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Dragon Quest 11 releasing July 29th in Japan for 3DS and PS4

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GregLombardi

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Generally I am not super happy with how little they have changed the gameplay of these games...and this is coming from a veteran of the series in the sense that Dragon Warrior NES was my first RPG. THAT said, I will probably either buy the 3DS or Switch version, and if it's the 3DS version it will be because I can play it exclusively in 2D. Now THAT was a cool idea.
 
PSFan

PSFan

Member
KainXVIII said:
Absent voice acting (like wth? Even new Zelda have it) and MIDI music is huge bummer for me.
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Eh, VA is not a dealbreaker in DQ for me. I loved it in DQ VIII, but it's really not necessary for me to enjoy the series.

PMS341 said:
New PS4 Slime controller akin to the old PS2 one was announced. Glad this one is making a comeback:

http://www.siliconera.com/2017/04/11/dragon-quest-xi-getting-ps4-slime-controller-hori-japan/

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I actually still have the PS2 one, but it was put away in my attic and got some sort of sap on it. :<
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It looks really nice, as did the PS2 one. It looks really uncomfortable to play a game with though.
 
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shingi70

Banned
if this does indeed come westward, I wonder how the publishing would be handled. Would square Enid bring it over or partner with Nintendo/Sony.
 
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Aeana

Member
You can control everyone in battle if you want to. This "AI only" thing is spreading and I really hope it stops.
 
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jb1234

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jett said:
I forgot Sugiyama is a crazy person and we're stuck with midi-sounding music.
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I'm hoping it's just temp music and it hasn't been recorded yet. It would be baffling for the music to sound like that in an AAA game in this day and age.
 
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gbland

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ps4 version looks gorgeous but I'm surprised how great it looks on 3ds. Looks like they have a classic mode as well? They really went all out on this game! Would eventually like it on Swtich.
 
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Com Truise

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I think the PS4 version has finally reached the breaking point where sticking to Dragon Quest traditions results in a very silly product. You've got these amazing graphics and great cutscene direction...and then the lack of voices, the MIDI tootling and the horrible menus just shit all over that.

I'm going to have fun with this in July, but I think if this game gets the DQVIII treatment for the west, I wouldn't be sad waiting for it, you'll get a better, less bizarre product.
 
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Aeana

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jb1234 said:
I'm hoping it's just temp music and it hasn't been recorded yet. It would be baffling for the music to sound like that in an AAA game in this day and age.
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Sugiyama prefers synth in his games because it makes it easier for him to sell concert tickets and CDs.

The synth really should sound better than it does though.
 
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jb1234

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Aeana said:
Sugiyama prefers synth in his games because it makes it easier for him to sell concert tickets and CDs.

The synth really should sound better than it does though.
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It continues to surprise me that he lost that battle with the VII and VIII remakes (at least in Japan). But yeah, this is *really* bad synth. Final Fantasy Tactics sounds better and it is eighteen years old.
 
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GreenMonkey

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Aeana said:
You can control everyone in battle if you want to. This "AI only" thing is spreading and I really hope it stops.
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Yeah but is it a disadvantage to switch to conttol everyone mode?

Not sure we've seen that answered.

I'm still nervous about it. So many series have turned into this dumbed down control one character autopilot stuff.
 
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Magicpaint

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jb1234 said:
It continues to surprise me that he lost that battle with the VII and VIII remakes (at least in Japan). But yeah, this is *really* bad synth. Final Fantasy Tactics sounds better and it is eighteen years old.
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I think with remakes it's just easier to convince him because they are old games and he's already done so many concerts and symphonic suite CDs. It also makes it a selling point for people to double dip on the games.
 
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Ultima_5

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this looks great.

no voice acting is a non issue for me. i read faster than they speak so i normally just hear the first couple words of every sentence
 
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Aeana

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GreenMonkey said:
Yeah but is it a disadvantage to switch to conttol everyone mode?

Not sure we've seen that answered.

I'm still nervous about it. So many series have turned into this dumbed down control one character autopilot stuff.
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Dragon Quest was one of the first RPG series to introduce AI. In the original version of DQ4, you couldn't control anyone manually but the hero in chapter 5. It's not a new thing for the series at all.

However, there's no disadvantage to manual control here. Not sure where that's coming from.
 
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Kyzer

Banned
I wonder if that DQ1+2 being published by Nintendo in the West rumor is true, and if its possible they could do the same for DQXI.

God I want this badly.
 
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Roubjon

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It would be pretty rad if they replaced Sugiyama any time now. I can't believe how bad the music sounds? Everything else looks amazing and then I hear the music and it sucks the excitement out of me.
 
th4tguy

th4tguy

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Wait, battles aren't turn based? From the video it looks like your party is still lined up but you are running around and doing semi real time fighting? I'm so confused.
 
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sanstesy

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I was in favour of the 3DS version just because I do not like the plastic doll DQH artstyle but now I even want the Switch port to be the 3DS version if I want to replay it some day. The extremely low-quality music and no voice acting (!!!) in a story heavy RPG completely clash with the otherwise modern visuals and well-animated cutscenes. The disparency is seriously uncanny and makes the presentation look unfinished.
 
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GasProblem

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th4tguy said:
Wait, battles aren't turn based? From the video it looks like your party is still lined up but you are running around and doing semi real time fighting? I'm so confused.
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It is. Theres just a battle option in which you can run around. I dont think anyone knows if being able to run around actually affects anything in battles.
 
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Arkeband

Banned
th4tguy said:
Wait, battles aren't turn based? From the video it looks like your party is still lined up but you are running around and doing semi real time fighting? I'm so confused.
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It's probably for people who want to take screenshots or something. I assume most normal people will leave it on the other camera mode.
 
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sir_bumble_bee

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I hate to sound pessimistic, especially when talking about a series I love as much as DQ, but I'm really not expecting VA in the localized version of the PS4 game. I think the days of Square Enix going above and beyond for Dragon Quest in the West are long behind us.

I'd love to be proven wrong though.
 
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Dandy Crocodile

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KtSlime

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Holundrian said:
No improvements allowed lol...

Just stay silent honestly people like you are always just whining about valid criticism and are also the ones staying usually silent about any kind of changes if they come from the devs themselves. Go fanboy somewhere else. Like god forbid DQ improving it's menu navigation, what a sin, because having shitty menus is somehow a cornerstone of Dragon Quest. Bad bad westerners!



Also there is this invention we've had for years now. It's this option called "voice volume".
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I and quite a few other people don't really care to pay for the voice acting. The menu is fine, people in Japan like it. If you want a JRPG made for westerners, go play Final Fantasy.

Roubjon said:
It would be pretty rad if they replaced Sugiyama any time now. I can't believe how bad the music sounds? Everything else looks amazing and then I hear the music and it sucks the excitement out of me.
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You are high. The music is nostalgic and incredibly recognizable. There certainly are reasons to replace Sugiyama (they won't until he kicks the bucket because DQ IS Horii+Toriyama+Sugiyama), but the music is not one of them.

It seems that the parts many here are at odds with the DQXI are the parts that the Japanese audience find charming.

StereoVsn said:
Well, if SE wants to sell the game in the West they have to make some adjustments. On the other hand they may just throw it to the wolves and get Sony or Namco to publish it. Then they will make that a case that DQ doesn't sell in the West.
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Well it doesn't, some hypothetical "if they changed this and that" version might sell, but Dragon Quest as is doesn't - at least not like it should for a game of it's caliber.
 
StereoVsn

StereoVsn

Gold Member
Com Truise said:
I think the PS4 version has finally reached the breaking point where sticking to Dragon Quest traditions results in a very silly product. You've got these amazing graphics and great cutscene direction...and then the lack of voices, the MIDI tootling and the horrible menus just shit all over that.

I'm going to have fun with this in July, but I think if this game gets the DQVIII treatment for the west, I wouldn't be sad waiting for it, you'll get a better, less bizarre product.
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Well, if SE wants to sell the game in the West they have to make some adjustments. On the other hand they may just throw it to the wolves and get Sony or Namco to publish it. Then they will make that a case that DQ doesn't sell in the West.

KtSlime said:
I and quite a few other people don't really care to pay for the voice acting. The menu is fine, people in Japan like it. If you want a JRPG made for westerners, go play Final Fantasy.

You are high. The music is nostalgic and incredibly recognizable. There certainly are reasons to replace Sugiyama (they won't until he kicks the bucket because DQ IS Horii+Toriyama+Sugiyama), but the music is not one of them.

It seems that the parts many here are at odds with the DQXI are the parts that the Japanese audience find charming.
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There are dozens of you, dozens! It doesn't matter how charming this is to Japanese audience. If SE is even a bit serious about DQ in the West then they need to add VA and preferably replace the music.

What may have worked for a 3DS port like VII and VIII is not going to fly on PS4 outside Japan (and maybe Asia) unless they are expecting the same kinds of sales (i.e. terrible).
 
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Magicpaint

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sir_bumble_bee said:
I hate to sound pessimistic, especially when talking about a series I love as much as DQ, but I'm really not expecting VA in the localized version of the PS4 game. I think the days of Square Enix going above and beyond for Dragon Quest in the West are long behind us.

I'd love to be proven wrong though.
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I don't know. I feel like a big part of why this is on the PS4 is also to have an appealing looking DQ to push in the west again, otherwise they could have easily released this on 3DS only and still sold the usual amount without having the burden of a HD version with its cost implications. They've sort of set the standard with DQVIII's localisation, with the inclusion of voice acting, an updated GUI and orchestral music, and that worked well! I'm not sure why they will take a huge step back when the series returns to consoles in the west. The way it is will fly in Japan of course, and personally it doesn't bother me at all, but for the west they have to do a bit more.
 
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HeisenbergWW62

Banned
Hope it comes west in 2018. Don't want to wait super long

And in for PS4 version, since everyone needs to inform everyone what platform they're getting it on, for some reason
 
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Holundrian

Unconfirmed Member
KtSlime said:
People still read in Japan. Frankly I think voice acting takes away from the game.

Can't wait to get the 3DS version. Too. As there is no Switch 3DS double pack, would have bought that.
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KtSlime said:
It starts with voice acting, but then the West will demand that they replace Sugiyama (yeah, politically he's a shitty dude, but most old people have shitty political views), and Toriyama has to go because DQ should use lifelike models, and who plays turn based RPGs (except for Japan) so the menu (which is the very cornerstone of DQ) has to go too.
Oh no, it's already started...
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KtSlime said:
I and quite a few other people don't really care to pay for the voice acting. The menu is fine, people in Japan like it. If you want a JRPG made for westerners, go play Final Fantasy.
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We're at the point where just quoting you just does far more than any argument I could make given how intrinsically garbage quality your statements are.

KtSlime dying on the hill defending 9 quantity item creation limit for Alchemy and 5+ menu steps to save game with the all time strong argument of "go play final fantasy" lol.
 
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kollapse

Neo Member
I'm excited but now having trouble deciding between the two versions! I am doubtful of a 3DS localization, and the price is very good for an import 3DS title, but the PS4 version looks so good...

Seems from this thread that most are going for the PS4 version?
 
StereoVsn

StereoVsn

Gold Member
kollapse said:
I'm excited but now having trouble deciding between the two versions! I am doubtful of a 3DS localization, and the price is very good for an import 3DS title, but the PS4 version looks so good...

Seems from this thread that most are going for the PS4 version?
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Now, which one of the two is region free? ;)
 
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