Fulminator
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Kale did take out Vuon
I think Jiren is willing to take out fighters that annoy him, such as Kale an Maji Kayo
He was about to take out Ribrianne too but Vegeta fired a blast at her first
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Dragon Ball Super |OT9| Genki-Drama
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I think Jiren is willing to take out fighters that annoy him, such as Kale an Maji Kayo
He was about to take out Ribrianne too but Vegeta fired a blast at her first
Wheeljack539
Member
Storywise could it be that she's running out of steam?
BlazinSkatinAxel
Member
Ribriannie lost her wings too.
TMaakkonen
Member
It just looks like Champas personality is different from back then. Even U10 GoD Rumshi was very angry until the final eliminations.
No, that's not the same logic at all.
First of all, Maji Kayo was going after Jiren and not the other way around. He said so himself.
In the case of Kale, it was Jiren who directly went after her.
Second, Jiren was not needed to take out Maji Kayo as far as we know.
He did overpower Dyspo, but the moment he set him free both Dyspo and Toppo were ready to go after him.
The logical explanation as to why Jiren would bother to go after him is he was
1. Right next to him
2. Maji Kayo went after him
3. They were big on saving energy before, and he saved Dyspo and Toppo from a fight when he knew he could blow him away with one blow just like he did
In the case of Kale, after she took out Vuon and we see her screaming shake the arean and create a dent where she was standing, we see a shot of the entire cast of the Pride Troopers, Toppo says 'Even her voice alone is this powerful' and no one was going to do anything. Only then Jiren jumps and says 'I'll take this'
Icyflamez96
Member
I thought Ribrianne was fine at first but now she seems so forced in a weird way.
Solid Sora
Member
Ah, right. Totally forgot about Charmander.
Icyflamez96
Member
Champa always was weirdly caring/nice sometimes.
For this it just seems like he's not as caught up in his bitter rivalry vs Beerus at the moment, and Hit was actually giving it his all and not so obviously throwing a match.
They should have used a firestone during the tournament.
Zeno would have found it cool and allowed it.
It's pretty obvious whats gonna happen.
Throughout the series, we've seen Piccolo protect Gohan. He saved him from Nappa, Broly, Freiza, etc. A few episodes ago we saw Piccolo lose his arm saving Gohan.
We'll get a scene where Piccolo is on the ropes, about to be finished, but Gohan jumps in the way protected Piccolo.
Piccolo remembers all those great times the two had, see's his son injured, and gets angry. Allowing him the power to ascend to Super Namekian God Mode
or something.
Pls just give Piccolo something
Fulminator
Member
Maji Kayo didn't go after him though, he attacked dyspo, dyspo escaped, Jiren stepped up after he told Toppo to move, dyspo escaped, and Maji Kayo was like "oh well,you were my target anyways"
He never attacked Jiren,even though Jiren was his goal, they squared off because Jiren wanted to.
Same with Kale. We don't know if Toppo would have stepped up because Jiren did.
I think Jiren was just annoyed by both of them
Epsilon-delta
Banned
Muffin1611
Banned
How would any of them get through Jirens wall of ki? Kale maybe, but I don't think she had the energy for a transformation.
Now, breaking up the edge of the arena under Jiren would have been a good idea.
Shamrock7r
Member
I mean, that's the Dragonball series in a nutshell, including Z, lol
MiguelMexMIstery
Member
Leave Ribrianne alone
it still sucks Saiyans fight her in base
Father & Son Lose-An-Arm?
Hit with his super ultra final attack couldn't get through Jiren's glare barrier. What hope do a few newbie saiyans have?
But then we get the ending of the episode where they state you have to be decent enough to go through his wall of energy he's outputting as a shield. And Goku couldn't get jiren to move from his hits until he went God form.
This too.
You don't have to like it. But acknowledge that Jiren is really in a class of his own.
Epsilon-delta
Banned
True, but I feel super is a special case when it comes to the plot.
Yall act like the entire series of Dragon ball outside of Super is some gold standard of good writing.
And that example is like the least egregious in this entire series. There were plenty of times in Z where the heroes decided to do some fuck shit when they could have ended the thread immediately.
Watch that fight again.
The first thing Maji Kayo does is coming to Jiren from the back and trying to punch him, then Dyspo kicks him away.
When Toppo is about to act and Jiren tells him to move, Maji Kayo says 'Here comes the boss at last. I was after you from the start anyways'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4BBqJ7OF5Y
Icyflamez96
Member
There's usually a reason at least.
A shit reason. Much like the reason gave Hit to the rest of his squad.
LordOfChaos
Member
Caulifa: Shouldn't we help him?
Cabba: Can't you see he has to fight this battle on his own? He's fighting for the honor of his fallen comrade!
Hit: Help me! For the love of god, help me!
Cabba: Like a hero
Cabba: Can't you see he has to fight this battle on his own? He's fighting for the honor of his fallen comrade!
Hit: Help me! For the love of god, help me!
Cabba: Like a hero
Undead Fantasy
Member
Icyflamez96
Member
What was the reason Hit gave?
If we are talking about Cell Saga like shenanigans, I dont agree that most of that stuff is actually bad writing. As long as thier bad choices are justified within their characters and motives, it's fine.
Like that stuff posted below my comment.
"Guys we have three years to find and kill Dr. Gero before he activates the androids and save the future, let's do it"
"Nah, training"
"Yo Trunks your dad will let Cell transform, you can kill him DO IT!"
"Nah, Daddy's ego is more important"
"Yo Cell, have a Senzu"
The best writing.
Muffin1611
Banned
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Literally in the same episode the thing with the Ki wall was stated again, so I don't see why so many are making a fuss about it
Epsilon-delta
Banned
Except their respective universe is on the line, and the chance of knocking out the most powerful guy in the tournament was wasted because...reasons.
I knew going in super was a show where your turn off your brain, and I even mentioned it before, but that was a good example of terrible plot writing imo.
These are the "many" who still think Krillin stood up to full power Super Saiyan Blue
MurkyZebra2417
Member
Is it confirmed the tournament will "end" properly? I still think there will be some kind of disruption/event that ends the tournament and not the time/win condition.
At this point, that would piss me off
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
If they are strong enough to match goku in super saiyan then they are strong enough to penetrate jiren's barrier, that is if he making a even stronger barrier than he normally does
Gohan's learned how to control lost limbs as well.
Get ready for One handed Kamehameha Mark 3.
Phantom Limb Dual Special Beam Cannon as well.
Muffin1611
Banned
There was no chance. Everybody watched the fight between Jiren and Goku and saw that he can defend against people below a certain level with his ki.
Three worn out Saiyans certainly couldn't break through that.
Icyflamez96
Member
Yeah I dont think they could have actually just "pushed him off" anyway.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
Now that last one is just goku being batshit crazy like he normally is
The reason is Cabba's an idiot, and Hit electing him as team captain is the stupidest thing he could have done.
2 worn out saiyans. Cabba's fine.
Icyflamez96
Member
They're all in character. Except for maybe the first one in regards to some of the other characters that aren't the Saiyans
Linkstrikesback
Member
That or Jiren having goku defense less opposite him and just sitting there meditating instead of finishing (maybe) the one person capable of resisting him off
Epsilon-delta
Banned
Hit should've immediately went for the win instead of giving a speech but I guess that is asking for too much lol.
QuiteWhittle
Member
Cabba and Caulifla would probably have "pushed" Jiren as far as SSJ and SSJ2 Goku did last week.
Muffin1611
Banned
Oh, right. But Cabba wouldn't have been strong enough at his full power either.
Yep.
?! I don't remember that. Doesn't Vegeta get in the way? Then Trunks ends up knocking him away, but he's to late to reach Cell by then.