TheSlySoul
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The last 2 arcs are so satisfying. Great ending.
Looking forward to getting 80's of each race.
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Looking forward to getting 80's of each race.
Oh, didn't realize it even did that.
Actually, do the AI play 'fair' regarding that? I can't tell if they actually have stamina/ki bars since I never see them charge.
Ugh. farming Dragon Balls (OMG I SAID IT CORRECT FOR ONCE!)
Did it 1 time last night to change my height to be max and medium weight.
1DB away from changing my attributes to be focused around melee saiyan.
Just gonna use my Z-Soul that increases my Strike supers once I got Super Saiyan since I found out that it lasts after I lose super saiyan. Main focus is going to be basic attacks, Strike supers and Health
Did it 1 time last night to change my height to be max and medium weight.
1DB away from changing my attributes to be focused around melee saiyan.
Just gonna use my Z-Soul that increases my Strike supers once I got Super Saiyan since I found out that it lasts after I lose super saiyan. Main focus is going to be basic attacks, Strike supers and Health
Philtastic
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They might have a stamina bar because you can guard break them and it seems like they can only do escape moves so many times before they seemingly can't (it seems debatable whether there is just a cooldown that triggers once they've used it a certain number of times).
They could have ki which they generate naturally like the player through melee strikes or by getting hit or by being human. It's really hard to tell.
Yeah. Did quick testing, and it does 5 bars of "damage" to opponent's Ki bar if it hits in the face. Sadly it can be blocked, can't be comboed into without proper paralysis or stun, and it does nothing to a person in SS mode.
It could have been a hilarious "Turn Off Golden Hair" button, but naah.
I do think the enemy AI plays fair in terms of Ki because you can check that number at any time with your scouter. Well, except when they have permanent scripted SS, then we know they're cheating
It doesn't play fair at all. Stamina doesn't ever last that long. Also the fact that they have reflexes of the gods when you teleport or even get into melee range.
The ai is pretty much a clone of the ai in street fighter where if you don't do anything the ai won't do much and is all based on countering your inputs which is why melee feels super gimped in pve
I answered to the Ki part. Didn't I say Ki? I did say Ki. You're arguing stamina to a person who agrees with you.It doesn't play fair at all. Stamina doesn't ever last that long. Also the fact that they have reflexes of the gods when you teleport or even get into melee range.
The ai is pretty much a clone of the ai in street fighter where if you don't do anything the ai won't do much and is all based on countering your inputs which is why melee feels super gimped in pve
And once I see the AI go for throw twice in a row when I use Evil Whirlwind or Pressure Sign, or get a Just Guard ever (maybe bit of an exaggeration, but it is so rare you could get better results by mashing), I might believe you on the AI being godlike in melee. The AI has unfair amounts of stamina, but it's dumb.
If anything, melee in general and especially strike supers could use a damage boost all around to match more with ki blasts
And to allow them to actually land.
Victory Rush misses is the enemy just takes 1 step back it seems. And on Recoome it never lands.
I'm on steam and I guess for me(because I haven't seen a single complaint but yours) the audio in the game is seriously broken. SFX replay and overlap a lot to make very loud noises, voice lines cut in and out a lot, things get distorted and clip, etc. etc.
TheSlySoul
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The AI does cheat a bit because Super Saiyan form doesn't run out no matter how much you wait.
I think they do have a Stamina meter. Ki meter not so much.
I think they do have a Stamina meter. Ki meter not so much.
Now imagine if the CPU started dashing around to dodge every single blow after the first hit, and only the last hit connects because it has far better homing properties than the rest. Frieza clan is especially adept at that avoidance strategy
I'd rather do 3 Freedom Kick supers than one Victory Rush these days because Freedom Kick homes in like crazy, doesn't stop if the first hit misses, the latter hits can hit flung away enemies quite easily, and can scoop people up from the ground
Welfare
Member
Yeah they have limited stamina, but infinite Ki.
I'll need to grab Freedom Kick then. But yeah Victory rush is just garbage.... though can be useful for escaping
Victory Rush has one thing it excels at among strike skills, which is breaking the super armor on bosses. They don't actually block when they have super armor on, so Victory Rush deals all its hits and for me has never failed to break super armor by the last hit. Also they can't just do an explosion evasion out of it because you have super armor too during it.
If you have one of those melee comboes that ends with enemy flying upwards only mere 3 meters, then comes back down, Victory Rush can catch that enemy pretty reliably in the air, in my experience.
Calcium
Banned
That's fine. As long as it isn't something like "Back, back, forward, Triangle, X, Square, Back, Circle". That's when I just start drooling like an idiot and lose interest.
theres nothing like that in this game
Calcium
Banned
LurkerPrime
Member
There's been patches, but I don't think RNG has been touched at all.
If you're dead set on nabbing the Dragon Balls, run easy PQs (like 2 and 12, IIRC) and restart whenever you don't get a Dragon Ball drop upon defeating the Time Patroller. Shouldn't take too long to grab a whole set, as you won't ever get duplicates.
That is lame, glad the saiyan hair I picked is already standing straight up.
SolicitorPirate
Member
I'm really annoyed that its basically impossible to make a melee oriented female character without gimping yourself.
In fact, one of my biggest complaints about the game is how little freedom you have in customizing your appearance if you're worried about maintaining an optimum build.
In fact, one of my biggest complaints about the game is how little freedom you have in customizing your appearance if you're worried about maintaining an optimum build.
Philtastic
Member
Player skill trumps the stat differences... unless you're just one to go overboard with hyperbole. Female melee is fine much like male ki use.
You should probably state what you find is so terrible about female melee vs. male.
Melee in pve is pretty gimped due to how the ai works. PvP it is amazing...... Till you face people with the most overpowered skills and z souls
Philtastic
Member
Yeah, you won't be losing fights because you went female or liked how Kid Chi Chi's outfit looked.
SolicitorPirate
Member
If two players of equal skill played against each other, one with a male melee build and one with a female melee build, the male has an undeniable advantage and will likely win. It's not hyperbole; it's how the game was designed.
Sure, skill theoretically trumps inbuilt racial/gender bonuses, but the fact remains that the game is intensely rigid when one wants to build with optimum effectiveness in mind.
Dunno about that. I have gone against people my skill level on my female saiyan as melee and the other being male and still won.
SolicitorPirate
Member
That seems more a testament to your skill.
Also, was the male saiyan using a ki build? Male earthlings and saiyans have lower ki damage, just like how female earthlings and saiyans have lower strike damage.
Kyleripman
Member
Haha yeah took me the whole game to train with one person because I'm an idiot.
Pretty cool ending. Now I have a TON of stuff to still unlock and characters of all the other races to create. The RNG is frustrating as hell but I really do love this game.
Usually melee builds I find.
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Queen of Hunting
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heh level 25 and beat the crap out of vegeta's final training session felt soo good was tough though
Philtastic
Member
And how often does that actually happen? You are also assuming identical builds and costumes. A single skill can make all the difference (such as Change the Future/God Breaker, Super Guard, a ranged super on a melee character, Super Drain for stamina regen, Instant Rise escape vs. others which allows you to teleport out of ultimates) and stacking the "wrong" stat on costumes can actually be beneficial in making you more versatile, able to switch styles mid-battle. And then you have Z-souls which can completely change how a build works.
There are far more degrees of freedom in this game vs. a regular fighting game to reduce our analysis to one factor.
MAX PAYMENT
Member
Game comes in the mail tomorrow. Any advice for creating a character?
I'd like to create a melee fighter.
I'd like to create a melee fighter.
Do not touch melee builds for story. Stay far far away for m them till you beat the story.
Go saiyan
Get vegeta as your mentor when he's in town
Get the skill super sandwich and a ki charge skill
Final flash to victory with a ki blast super and heath spec
So i keep hearing about this game all over the place and its getting huge sales.
I'm not trying to troll or anything, i just want to know honestly...what exactly about the game is so good that its getting all this attention?
Like what is it doing that's better than ultimate tenkaichi, raging blast or the other bad 7th gen DBZ games? I haven't kept up with any DBZ after tenkaichi 3 on PS2 mind you, so i'm really curious. I ight pick this up if i can get some positive impressions from those who may have it
I'm not trying to troll or anything, i just want to know honestly...what exactly about the game is so good that its getting all this attention?
Like what is it doing that's better than ultimate tenkaichi, raging blast or the other bad 7th gen DBZ games? I haven't kept up with any DBZ after tenkaichi 3 on PS2 mind you, so i'm really curious. I ight pick this up if i can get some positive impressions from those who may have it
Making girls in this game really suck. I was hoping to make a strong intimidating women that could tower over people like a namekian but the tallest girl is barely taller than krillin =/
And no bulk or proper head options to choose from. I'll stick with males and other species for now. Also wish I could make a slim male buu.
And no bulk or proper head options to choose from. I'll stick with males and other species for now. Also wish I could make a slim male buu.
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
I've had no issues so far with story as a melee female human build. Currently at level 48 or so, just reached the
Whis/Beerus
I have like 90 in basic attack, a small bit in health, enough in stamina to give me 2 more bars, and a bit in ki to give me another bar there. I'll likely dump the rest of my points in stamina and ki supers. I basically can take down most of an enemy's health with a couple Kaioken boosted combos, then finish them off with Final Flash. Probably can't do that in this next battle.
Tallest female is actually as tall as goku
Terrible advice. Armored enemies are annoying but meele is much more satisfying. Spamming beams is boring as hell.
While that may be, the ai kills the fun in melee at times
If you find getting destroyed nonstop to be exciting go ahead, otherwise melee builds for story is a death sentence.
Tesseract
Banned
yeah i don't really get it either, the combat (seems) like a huge step down from tenkaichi 3, among others
I made her as tall and bulky as possible and she's still quite short and slender. The CC options for females are very limited.
yeah, i saw some gameplay just to see what was going on with it, the models look decent enough but the graphics of the levels were all PS2 quality and the combat was really janky with a weird target lock on thing instead of the "there you are!" mechanic of the tenkaichi series. Burst limit looks like what a next gen DBZ PS4 game should look like based on these visuals and that was from 8(!!!) years ago.
Even so, i'm willing to forgive many things if any of you guys can just give me some kinda cool element this game has that isnt with the other more recent titles.
I know that there's some time thing or whatever going on and the DBZ MMO storyline stuff is being incorporated into it..what's that all about?
I think you will see more of A difference in the bulky clothing than the slimmer styles
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