tO fOrM foR BiOWaRe!"
I hope that becomes a forever meme and we never let live that shit down.
BacklashWave534
Member
Literally, everything with woke bullshit is failing because normal everyday people have finally had enough. When a game is developed with an agenda everything else (story, characters, gameplay, etc.) takes a backseat as we have seen with several games this year.
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
You probably invest less in things you get for free. Most people would stick with a game longer if they paid for it.Its biggest problem is that its not a fun videogameI pirated it and couldnt play more than an hour without getting bored. So yeah, even free not worth your time.
SM2 is not single player only, 3 player story coop + multiplayer. That said the game is fantastic.
MayauMiao
Member
That's like saying Bioware will be able to surpass themselves.
People need to stop having this fantasy that Naughty Dog can do no wrong.
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MH3M3D
Member
True, but I usually see it as a demo and buy the game if I liked it.
Not just games but movies, comics, even beer. The last year or so has been a domino fall.
These DEI games are eating dirts one by one.
Avowed, Assassin's Creed: Shadows are next....then Yotei and Intergalactic in the next 1-2 years
Anyone who pays attention to entertainment knew which way the US election was going to go, I’ll tell you that.
BbMajor7th
Member
I move in a lot of very progressive circles filled with long-time Dragon Age fans - most of them were thoroughly disappointed if not outright infuriated by Veilguard.
There is every sense that the game was made by people with little development experience who believed they could improve significantly on the efforts of celebrated creators before them. Hubris in the extreme mixed with a death of talent or experience - the results: a preachy, smug and self-satisfied slog of game; a failure from which its creators will stubbornly and defiantly refuse to learn anything.
There is every sense that the game was made by people with little development experience who believed they could improve significantly on the efforts of celebrated creators before them. Hubris in the extreme mixed with a death of talent or experience - the results: a preachy, smug and self-satisfied slog of game; a failure from which its creators will stubbornly and defiantly refuse to learn anything.
Angry_Megalodon
Member
This is modern creators in a nutshell. It's the same in cinema, comics and videogames, a bunch of talentless pretenders who disrespect the works of actual creators.
thismeinteil
Member
Unless Yotei has extremely cringe writing, I'm sure it'll be fine. Intergalactic, on the other hand, I hope burns down in flames and Druckman is either humbled or fired.
These DEI games are eating dirts one by one.
Avowed, Assassin's Creed: Shadows are next....then Yotei and Intergalactic in the next 1-2 years
Catphish
Member
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
These DEI games are going to destroy the industry and then they will try and blame the audience.
What a crazy timeline
What a crazy timeline
Stuart360
Member
I mean the Sweet Baby boss literally said publicly that was their goal.
What a world we live in.
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
The # of western studios/publishers who have been destroyed, or at least degraded, by DEI woke bullshit is incredible. Nearing 100%. It’s crazy to think of how many billions of dollars were squandered, how much wealth was destroyed, in the name of this disgusting ideology.
RoboFu
One of the green rats
AAA gaming direction was pretty shit and stagnant anyway. The industry needs a good shake up where only the good games come out on top.
Buggy Loop
Member
Will it though? My list of studios that closed because they made immersive sims, which is arguably the best genre of gaming for the last 25 years, is too damn big.
recursive
Member
Of course it would help. Who wants to play as a transgender dragon?
Kerotan
Member
Tranny's who identify as dragons? Has to be at least one out there.
Kotaro
Member
It's the Western gaming industry they're destroying. their own bread and butter
Asian games will be just fine, and that's more than enough for us gamers
CrustyBritches
Gold Member
Yup. And the the rise of Chinese AAA is coming at the worst possible moment for the wokies. They're poking the bear by shit talking Elon Musk, too. Dude has one of, if not the most powerful AI supercomputer clusters in the world. I doubt AI would do worse at development using UE5 than most of these developers.
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Madflavor
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A random shower thought I had the other day. If the entire Western Games Industry disappeared tomorrow, I think the vast majority of gamers would probably be fine. There are undoubtedly some great Western devs that would be missed, but considering how much Asia has been killing it lately, the rise of Chinese/Korean AAA games, and the variety of genres we get from them, I think most gamers would still find plenty of games to play. When you look at Marvel Rivals, it's gotten to the point where Asia are making better games for Western IPs than actual Westerners are.
Kinda feels like Western Game Studios need us, but we don't need them.
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digital_ghost
Member
Woke doesn't sell. Who knew. Apparently investors and executives don't know .
IAmRei
Member
according to some, some investors are moving to asia
digital_ghost
Member
They would be smart to. Asia largely makes better games than the west.
Madflavor
Member
Where'd you hear this? I'm just interested in knowing more about this if it's true.
Kotaro
Member
I think Marvel Rivals is going to be the model for future games, where Western companies sub-contracting Asian developers to develop their IP.
Western devs are so infected with toxic wokes, it's impossible to develop any game without left-wing socio-political messages. We're not just talking about DEI consultants like Sweet Baby, but the game directors, artists, developers, etc are all infected with toxic woke virus
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IAmRei
Member
In TGS there is praying room, and after one month, some dev said they got invested soon after. Source : i was one that they scouted in 2023, but my studio are too small :')
IAmRei
Member
Yeah, i'm aware with that, they are also keep moving in terms of sales. Some fails, but yeah, for each one that success, got massive or at least intermediate success and significantly affect others in region. adds more chance for the region to be invested.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
No way this is true. We would totallyiss western made games if they went away for 10 years.
Danjin44
The nicest person on this forum
I don’t know about everyone else but I will be more than fine. I’m buying less and less western games with each year.
Madflavor
Member
Western games that have already been made would still exist, and you can continue to play them. But I’m talking if all Western Developers disappeared. We would still have Nintendo, Capcom, FromSoftware, Sega, Atlus, and Bandai Namco to name a few of the big Japanese ones. Then we have Korea and China that are growing in the AAA scene.
I think there would be an initial shock period, and gamers would miss some Western studios, but ultimately I feel like for the majority of gamers, their hobby wouldn’t die. There would still be a huge swath of different games and genres for gamers to enjoy. And this is a stupid and wild scenario birthed from eight straight hours of me drinking tonight. But I get sick of some many Western devs having this Anti-Gamer attitude these days.
They need us, but we don’t need them. I think that’s the point I’m ultimately trying to make.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
I feel ya. The drinking will do that to you. We still need GTA 6 though lol
ZVWQP-9B8TM-VH9CT
Member
all those money to pay those mentally challenged fat blue-haired lesbians with chin hair
PeteBull
Member
Yup, back in the early to mid 90s easily 80% of quality games came from japan, if not even 90%, there were few humble exceptions ofc but majority was japanese, and we enjoyed it tons.
Nowadays its only western AAA(not all but majority) starts to suck more and more, so 0 worries, their games will bomb, their studios will close but we, gamers got hundreds if not tousands of amazing games in our backlogs.
On top amazing AA western games are made, AAA from eastern europe too, and ofc we got whole Asian games market on top.
TLDR: We, gamers will be fine even if only 10% of games from western devs has high quality, we got plenty to chose from for next 10-15years at least
Saber
Member
Me too. Not only western but Sony specific games as well(used to buy them but that was long ago). I just get everything I want from east games, theres no wrong buying their games.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
ArtHands
Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
Even if they do wrong, I am sure the game media and the majority of Playstation fans will deem it right
MayauMiao
Member
Concord proved that Playstation fans can be critical of Sony. TLoU II got lucky because of the goodwill from TLoU.
Intergalactic is a wildcard at the moment no thanks to its first reveal.
Complistic
Member
Amazing we still don't have any sales on this game. Will we get some at a shareholders call or anything?
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