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Dragon Quest 11 releasing July 29th in Japan for 3DS and PS4

I hate to sound pessimistic, especially when talking about a series I love as much as DQ, but I'm really not expecting VA in the localized version of the PS4 game. I think the days of Square Enix going above and beyond for Dragon Quest in the West are long behind us.

I'd love to be proven wrong though.

It's hard to see them not localizing the VA for DQXI when they do it for the Heroes games.
 
Still nothing for NA? Come on SE, get it together.

I fail to see how anyone expected NA/EU news in this stream.

It's hard to see them not localizing the VA for DQXI when they do it for the Heroes games.
Heroes had JP VA, XI does not. More work have to go into the localization, to the point that SE would be basically making an "enhanced" version of the game like they did with VIII PS2

I don't know. I feel like a big part of why this is on the PS4 is also to have an appealing looking DQ to push in the west again, otherwise they could have easily released this on 3DS only and still sold the usual amount without having the burden of a HD version with its cost implications. They've sort of set the standard with DQVIII's localisation, with the inclusion of voice acting, an updated GUI and orchestral music, and that worked well! I'm not sure why they will take a huge step back when the series returns to consoles in the west. The way it is will fly in Japan of course, and personally it doesn't bother me at all, but for the west they have to do a bit more.
This is what keeps some hope alive for me, but I think the PS4 port was for SE trying to make the console have strong legs in Japan (as they've publically stated), not necessarily for a more approachable version of the game for the West.
 
I am currently playing through DQ5 or at least making the attempt, gonna hit 7 and then 8 then 9 if all goes according to plan.

For whatever reason I just have an incredible amount of trouble getting into DQ games. I've tried each entry on the 3DS or PS2 and was never able to get into any of them. I loathe the character designs and despite being a jRPG aficionado and playing some truly terrible RPGs to completion I just...got so bored or tired of them.

I making the attempt again because this game looks good and hopefully I'll have gotten over that hurdle when it comes out to play it. But man there is just something I intrinsically do not like about DQ games.

...DQ Builders was pretty cool tho
 

Roubjon

Member
You are high. The music is nostalgic and incredibly recognizable. There certainly are reasons to replace Sugiyama (they won't until he kicks the bucket because DQ IS Horii+Toriyama+Sugiyama), but the music is not one of them.

His compositions are fine. It's the synth instruments he's using that are disappointing because I feel like it brings this huge dissonance between the music and this beautiful world they've created
 

Anoxida

Member
Hype seriously deflated. A fucking 8 year old party member? Jesus. DQ, you've been one of few series to elect not to use children in their games. It doesn't make sense and the best children in these types of games have been mediocre written at best. Huge letdown.

See you day one guys.
 

Byvar

Member
You are high. The music is nostalgic and incredibly recognizable. There certainly are reasons to replace Sugiyama (they won't until he kicks the bucket because DQ IS Horii+Toriyama+Sugiyama), but the music is not one of them.

It seems that the parts many here are at odds with the DQXI are the parts that the Japanese audience find charming.
The music itself is indeed very charming and recognizeable, but that synth somehow sounds worse than a SNES game's and also clashes with the detailed graphics on PS4. Any reasonable creative mind would replace that with an orchestra but Sugiyama prefers his synth, and they respect that Nanking massacre denier's wish over all Dragon Quest players who aren't half deaf yet.
 

Aeana

Member
Hyped seriously deflated. A fucking 8 year old party member? Jesus. DQ, you've been one of few series to elect not to use children in their games. It doesn't make sense and the best one's have been mediocre written at best. Huge letdown.

See you day one guys.
What are you talking about? DQ5 literally opens with your character at 6 years old. And then later he has his own kids and they join the party.
 

NolbertoS

Member
Hype seriously deflated. A fucking 8 year old party member? Jesus. DQ, you've been one of few series to elect not to use children in their games. It doesn't make sense and the best children in these types of games have been mediocre written at best. Huge letdown.

See you day one guys.

Uhmm, in DQ V, you have the hero's children as party members. DQ II had Loto's descendants which are probably in the 14-16 age range, not children but for sure teens.
 
Welp, there's two versions of the game I'm going to end up buying.

Looks good, looks right, hyped for a day one getting. Will be paying attention as more details come forth, but I've bought them all (minus Monsters, just didn't really feel it), and I'll be nabbing this too.
 

Anoxida

Member
What are you talking about? DQ5 literally opens with your character at 6 years old. And then later he has his own kids and they join the party.

It's one game. And it's way different when you add a bunch of writing, which your kids did not have in DQ5 btw, and voice acting. You wont convince me this isn't pandering. And pandering is something DQ doesn't have to do since it'll sell either way. It's a turnoff.
 

sensui-tomo

Member
It's one game. And it's way different when you add a bunch of writing, which your kids did not have in DQ5 btw, and voice acting. You wont convince me this isn't pandering. And pandering is something DQ doesn't have to do since it'll sell either way. It's a turnoff.

where did you get voice acting from, that isnt in the game (atm), also DQ had children characters outside of 5 as well, hell the cast of 7 is more or less children.
Guessing you're the kind of person who hated Lost Odyssey due to cooke and mack, hated FF4 due to those children characters etc etc.
 
It's one game. And it's way different when you add a bunch of writing, which your kids did not have in DQ5 btw, and voice acting. You wont convince me this isn't pandering. And pandering is something DQ doesn't have to do since it'll sell either way. It's a turnoff.

The cast of DQ7 was mainly children as well. And pandering to whom? It's not like she's sexualized in anyway. What an odd complaint....
 

Aeana

Member
It's one game. And it's way different when you add a bunch of writing, which your kids did not have in DQ5 btw, and voice acting. You wont convince me this isn't pandering. And pandering is something DQ doesn't have to do since it'll sell either way. It's a turnoff.

I'm not interested in convincing you of anything other than that you were wrong when you said "DQ, you've been one of few series to elect not to use children in their games," which is not a true statement.
 
It's one game. And it's way different when you add a bunch of writing, which your kids did not have in DQ5 btw, and voice acting. You wont convince me this isn't pandering. And pandering is something DQ doesn't have to do since it'll sell either way. It's a turnoff.

the other blonde girl is her sister.
The intro animation shows that there is some sort of time travel thing going on
 

Anoxida

Member
The cast of DQ7 was mainly children as well. And pandering to whom? It's not like she's sexualized in anyway. What an odd complaint....

There's a difference between someone who looks like 6 and someone who's like 12-14. Is pandering straightly a sexual term? In that case I might've used the wrong word, I'm not a native speaker. But it seems to me they're going for the cute little sister thing here yeah. I don't think she's sexualized though.
 
It's one game. And it's way different when you add a bunch of writing, which your kids did not have in DQ5 btw, and voice acting. You wont convince me this isn't pandering. And pandering is something DQ doesn't have to do since it'll sell either way. It's a turnoff.

Man what the hell are you even saying here?
 

DNAbro

Member
It's one game. And it's way different when you add a bunch of writing, which your kids did not have in DQ5 btw, and voice acting. You wont convince me this isn't pandering. And pandering is something DQ doesn't have to do since it'll sell either way. It's a turnoff.

I can't tell if you are joking.
 
I'm not sure if I should import this for PS4 or 3DS. I have a Japanese 3DS now so I could save a lot of money doing that. On the other hand, the PS4 graphics look amazing and I want to see them in full detail. I have months to decide. All I know is, I'm not waiting for an English release.
 

NolbertoS

Member
Given how low the sales of DQVII and DQVIII 3DS out West, I expect Sony and Nintendo to pay partial or full english localizations. Maybe thats the reason why SE failed to mention Switch. But I expect this game Fall 2017 or Q1 2018, due to SE adding some extra features for the. Western Market. Can't recall the last time a DQ game got a worldwide release on the same date.
 

Kanann

Member
It's one game. And it's way different when you add a bunch of writing, which your kids did not have in DQ5 btw, and voice acting. You wont convince me this isn't pandering. And pandering is something DQ doesn't have to do since it'll sell either way. It's a turnoff.

The game is rate for everyone (CERO:A), younger player (including myself 30 years ago) are around 6-7 years old too. No need to over protective something something not necessary.
 

Aeana

Member
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10 years old. No kids ever in DQ games before.
 
There's a difference between someone who looks like 6 and someone who's like 12-14. Is pandering straightly a sexual term? In that case I might've used the wrong word, I'm not a native speaker. But it seems to me they're going for the cute little sister thing here yeah. I don't think she's sexualized though.

If you put her model next to the model of the cast of DQ7 I doubt you'd be able to tell the age difference. ALso I'm really not understand your problem with her. So your only issue is that she's 8? really? I still fail to understand what the problem with that is.

Also I don't understand why your dismissing the kids in DQ5 as well. This game won't have VA either and I doubt the writing will be any different since it's the same writer (I think...)
 

Rpgmonkey

Member
If they change the menus I hope it's better than what they did with VIII. Going back to the classic menu in the 3DS port was actually a QoL improvement to me.

Kinda surprised that it's already up for international shipping on Amazon Japan, but I wish more retailers were getting the double pack. I may wait though as the shipping prices for games on the site start out really high and often go down to more bearable levels when the game is closer to release for some reason. It's ~$30 to ship the PS4+3DS versions of this and I want to get the Seiken Densetsu Collection too, but its shipping is almost half the price of the game itself! :/
 

Scrawnton

Member
I am not a huge fan of the look of this game and I am a huge Dragon Quest nut. The game really needs to be cel shaded because everything looks so lifeless.

Still, I'm day one for PS4 and Switch, but man the game needs a more unique visual identity.
 

sensui-tomo

Member
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10 years old. No kids ever in DQ games before.

was just about to bring a ruff picture out, but i think you as head DQ fan have that privilege.

Looks like I didn't manage to articulate my point correctly. That's on me. But ever since voice acting came into the picture, and how children in jrpgs are written in general these days, I can't help but to be extremely pessimistic about this one.

So your issue is you dont want to hear children. you hate the way they are voiced. If its not this i've got not a fucking clue.
 

Anoxida

Member
Looks like I didn't manage to articulate my point correctly. That's on me. But ever since voice acting came into the picture, and how children in jrpgs are written in general these days, I can't help but to be extremely pessimistic about this one.
 

RPGCrazied

Member
And anything closely resembling VIII is a good thing. Its my favorite DQ game by a long shot.

Is the MC silent again? Do we know?
 
Looks like I didn't manage to articulate my point correctly. That's on me. But ever since voice acting came into the picture, and how children in jrpgs are written in general these days, I can't help but to be extremely pessimistic about this one.

Where is the voice acting? Serious question actually.
 

Scrawnton

Member
Looks like I didn't manage to articulate my point correctly. That's on me. But ever since voice acting came into the picture, and how children in jrpgs are written in general these days, I can't help but to be extremely pessimistic about this one.
Typically, writing in Dragon Quest is usually way more appropriate and engaging than most other JRPGs. When it comes to kids, DQ is leagues above the mess that was Lost Odyssey (meaning just the kids) and Infinite Undiscovery.
 
Looks like I didn't manage to articulate my point correctly. That's on me. But ever since voice acting came into the picture, and how children in jrpgs are written in general these days, I can't help but to be extremely pessimistic about this one.

You didn't really articulate it any better here. "These days"? What do you mean? How are they written? What's voice acting got to do with anything? Please clarify at least some portion of your argument.
 

Anoxida

Member
Where is the voice acting?

Hold up. DQ11 doesn't have VA?

Edit:
You didn't really articulate it any better here. "These days"? What do you mean? How are they written? What's voice acting got to do with anything? Please clarify at least some portion of your argument.

It's usually a 30+ woman trying to voice act a small boy or girl. I just don't think it works. Thematically I don't like to have 6-8 year olds to be out there to save the world. As for writing one moment they behave like small kids, one moment they say some damn gandalf level wise shit that's not really possible for someone so young. Eh. Maybe it's just me then.
 
Looks like I didn't manage to articulate my point correctly. That's on me. But ever since voice acting came into the picture, and how children in jrpgs are written in general these days, I can't help but to be extremely pessimistic about this one.
Hmm I think o get ya? Children particularly in jrpgs are usually given an annoying voice followed by a very outgoing and over enthusiastic personality to the point where it can be annoying if one is in the party. Is that it?

It doesn't bother me but I see the problem
 

sensui-tomo

Member
Hold up. DQ11 doesn't have VA?

I mean, in the western release it probably will (and by the same studio that did DQ8, Xenoblade and DQ heroes otherwise i will riot) ... but at the moment there is no voice acting in either the ps4/3ds versions.
Just a note, Dragon Quest 8 in japan didnt have voices until DQ heroes or DQ8 3ds (not sure what was first there) provided them.
 

NolbertoS

Member
Looks like I didn't manage to articulate my point correctly. That's on me. But ever since voice acting came into the picture, and how children in jrpgs are written in general these days, I can't help but to be extremely pessimistic about this one.

DQ is NOT FF, Tales of, or Trails of the Sky characters were some character models are questionable. DQ has been conservative for the most part, in story, revealing characters, etc. The only sexualized character you could say pushed the boundaries was Jessica in DQVIII, but her age was more like early 20's, so nothing controversial. Just think your trying to find something negative when there is none
 
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