The most incredible thing they achieved this arc is making me feel slight sympathy towards Frieza.
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Dragon Ball Super |OT9| Genki-Drama
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I do love how this new form gives Goku a new goal to achieve. It'll be exciting watching him evolve after this tournament.
I noticed Freeza perked up noticing how the gods reacted to Gokus new movement mastery too. He's probably thinking that if he obtains something like that he can manipulate or overthrow them.
I noticed Freeza perked up noticing how the gods reacted to Gokus new movement mastery too. He's probably thinking that if he obtains something like that he can manipulate or overthrow them.
100 PUSH-UPS, 100 SIT-UPS, 100 SQUATS, 10 KM RUNNING! EVERY SINGLE DAY!
He was Saitama all along
That would be so poetic. To have Freeza give Goku some of his energy.
I am placing all my hopes in Frieza to salvage episode 112.
I don't think Goku wants that though.
A form he can't really control that moves on its own ? That might be powerful but it sounds like something he'd avoid. He'll try to be even more powerful without this I think.
But he already has 'surpassing Jiren' as goal.
I don't think Goku wants that though.
A form he can't really control that moves on its own ? That might be powerful but it sounds like something he'd avoid. He'll try to be even more powerful without this I think.
But he already has 'surpassing Jiren' as goal.
Lifejumper
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Goku new form seems like end game territory for Super. Maybe it really is finishing soon?
ManDudeChild
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Looks like
Hit will weaken Jiren quite a bit from the NEP. I can only assume Goku comes back with the form and either its a double OK or finishes the job.
At 4:34 of episode 110 we actually get our first in-tounament shot of the Universe 6 Namekians.
Toyable implied it's going up to at least End of Z, so I think we've still got a bit to go.
Yeah I think he'll opt for something different, or to obtain movement mastery without a new form so that he can control it himself. It'll just be interesting to see where he goes now that it's been put on the table.
Nothing would have changed besides maybe lasting a little longer.
They said the spirit bomb would have beaten Jiren already.
But he was able to return it against Goku, that had nothing to do with the power of the bomb itself. So Beerus' power wouldn't have helped at all.
like SSJ, SSJ2, God, Blue.... lol
Huw_Dawson
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Yeah - the significance of this moment is to show that a mortal can 100% ascend to the level of the GoDs. Which is, when you get down to it, the end of the current power meta.
Goku has a way, in theory, to fight (and possibly beat) Beerus now. Provided he can do that form again. We've been waiting for this inevitable power shift since the BotG movie.
This gigantic 'Gods' super-arc has to come to a close at some point. I think we're getting close to the finale of it, maybe the arc after this one is when this series gets wrapped up in a bow? Or Toei decide to keep the train going forever.
The Silver
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The Rat was way too chill, he must really think his bugs fighters can go the distance somehow.
But when blue was first revealed it was described as a transformation equivalent to a super saiyan transformation above god. Hence Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan.
Seasoned Badger
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This transformation would have been great if they didn't already used the idea of absorbing the spirit bomb in Super Andriod 13 and Goku black arc.
I just realized Goku's new form completely destroys the only unique thing about Gohan, base form with special aura. It's almost sad but now Gohan can go home and be a family man for reals.
I just realized Goku's new form completely destroys the only unique thing about Gohan, base form with special aura. It's almost sad but now Gohan can go home and be a family man for reals.
Baleoce
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Despite peoples qualms with having Frieza come back for this, so far he's been fun to watch. I love his reactions to big events, and you can see that although he's just as surprised as everyone else, he doesn't consider those things above him. Infact kind of like Goku he sees it as a new perspective to reach greater heights.
I never liked the whole lean design aspect of Super, when comparing the same characters in Z. But with regards to Jiren, he could definitely benefit from not being roided out so much. It just looks odd lol.
I never liked the whole lean design aspect of Super, when comparing the same characters in Z. But with regards to Jiren, he could definitely benefit from not being roided out so much. It just looks odd lol.
Huw_Dawson
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The lyrics threw me into flashbacks of watching 2006 YouTube anime music videos. I am not sure if that was what the creative team was going for.
Those episodes were great
I'm glad that he still struggled with Jiren after getting his new form too, it didn't make him OP or anything. But I got the impression from what Whis said about it being a temporary form that perhaps Goku was actually weaker in that form because he was running solely on Spirit Bomb energy and not his own Ki. I think his next permanent form will be him reaching that same state but using his own Ki instead so he's even stronger.
Either way, it was fun to watch Goku get beat up for 40 minutes.
despite the usual art inconsistencies that Super still struggles with.
I'm glad that he still struggled with Jiren after getting his new form too, it didn't make him OP or anything. But I got the impression from what Whis said about it being a temporary form that perhaps Goku was actually weaker in that form because he was running solely on Spirit Bomb energy and not his own Ki. I think his next permanent form will be him reaching that same state but using his own Ki instead so he's even stronger.
Either way, it was fun to watch Goku get beat up for 40 minutes.
ManDudeChild
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While I agree that Jiren is a bit roided out, you have to remember that each universe seems to have a parody angle. Universe 11 is obviously a variation of Justice League and Jiren is, for all intents and purposes, Superman. Look at 11's GoD resembling The Joker, his attendant, Harley, the Kai has a scheme similar to Robin, and Toppo originally was in a black cloak (Batmant). If Dypso is The Flash... well you get the idea.
TeamLeftMatch
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These episodes were pretty great, not a fan of the new form though. The fighting between Goku and Jiren was awesome to see and seeing the Spirit Bomb again is always great to see.
Hit better not fucking job next episode.
ManDudeChild
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He wont. The NEP shows him doing better than Goku did for the bulk of the fight imo.
They're totally going to bring back Hit's bullshit
bullsHit?
"You're beating me! but now I've improved 0.1% so I can stand up to you again."
Baleoce
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You make a very good point there.
On a side note. I hope they find a way to evolve Hits powers without just constantly increasing his time skip.
TeamLeftMatch
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Hit defiantly shows that he can hold up pretty well (With the power of
Za Wardo
Blackquill
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it was ok
DigitalRicket
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Just got to sit down and watch it since I was sleeping while it aired and while I feel the fight could've been a bit longer I certainly was satisfied overall. The hype was real and the build up worth it. They added a mystique to the form, sort of like how Super Saiyan 1 had back in the day, only this time around it's everyone who doesn't know exactly what's happening.
Plus, this episode produced some amazing gifs!
Now to see if Goku can get that form back, there which I hope we get a bit more fighting and change ups in his style like we saw in this episode.
Also, seeing Freeza give up energy to Goku for the spirit bomb had me laughing.
Plus, this episode produced some amazing gifs!
Now to see if Goku can get that form back, there which I hope we get a bit more fighting and change ups in his style like we saw in this episode.
Also, seeing Freeza give up energy to Goku for the spirit bomb had me laughing.
sleverfunk
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Yooooo. finally got to watch it. Shit is fucking hype.
I'm glad the new form is not just another ssj transformation.
Jiren still stronk as fuck even at the end.
I'm glad the new form is not just another ssj transformation.
Jiren still stronk as fuck even at the end.
The first one looks fucking awful, typical Tate shit.Just got to sit down and watch it since I was sleeping while it aired and while I feel the fight could've been a bit longer I certainly was satisfied overall. The hype was real and the build up worth it. They added a mystique to the form, sort of like how Super Saiyan 1 had back in the day, only this time around it's everyone who doesn't know exactly what's happening.
Plus, this episode produced some amazing gifs!
Now to see if Goku can get that form back, there which I hope we get a bit more fighting and change ups in his style like we saw in this episode.
Also, seeing Freeza give up energy to Goku for the spirit bomb had me laughing.
The second one looks fucking amazing.
Gohan will get a new form.
Much better than deciding to use the theme from the OP *ahem*
I love this so much. And the music was incredible.
TeamLeftMatch
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No he wont. He's back for the tourney once its finished hes back to the usual non-fighter shit.
Link_enfant
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I haven't watched the TV Special yet so I'm avoiding spoilers as much as I can, but it looks like it's actually 42min long and not 1 hour. Am I right?
Very happy they went the extra step of using a new insert song.
sleverfunk
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Do you guys think vegeta has something on his sleeve? He doesnt seem surprised of what occured.
also damn beerus got emotional when he thought Goku died.
also damn beerus got emotional when he thought Goku died.
I think it's more that he's used to this shit from Goku at this point, so now he just goes straight to the questions.
Well of course he did he thought he was about to be erased.
It was always gonna be the runtime of two episodes stapled together lol.
That was hype! The only thing bothering me, and this seems to be a problem with super in general, is that the actual fighting does not get much stream time, many interruptions through talking. I first noticed this last year with Vegito vs zamasu, the actual fighting was maybe a minute and a half of animation, the rest was talk. The actual fighting of Jiren vs Newform Goku was also kind of short. But still satisfying!
Does anyone know the song that is played during the fight?
Not a fan of the new ED, the song is good but the visual..I don't know, bland?
And I loved Freeza giving the energy, his addition really turned out great this far.
Does anyone know the song that is played during the fight?
Not a fan of the new ED, the song is good but the visual..I don't know, bland?
And I loved Freeza giving the energy, his addition really turned out great this far.
1 hour with OP, ED, previews and commercials.