MetalFearSolid
Banned
Wow, I watched that film in english dubbed. Android 13 and Trunks trash talk was hilarious so don't regret it.
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Dragon Ball Super |OT9| Genki-Drama
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Wow, I watched that film in english dubbed. Android 13 and Trunks trash talk was hilarious so don't regret it.
The Last One
Member
Ultra Instinct is really a perfect name for this new power. I just realized this now lol
Not sure what Gohan "serious" is supposed to be. Cause he would've got knocked out two episodes ago just like that.
No one cared about Raditz, Goku's lost brother and a sayain, something no one had heard of until then, while introducing a new threat to come in a year?
ok.
Hit used to be like Jiren too, and I didn't like him. But during the fight with Goku you actually got context and an interesting relationship (or dynamic) between the two. Jiren and Goku have no dynamic. Action without context doesn't do it for me.
With Dyspo, the issue would be his speed. I guess Gohan could tank the hits to get a hold of him.
I think 17 vs. Dyspo would be a good fight.
HammerOfThor
Member
Finally all fought up to watch last nights ep! Hi wasnt it supposed to be a 1 hour special? Crunchyroll just has a regular ep.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
ArchedThunder
Banned
What happened immediately after he said he wasn't helping? He protected Goku.
Galactic Specter
Member
But Killer Instinct is awesome
Actually being powered up to his Ultimate form. Which he did not do against Jimizu because the show needed him to be on the ropes.
Yeah, that's what's been surprising to me.
I guess I'm one of the few or only who thinks nothing has changed since he was introduced and everyone thought he was boring. Back then he was strong, silent, with no real story. And now he's.....crazy strong, silent, with no real story. It's pretty at least. The clown thing with God powers could be interesting but nothing has happened with it yet, and it's been how many episodes....feels like almost a year.
Reminds me of the Ginyu Tokusentai song. Could it be the same guy?
Bobo Dakes
Member
I'll put Gohan above Dypoposo (and even then the Yardrat confirmed he'd have a hard time with that fight), but yeah, definitely not stronger than Toppo, at least not without hitting that new form.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
Different person than the guy I posted
It's 2 episodes: 109 and 110.
I see, the voices sound very similar.
While it was set up as a 1 hour special, a lot of that was commercials. It was really 2 20 minute episodes. 109 and 110 to be specific. So make sure you watch both.
You can see the bleed in with 110, because 110 doesn't do a recap, it goes straight into the episode.
Omega Kirby
Member
You were piqued by Raditz background because he was related to Goku, but did you really care for him as a character?
I bet you didn't, since he kinda just showed up , said "I am your brother" then proceeds to bully a few people and then died a few episodes later.
Bobo Dakes
Member
They are continually building a mystery around Jiren. Before it was, okay he's strong, I wonder what he can do. I got a little. I got little more. Now I got to watch him show out and wreck Goku (who had this beating coming). And now there is more mystery to him. What's his wish? How did he get so strong? Is he even close to his limit?
They are giving me just enough with Jiren to keep me engaged.
HammerOfThor
Member
yeah, he died in 2 seconds and was still more compelling than Jiren. So not sure why that comparison was brought up lol. Cause if Raditz was around for 30+ episodes....? yeah
...nah sometimes i forget Raditz even existed...i ain't gonna forget Jiren....
also this shot is still amazing
Raditz had much more exposure than Jiren so far. He was irrelevant, no one gave a fuck. Jiren with like 40 minutes of screen time makes everyone's dick hard.
DiipuSurotu
Banned
I wonder what's Toriyama's reasoning for this new form after he specifically made Super Saiyan God the complete opposite of what we were expecting?
Dyspo was only directly countering Hit's ability. It wasnt because he was amazingly strong. Gohan will probably get his big fight with Toppo (I hope).
I just wanna 17 and 18 fight. Its been too damn long.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
The Silver
Member
It's why I brought up Hit, I feel that's the fight that will show if Jiren has a chink in his armor(or creates one) or if he truly has no weaknesses.(my personal opinion is Hit goes down and Jiren just decides to start chilling again and no one has the guts to face him)
and again I wouldn't mind if it ended up like Beerus vs everyone
I don't necessarily disagree. I think he could still be a good character. Heck, he could be the best character of the series.
I just think it's too slow. They needed to give more to make me care about him before the fight. That's my main issue to be honest. And why I didn't care about the fight. It was just pretty. But if it wasn't animated well (tbh, I don't think some of the choreo was great anyway) then they fight would do nothing for me. They've had ~30 episodes to drop little bits and pieces and did nothing. Standing are staring isn't mysterious for me. It just got lame after a while.
Like if Vegeta showed up without barely any context and wrecked the earthlings it would've been like, "um, okay".
But the way they built to it over time (and obviously being a sayain with that whole story) made it compelling. Even though we didn't really see Vegeta until he came.
redfox088
Banned
I just hope the rest of U7 fighters dont get pushed to the wayside in the coming arcs a la Naruto style. Vegeta needs a different for...shit he can go ss4 for all I care, and Gohan need to get back to channeling rage like the cell saga days. Im sorry tho how the fuck they bring back my boy future trunks, the androids, freeza, and buu and the skipped prolly the most complex villain in cell? If you gonna bring shit from z back brink back the villain from the best arc (imo)
They'll fight the Namekians after they one shot Piccolo and Frieza.
Admiral Woofington
Member
If Jiren at least had a cool design I'd like him more. But instead I got an OP character who looks like a grey alien from mars went to the gym and does The Incredibles cosplay.
I thought if you had a pure heart or whatever, it just reflects off of you? That's what Krillian did back in the day but I'm probably misremembering the specifics.
Bobo Dakes
Member
That comparison doesn't work because Jiren isn't a villain. Vegeta went to Earth to get the Dragon Balls and participated in the destruction because he's an asshole.
Jiren is fighting to keep his universe alive.
redfox088
Banned
Krillin threw it Gohan reflected it. Fat buu is far from pure hearted btw. Maybe uub but definitely not fat buu.
Actually, I thought it was nice he thought of Chichi and his sons first.
Crimson_Echidna
Banned
If ever was a time for Jiren to say "Get lost" again.
Must've been a mistake. Goku doesn't care about his family.
Fat buu is pure hearted. It was when he turned skinny he turned evil.
Wheeljack539
Member
At this point someone should just put the neogaf logo over Jiren's head.
DiipuSurotu
Banned
I thought he was after he expelled Skinny Buu from him...
not sure how that makes the comparison invalid.
They're both fights they've built up to for an entire arc, and at the moment the two are foes. There may not be animosity, but that doesn't matter.
Notice me senpai!
redfox088
Banned
Nigglette aint even share his pudding with the god of destruction and ate himself into a coma instead of trying to save the universe. gluttony/greed is a deadly sin bro buu is far from pure
Exactly. Fat buu is pure of heart. Its the skinny dancing one whi is evil.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
Yup, same
Soapbox Killer
Grand Nagus
”When the opponent expand, I contract. When he contracts, I expand. And, when there is an opportunity, I do not hit - it hits all by itself."
― Bruce Lee
I guess this is Ultra Instinct
― Bruce Lee
I guess this is Ultra Instinct
Unspeakable Evil
Member
Based Toei
Pai Pai Master
Banned
The thought of Jiren being too shy to talk to a girl is kinda hilarious though.