And Cabba should be the host for the sword.
Killing the weakest saiyan in the tournament isn't really an achievement.
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And Cabba should be the host for the sword.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Does kid trunks get it?
If not no
The Silver
Member
I don't know why AT needed Trunks to kill Frieza when he had King Cold, he undercut Frieza's truly epic final battle with Goku and ended up turning Trunks into a goober for the rest of the Cell arc so he hardly even benefitted from that.
m_shortpants
Member
Ultimate Gohan sucks now.
The whole point was that he didn't need to power up or transform or anything. All his latent power was just there.
Now he has to transform to get the bang and even then he doesn't seem extraordinary strong.
Them getting rid of the bang as his base look was a mistake.
The whole point was that he didn't need to power up or transform or anything. All his latent power was just there.
Now he has to transform to get the bang and even then he doesn't seem extraordinary strong.
Them getting rid of the bang as his base look was a mistake.
Chaotic-Strike
Banned
I agree Gohan was clearly better once his arc was complete in the Black Saga and in the End of Z. We got already got Vegeta trying to protect his family anyway they need to stop ruining his character.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
No. I said it was good at the time.
Frieza was a coward with a lot of power and a very big ego. He didn't deserve an epic final battle, getting killed by someone who he didn't even know the name of because he rushed off for revenge is the perfect end for him.
The villain that enjoyed humiliating his foes died in a humiliating way.
Parallax Scroll
Banned
I guess I'll post this here. I took Android 17 vs Kakunsha from back in episode 102 and edited it down to 8 seconds.
Yet, he has proven more interesting and useful than Gohan despite all the building up he got before the tournament.
Chaotic-Strike
Banned
Icyflamez96
Member
The drawbacks of letting the thread know who your favorite character is
MiguelMexMIstery
Member
Now we only need A Pretty Panda's comment
Good point.
Still one of my favorite episodes.I guess I'll post this here. I took Android 17 vs Kakunsha from back in episode 102 and edited it down to 8 seconds.
And? I didn't say anything about Gohan. You're just dragging things up to start unnecessary arguments and it isn't the first time I've seen it either.
I guess I'll post this here. I took Android 17 vs Kakunsha from back in episode 102 and edited it down to 8 seconds.
Pretty cool my dude.
Missing the spinning barrier and double energy shot to be perfect but I guess it'd make this 10 seconds.
Parallax Scroll
Banned
I was shooting for 6 seconds like a vine but at this point I was like what else can I cut
I think they had to make it into a transformation because they know Gohan will have more transformations down the road that will make "Ultimate" irrelevant.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
What would you do if you looked up and saw this. Also you can completely stop time
That isn't the problem. The problem is when you let your bias to your favorite or least favorite to caused a double standard.
You can't say with a straight face that Frieza coming back feels wasteful, yet tried to justify how Gohan done anything to prove he was worth it, especially with all the build up he got.
What has Gohan done in this tournament of 'justify' his inclusion, especially if you're going to claim Frieza's existence isn't? Frieza has more knocks out them him, helped his teammates while Gohan has been glued to Piccolo for almost all his appearance and got his ass kicked he wasn't around Piccolo, Gohan is the 'leader' but hasn't done anything being a leader since 101, and hasn't even brought interesting commentary. So far, Gohan is riding on hype and hope.
I mentioned Gohan since you and others tried to justify his lackluster performance like in Episode 108 by saying stuff 'he figured out Frieza's plan', but also turn around and say that Frieza being around hasn't been justified since he disappeared for several episodes, ignoring that despite that he still done more than most. Why does Frieza continuously needs to be justified when he tends to make an impact every time he's on scene, but this bar isn't used for any other character?
Bobo Dakes
Member
He basically is one by now, so it wouldn't even be a lie.
I guess I'll post this here. I took Android 17 vs Kakunsha from back in episode 102 and edited it down to 8 seconds.
I'm glad this is missing the part where they're rotating static images. I loved that fight but that was a huge flaw to it.
What would you do if you looked up and saw this. Also you can completely stop time
I'd get behind him & try to spin him more. I want to see how fast he can go.
The Silver
Member
you say that like he wasn't humiliated on Namek, there's a reason all his ire is mostly focused on Goku and not for the one who actually killed him the first time.
Goku did not just beat Frieza at his height, he looked down on him to the point he wasn't even worth killing, he was begging like a dog after his own attack backfired and Goku went as far as to give him energy. Frieza was so throroughly humiliated and beaten by this man that he launched what he had to know was a suicide attack. Frieza felt in his soul that this damn monkey was the better man and Goku rubbed it in, he made Frieza feel helpless, he made him feel small.
With Trunks it was over before Frieza could even process what the fuck happened, Frieza had already tasted the ultimate humiliation by that point so there was no catharthic release, it was just to make Trunks look cool, and Trunks ending up being a goober. The purpose of that whole thing could've been served just as well with only King Cold and you don't need to drag Frieza's ass back.
that's it man, you can't do worse to Frieza than this
you say that like he wasn't humiliated on Namek, there's a reason all his ire is mostly focused on Goku and not for the one who actually killed him the first time.
Goku did not just beat Frieza at his height, he looked down on him to the point he wasn't even worth killing, he was begging like a dog after his own attack backfired and Goku went as far as to give him energy. Frieza was so throroughly humiliated and beaten by this man that he launched what he had to know was a suicide attack. Frieza felt in his soul that this damn monkey was the better man and Goku rubbed it in.
With Trunks it was over before Frieza could even process what the fuck happened, Frieza had already tasted the ultimate humiliation by that point so there was no catharthic release, it was just to make Trunks look cool, and Trunks ending up being a goober. The purpose of that whole thing could've been served just as well with only King Cold and you don't need to drag Frieza's ass back.
that's it man, you can't do worse to Frieza than this
Thank you.
For some reason people tend to forget or gloss over this. Frieza was utterly destroyed by the end of his arc and had the most humiliating fall from grace in the franchise.
Parallax Scroll
Banned
May as well post the ones I've made from the latest episode as well.
Sure, Goku humiliates Frieza at the end of their fight, I'm not glossing over that.
But I think the fact that he ultimately doesn't die on Namik, is truly given the second chance Goku offered him(hell, it's a third chance), and doesn't accept it for a second while he rushes off for revenge only to learn that there is someone other than Goku who completely surpasses him as he dies is a more satisfying conclusion to his story. (And yeah, he supposedly knew about Beerus and Buu, but those detail didn't exist at the time, and not relevant to how Frieza was presented as the strongest in the universe during Namik)
This way Goku's act of pity is left intact, and Frieza gets more salt thrown in the wound while further cementing that he is not someone that will change his ways like Piccolo and Vegeta were at the time. I like how that turned out more than if he just died with Namik.
But I think the fact that he ultimately doesn't die on Namik, is truly given the second chance Goku offered him(hell, it's a third chance), and doesn't accept it for a second while he rushes off for revenge only to learn that there is someone other than Goku who completely surpasses him as he dies is a more satisfying conclusion to his story. (And yeah, he supposedly knew about Beerus and Buu, but those detail didn't exist at the time, and not relevant to how Frieza was presented as the strongest in the universe during Namik)
This way Goku's act of pity is left intact, and Frieza gets more salt thrown in the wound while further cementing that he is not someone that will change his ways like Piccolo and Vegeta were at the time. I like how that turned out more than if he just died with Namik.
Chaotic-Strike
Banned
I think they showcased that enough when he shot Goku in the back after giving his energy to him.
Everything after that is just redundant.
Everything after that is just redundant.
There'd be no tension if they did.
TheRealTalker
Banned
this episode was drawn like a comic book
how the characters looked proportion wise
I liked it... made the pride troopers look more iconic
how the characters looked proportion wise
I liked it... made the pride troopers look more iconic
He would have been the Doctor Rota of Universe 7.
"Let me show you why I, Monaka, have great big nipples!"
That sounded dirtier than I thought it would.
Icyflamez96
Member
monaka would smash jiren
Chaotic-Strike
Banned
But could he beat Mr. Satan?
The DBS Motto: "I like it now!"
I think a lot of it boils down to the jump in quality we have seen in the fight cheographies. During the U6 tournament arc, I thought Hit's shenanigans just looked silly. They've been much better at doing it justice in these past few episodes, particularly his stand-off against Dyspo. Jiren I can't explain, I figure he just grew on me when he trashed Goku like a basic bitch.
Fulminator
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Chaotic-Strike
Banned
You would think someone with Zeno in their avatar would appreciate the superior color of taste.
Undead Fantasy
Member
Light theme is best
Yea, this arc in general has been much needed in terms of quality. Not always the best it can be, but a major step-up nonetheless.
Yea, this arc in general has been much needed in terms of quality. Not always the best it can be, but a major step-up nonetheless.
Fulminator
Member
They also unfused the only permanently fused character in Super.
The Silver
Member
Oh Zamasu these dirty ningen have sinned, please show them the error of their ways.
Chaotic-Strike
Banned
I can see why Zamasu would like the edgy try-hard Black theme.