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Dragon Ball Super |OT8| There is no justice or evil, only survival or erasure.

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Flowmoney

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So where is that (possible major android spoilers in super) probably from heroes but just in-case
Android 17 and 18 in their tounament of power duds doing the fusion dance image coming from?

You were anticipating the best fusion there could be , think about all the fanart.
 

Tsunamo

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You were anticipating the best fusion there could be , think about all the fanart.
Not to worry. Heroes has still got us covered.
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Just_one

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Skipped all the comentaries so far , im only on ep. 90 when Goku recruits Tenshin and Master Roshi and even if the start was not so good (beerus and freeza) , once the future trunks arc started it feels like dragon ball again.

The quality of the drawing improved a lot also since the beginning.

really enjoying DBS so far. Beerus , Whis and all the universes was something very well included in the series!

looking forward to the tournment even if master roshi makes no sense to me...
 
Skipped all the comentaries so far , im only on ep. 90 when Goku recruits Tenshin and Master Roshi and even if the start was not so good (beerus and freeza) , once the future trunks arc started it feels like dragon ball again.

The quality of the drawing improved a lot also since the beginning.

really enjoying DBS so far. Beerus , Whis and all the universes was something very well included in the series!

looking forward to the tournment even if master roshi makes no sense to me...

Prepare to eat those words. :p
 
Skipped all the comentaries so far , im only on ep. 90 when Goku recruits Tenshin and Master Roshi and even if the start was not so good (beerus and freeza) , once the future trunks arc started it feels like dragon ball again.

The quality of the drawing improved a lot also since the beginning.

really enjoying DBS so far. Beerus , Whis and all the universes was something very well included in the series!

looking forward to the tournment even if master roshi makes no sense to me...

Kekeke.
 

Zomba13

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Skipped all the comentaries so far , im only on ep. 90 when Goku recruits Tenshin and Master Roshi and even if the start was not so good (beerus and freeza) , once the future trunks arc started it feels like dragon ball again.

The quality of the drawing improved a lot also since the beginning.

really enjoying DBS so far. Beerus , Whis and all the universes was something very well included in the series!

looking forward to the tournment even if master roshi makes no sense to me...

I was like you once.
 

Skii

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Dokkan Battle has Super content. They just added a story mission featuring the tournament recruitment.

Guaranteed we get a big dokkanfest the day of the one hour special. We had Vegito Blue and Rose feature very soon after their debuts on Super.
 

Laiza

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Reposting for new page: https://youtu.be/uPwVuC3YOrc
Everyone should watch that video and think about what they've typed on the internet.
It sure got me thinking.

Though, come to think of it, it has been awhile since I've earnestly participated in any power-level discussions. This one's a bit of an odd duck for me in particular because I used to be really into the whole power level thing, but in retrospect it truly is a terrible mechanic that heavily limits the ways fights can play out and the directions the story can move in.

Hell, it's pretty much killed any enthusiasm I might have had for the final showdown in the ToP, because I already know pretty much exactly how it'll play out... because Dragon Ball hasn't really done anything to shake up the formula in a long, long while. It's sad.

I'm really just watching out of loyalty at this point.
 

Skeeter49

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I hope the opposite happens, so that 17 can... er... get 2% stronger and get sick abilities like



and





Never mind.
He could learn the Destructo Disc and that tennis tag team attack.
It's not my fault the Buu arc shat on 18 by making her weaker/ giving her nothing new.
Her versus Goten and Trunks still haunts me.
 

Slaythe

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He could learn the Destructo Disc and that tennis tag team attack.
It's not my fault the Buu arc shat on 18 by making her weaker/ giving her nothing new.
Her versus Goten and Trunks still haunts me.

Her vs Goten and Trunks is actually barely two pages long in the manga lmao.

I think 17 might pull out double energy swords, he seemed to like what Caserhal did.

He used Kakunsa's "spiderman" style against her already :D .

I've always thought he would be great as a copy cat type so that was quite the coincidence they went that route with him !
 

Laiza

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Does turning super saiya adds to his power or multiplies it.
This one hurts me the most.

People taking the multiplier bullshit so damn seriously that they're constantly trying to figure out if there's still a multiplier, what their base power level is, blah-blah-blah you know the drill...

Like, even a cursory examination of the mechanic reveals just how utterly bullshit it really is. Fifty times, really? And then you get into SS2 and people are throwing around x100 multipliers with no irony and I'm just like... come on!

Come on!
 
This one hurts me the most.

People taking the multiplier bullshit so damn seriously that they're constantly trying to figure out if there's still a multiplier, what their base power level is, blah-blah-blah you know the drill...

Like, even a cursory examination of the mechanic reveals just how utterly bullshit it really is. Fifty times, really? And then you get into SS2 and people are throwing around x100 multipliers with no irony and I'm just like... come on!

Come on!

the multipliers are real though
 

Laiza

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the multipliers are real though
You mean the multiplier is real. The one during the Freeza saga is the only one that exists (for SS that is - KK is obviously another matter). Everything after that point has no official numbers and frankly - I prefer it that way.

Everything just falls apart once you start getting into the base form madness that exists in Super. Especially stuff like Copy Vegeta vs SS3 Gotenks and base form Goku vs Beerus in a suit. If multipliers are still canon at this point (and I'm fully convinced that Toriyama puts far less thought into this stuff than the fan base does), well, shit gets pretty stupid really damn fast.

I still don't know how to make sense of Hit vs SSBKKx10 Goku.
 

foxuzamaki

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I love plague but he didn't pick up on the theming toriyama was going for when he introduced raditz and actually introduced power levels, raditz was still winning because he had s bigger number but goku and piccolo still had to outsmart him, and it lead to an arc of saiyans and friezas men are strong but don't know how to do anything else with the power, and after goku defeats frieza, toriyama basically dropped power levels almost entirely, its mostly the fans who kept it in the spotlight
 

HardRojo

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They went with "That thing you're holding isn't my hand" in the Latam dub lol. I knew they'd avoid saying penis or something like that. Clever workaround.
And Zeno is clearly being pronounced and called Zen-Ou sama, to avoid making it sound like seno (female human breast).
 

Ogodei

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My view on power levels is that KaioKen is linear while the transformations (including fusion) are exponential. So Goku's not boosting his power *that* much by Kaioken compared to any transformation he can come up with.

So Super Saiyan 2 obviously isn't 2x Super Saiyan 1. It's also not Super Saiyan 1 squared, but it's exponent based. So Ascended Saiyan, Android 17 and 18, and both forms of pre-perfect Cell are somewhere on that line. Multiple times stronger than SSJ1, but multiple times weaker than SSJ2.

I'm really not a fan of the "base form" power changes, though. In my headcanon base Goku is still roughly stronger than Assault Form Frieza but weaker than Final Frieza. That's the only way any of this makes sense.

I also ignore the "you absorbed some of the power of SSJGod" line.
 
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