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Dragon Age Veilguard, Non Binary character

StueyDuck

Member
Its like the science in God. You have to believe!
i am genuinely curious though, i don't keep up with the latest biological papers and studies, if something happened lately that proves non-binary people have X chemical make up and binary people have Y that would be an interesting read.
 

DeaDPo0L84

Member
They need to realise that pushing so hard that DEI bullshit, in every fucking medium makes most people more intolerant than they were before.
Steve Bannon Bingo GIF
 

Danjin44

The nicest person on this forum
But some people here said it wasn't woke and we just called everything we didn't like "woke" 😯 What is this screenshot then?
You also see some posts that go too far calling everything “woke” like calling new Zelda game “woke” just because you play as Zelda.
 

Rentahamster

Rodent Whores
well what is a non-binary chemical makeup? What are the markers?
Like I said, I don't know.

Can doctors test for non-binary?
Yes, with tests like a behavioral health evaluation, for example.

I would like to see the science behind a non-binary person.
Well, the fact that they exist at all is a rather large bit of scientific, empirical evidence, don't you think? Or is the science you are looking for an answer to the question of why or how they exist?
 

Alebrije

Gold Member
Vitiligo was responsible for many human genocides in herstory.
Problem is games just uses a cause to tell a Bad story , FF16 used slavery but was just part of a lame story...that es why I like more games like Elde Ring or Even FF rebirt. They don't mix fantasy with real world topics.
 

Fabieter

Member
i am genuinely curious though, i don't keep up with the latest biological papers and studies, if something happened lately that proves non-binary people have X chemical make up and binary people have Y that would be an interesting read.

I actually think this is partly the result of social engineering. That’s probably the only “science” you’ll find in it!
 

Oberstein

Member
Just a few years ago, this inappropriate display would have been declared "attention whore".
This constant preoccupation with placarding the LGBT cause, pronouns and the whole syndrome of a sick society everywhere, under the umbrella of the right to representation, when they're actually forcing it on the majority, is becoming tiresome.
 
so who is doing the discrimination? who is holding down these groups? there is still an insinuation...

Instead of people just having an opinion you don't agree with, which is what i see happening
People discriminating are doing the discriminating. It's not as hard as you make it seem. They're free to have their opinion as am I.
 

StueyDuck

Member
Like I said, I don't know.


Yes, with tests like a behavioral health evaluation, for example.


Well, the fact that they exist at all is a rather large bit of scientific, empirical evidence, don't you think? Or is the science you are looking for an answer to the question of why or how they exist?
but they don't exist you are talking behavioral evaluation and not the physical chemical makeup like you originally said.

either its a tangible thing with evidence or it isn't. Until then it's just a theory.
 

StueyDuck

Member
People discriminating are doing the discriminating. It's not as hard as you make it seem. They're free to have their opinion as am I.
and who are these discriminators doing the discriminating? we know they aren't women, black , gay or non-binary?

So it's gotta be someone right? who?
 

Topher

Identifies as young
I'd like to know if the trans/pronouns dialog stuff is based on your character creation or is in your face whether you like it or not.
 
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If the game was awesome and well written and stuff like made sense in its own universe then im onboard, whatever. But from what ive seen so far its just crammed in there and rammed down your throat in a very poor manner.

You can make a well written game with LGBT themes. Larian proved that. Every dev needs to look at them before they try and flex their shitty writing skills
 

Rentahamster

Rodent Whores
but they don't exist

They do exist. There are many people who identify themselves with the term "non-binary". That will be a true thing whether or not you think that they should or shouldn't do that. I'm acknowledging the "is" not the "ought".

you are talking behavioral evaluation and not the physical chemical makeup like you originally said.
Behavior is informed by brain chemistry. Do you agree or not agree?

either its a tangible thing with evidence or it isn't. Until then it's just a theory.
I'm pretty sure you can touch non-binary people. I've done it before.
 

artsi

Member
One more reminder why I don't touch western AAA games anymore.

Not the non-binary characters, but the way their existence is written in these games.
DEI is just a checkbox that needs to be checked even if it doesn't serve the narrative.

Japanese and other Asian games rock.
 
You also see some posts that go too far calling everything “woke” like calling new Zelda game “woke” just because you play as Zelda.

That's the problem is people super invested in this stuff always take it to far. They were calling the guy who made Tales of Kenzera: Zau all kinds of racist stuff because his studio didn't do well enough to continue.
 

StueyDuck

Member
They do exist. There are many people who identify themselves with the term "non-binary". That will be a true thing whether or not you think that they should or shouldn't do that. I'm acknowledging the "is" not the "ought".


Behavior is informed by brain chemistry. Do you agree or not agree?


I'm pretty sure you can touch non-binary people. I've done it before.
I was talking about these chemical markers don't exist.

I am still waiting for what the biological composition of a non-binary person is though?

you say there's brain chemistry so whats the data? do non-binary people have more neurons firing off. what is the chemistry?
 

Rentahamster

Rodent Whores
Please educate yourself. This is obviously not fact, it is a theory. Is disputed by many scientists. You're just spouting pretty old, reductionist materialism.
Where else does consciousness come from, if not the brain?

All tests done so far establish this link very substantially. If we alter the brain, we most likely alter the conscious experience of that person that brain belongs to.
 

Rentahamster

Rodent Whores
I was talking about these chemical markers don't exist.

I am still waiting for what the biological composition of a non-binary person is though?

you say there's brain chemistry so whats the data? do non-binary people have more neurons firing off. what is the chemistry?

This would be a lot easier if you answer the questions that I ask of you first, before you start asking your own.
 

StueyDuck

Member
This would be a lot easier if you answer the questions that I ask of you first, before you start asking your own.
well in order for me to agree that a non-binary person exists i'd need to see the data...

I could tell you that Unicorns exist but if we don't have any actual physical evidence of unicorns then they most likely don't exist?

Or do they?
 

Rentahamster

Rodent Whores
well in order for me to agree that a non-binary person exists i'd need to see the data...
Do you go outside? lol

I could tell you that Unicorns exist but if we don't have any actual physical evidence of unicorns then they most likely don't exist?

Or do they?
I've never seen a unicorn in person. Only in books or TV or movies. There isn't any scientific research that establishes unicorns as a thing in real life.

I've seen non-binary people in person. I have a few that are friends. I probably know a lot more than I realize just because I don't really care what people identify as, so that's not really a thing I talk about in person.

I've seen non-binary people in books, TV, and movies.

There's lots of scientific research that establishes non-binary as a thing in real life.
 

Larxia

Member
You also see some posts that go too far calling everything “woke” like calling new Zelda game “woke” just because you play as Zelda.
There are indeed extremes on both side, and both are stupids.
Veilguard is however clearly leaning on one of these sides itself already, and claiming it isn't, like some people here did, is just denying the obvious.

Also as far as I'm concerned I always make female characters when I have the choice because it's prettier :messenger_grinning_sweat:
 

RoboFu

One of the green rats
well in order for me to agree that a non-binary person exists i'd need to see the data...

I could tell you that Unicorns exist but if we don't have any actual physical evidence of unicorns then they most likely don't exist?

Or do they?

Eels with lightning magic exist .. 😱
 

Kagoshima_Luke

Gold Member
What do you mean - this isn't a normal conversation for a fantasy game?

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Their current magisterial province do not allow for abortions, and they complain that they had to sneak into the adjacent magisterial province to get the procedure done. This is all because of a ruling set forth by the Council of Elders, who are an evil group put in place by a Blight-corrupted dictator.
 
Do you go outside? lol


I've never seen a unicorn in person. Only in books or TV or movies. There isn't any scientific research that establishes unicorns as a thing in real life.

I've seen non-binary people in person. I have a few that are friends. I probably know a lot more than I realize just because I don't really care what people identify as, so that's not really a thing I talk about in person.

I've seen non-binary people in books, TV, and movies.

There's lots of scientific research that establishes non-binary as a thing in real life.
Just like the game in question, nobody is buying your bullshit and attempts to propagate disillusioned fantasy and reality. Get lost!
 
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