RocknRola
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Dragon Ball Super |OT9| Genki-Drama
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"But mmmmooooooooooooommmmm!!! I'm not done yet!"
Gotdatmoney
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Vegeta not giving his energy was weird because unless I'm mistaken there is 25 mins left in the tournament and U7 is obviously going to have more fights. So it's not like they crippled their usefulness here.
Astral Dog
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Golden Frieza was a mistakeMy bet for the new warrior is a Jiren's new form, something like Frieza "big monster to small monster":
Soapbox Killer
Grand Nagus
Its been a while since an anime has made me say "oh snap"
That just happened!
That just happened!
"Oh that pink girl is staring, is that your girlfriend, did jiji made a girlfriend"
The Silver
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Omega Kirby
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So wait this isnt gokus new form? I keep hearing that goku has yet to reach it?
Gotdatmoney
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Anyway. Given what we have watched I dont know how they are suppose to beat Jiren. I feel like they made the dude a level of strength so insane that now to beat him the level of ass pull is going to have to be next level. Maybe U7 loses but I pretty much doubt it so it'll be interesting.
Given we see Hit fighting Jiren and losing but not as badly as I would expect I almost wonder if Jiren is like a battery and his energy drops the more he fights. So it was ridiculously high in the start but fighting Goku dropped it to the point where Hit would not be instantly destroyed.
Given we see Hit fighting Jiren and losing but not as badly as I would expect I almost wonder if Jiren is like a battery and his energy drops the more he fights. So it was ridiculously high in the start but fighting Goku dropped it to the point where Hit would not be instantly destroyed.
-Pyromaniac-
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My guess is that Goku will now integrate this ultra instinct form/ability with Blue/kaiko ken somehow and it will be some ridiculous thing that lets him go for the win.
You mean like Frieza
So what's up with everyone who said Goku was just goofing around because he didn't have any visible damage and was trying to say he used a weak Kamehameha judging by the size of it
Jiren actually fought very similarly to Kale/Broly by just taking the punches most of the time and throwing Goku around much like Kale did in ep 100 (he even held him by the head with one hand Kale/Broly style), yet he didn't have a scratch on him before the explosion of the Spirit Bomb
The two times he used Kamehameha were also about the same size as he fired at Kale
Jiren actually fought very similarly to Kale/Broly by just taking the punches most of the time and throwing Goku around much like Kale did in ep 100 (he even held him by the head with one hand Kale/Broly style), yet he didn't have a scratch on him before the explosion of the Spirit Bomb
The two times he used Kamehameha were also about the same size as he fired at Kale
Alec
Member
Frieza to get the Super Dragon Balls and wish for Ultra Instinct? (Might as well just wish to be the strongest in existence.)
Clown using telepathy to communicate with Jiren...the other GoDs saying he couldn't get to that level without special training...is there a power link between Jiren and Clown? Will Hit sever the connection and give than others a chance against him?
Ultra Instinct w/ KKx20?
Clown using telepathy to communicate with Jiren...the other GoDs saying he couldn't get to that level without special training...is there a power link between Jiren and Clown? Will Hit sever the connection and give than others a chance against him?
Ultra Instinct w/ KKx20?
-Pyromaniac-
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they don't have to beat Jiren do they? They just have to wait out the clock no? I forget the rules of the tourney but I thought it was the universe with the most people left when the clock runs out will be the winner.
Goku can fuse with vegeta and be the last man standing vs jiren, then universe 7 wins because that's actually 2 people and not one lol.
I don't mind that he didn't give his energy because, as you said, he did help in his own way. What I did mind was his attitude. It was just one line, but very out of character IMO.
RocknRola
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Even the animators did when they cut short his picture in the ED.
The issue isn't even so much Vegeta not contributing energy - though that certainly flies in the face of his endgame DBZ characterisation and some of his Super moments.
The issue is more with how it's framed. Him saying "Nah, this isn't gonna work" would at least be a refreshing angle. Him basically going "Fuck off Kakarot" again is just tiring.
The issue is more with how it's framed. Him saying "Nah, this isn't gonna work" would at least be a refreshing angle. Him basically going "Fuck off Kakarot" again is just tiring.
The last couple minutes won't load on crunchy roll, but it's pretty obvious there's not going to be any subtrufuge and Goku is going to destroy Jiren, whatever form he takes. He will probably wish back the other universes or some other narrative thread of helping somebody, OR some subversive joke like a pair of panties.
Edit: I'm also sure the Jiren vs Hit fight will be omitted in the manga.
Edit: I'm also sure the Jiren vs Hit fight will be omitted in the manga.
Exactly this.
Astral Dog
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Jiren being stronger than a GoD is a bit silly, i mean what if he suddendly doesn't feel Belmod destroying a planet with countless innocent lives, i know they fight evil but something about them is weird, maybe thats how they are supposed to work together.the higher Universes must be Utopian
Gotdatmoney
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SSJ was always hinted as being the power needed to beat Frieza.
Pretty much after this Hit vs Jiren thing we should have a better idea. Cause Hit is losing as bad as Goku but given what we saw of Jiren it should have been instant.
With Kale?
Best episode in all of DB.
With Vegeta
-Pyromaniac-
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we don't know that Hit can't evolve as well. Maybe this dude has some special super assassin form waiting to be whipped out where he can literally travel through time portals or something. Of course Jiren should still win because all of Hit's....hits wont actually do anything. But it might not be a cake walk or it might be enough to keep Hit in the tourney.
Jiren seems to be a loyal pride Trooper and they are basically led by Belmont so he would be fine with his decision and Belmont loves justice
You mean Kale
Yeah. I'm still thinking he'll be one of the last ones with Goku.The fact that Gohan is amongst the 4 is interesting
The Silver
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Manga Belmod seems to be a lot more sinister, a lot harder to see him as a true justice lover.
Let's not get ahead of ourselves here.
Even during the big fight between Goku and Jiren, Dyspo was doing a supermodel photo shoot.
Think this is a callout to Hugh Hefner and his playboy bunnies. It stands out way too much.
-Pyromaniac-
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Bobo Dakes
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Goku in a way had it coming. He picked a fight with the toughest guy in the tourney, realized he couldn't win and then called on everyone else to help him.
With all the passes I've given Goku this saga, I acknowledge Vegeta being a petty dick without bashing him too hard.
A note on that figure says the image is just a placeholder.
Okay, yeah, that was pretty hype.
I think it's interesting how they made it a point to show how even with all the shit that was going down the mouse god was still just chilling there resting with his arms behind his head and a smug look on his face. That confidence has to be coming from somewhere, right?
Edit: And what's with all this talk of Vegeta being a dick? That was totally in keeping with his character, to help out in some other way by protecting Goku while he's vulnerable during the charge-up time and being all tsun about it. What show have you people been watching?
I think it's interesting how they made it a point to show how even with all the shit that was going down the mouse god was still just chilling there resting with his arms behind his head and a smug look on his face. That confidence has to be coming from somewhere, right?
Edit: And what's with all this talk of Vegeta being a dick? That was totally in keeping with his character, to help out in some other way by protecting Goku while he's vulnerable during the charge-up time and being all tsun about it. What show have you people been watching?
Vegeta was not out of character in this episode, I said it before, but he was completely fine physically so of course he's going to prefer helping in his own way, rather than just giving his energy to Goku, at the end of 110 it's pretty obvious he's worried about Goku. I can't deny him being an idiot during the beginning of the arc though with his stubbornness about not fighting as a team.
The part where Goku stops Toppo and Dyspo gave me Saint Seiya vibes lol, like Seiya getting his Pegasus meteor punch ready.
The part where Goku stops Toppo and Dyspo gave me Saint Seiya vibes lol, like Seiya getting his Pegasus meteor punch ready.
Black_Stride
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Slim Jiren or Jacket-less Hit?
Can there be a whole new character to surpass Jirens hype levels this late in the game.
RocknRola
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Ah, so it's not necessarily similar at all to what the actual fighter might look like. Cool, this way it'll always be a surprise (good or bad)
BlazinSkatinAxel
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People keep saying Vegeta is 2nd to Goku but he was the only one to use the RoSaT before the tournament.
Vegeta is saving power the same way Jiren did. Why would Vegeta give Goku some energy when he is stronger than Goku?
Vegeta is saving power the same way Jiren did. Why would Vegeta give Goku some energy when he is stronger than Goku?
-Pyromaniac-
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there's still some wild cards they haven't played in this tourney and they must be saving them for a reason.
Yes, exactly.Ah, so it's not necessarily similar at all to what the actual fighter might look like. Cool, this way it'll always be a surprise (good or bad)
SenjutsuSage
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I also love gohan being among that final 4 group.
That's absolutely huge imo.
That's absolutely huge imo.