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Dragon Quest 7: Warriors of Eden (3DS/JP) |OT|
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I usually finish the PSX version in about 65 hours, too. I do think this one is a little faster, and I spent more time messing around this time than I usually do, so most likely people will come in less on average than they did with the PSX one... in theory. But it's still a long game - nothing was cut. Classes level quicker in this version, which would cut grinding times down if people still wanted to do that, and skills not transferring between intermediate and advanced classes also means that there's little reason to level every class or anything like that.
Megalosaro
Banned
yeah, it really is a shame they cut down the Estard Shrine. That wasn't even the part that made the beginning of the game long. It was all the back and forthing between Estard and Fishbel. The Shrine in the original was awesome. So mysterious. And the feeling of exploring with just your best friend in tow was great. Really atmospheric and set the stage for the rest of the game.
A pity
A pity
Magicpaint
Member
One of the biggest complaints regarding DQVII is how long it takes to get to that first battle, so while I'm also a little bummed about the cut, if it means more people actually got to the meat of the game this time, then it's a small price to pay IMO. Then again we're in the age of long intros in JRPGs so it really wasn't a necessary cut.
Oh wow if
. I'm glad to hear that the remake stays true to the original in all the right ways, and most of the changes I've read about all sound fair and right with me. Especially leveling up classes and limiting transfer of skills over classes. If this game doesn't get localised eventually that would be tragic.
Oh wow if
Kiefer rejoins :O
mickagau33
Member
It's exactly what it does for me...DQ7 went from "one of my favorite DQ game" to "my favorite DQ game". So much content and now beautifully presented, it's mesmerizing, especially after Bravely Default (too much recycling in this game)
Yeah, my disappointment about the intro cut completely faded away to the point that I nearly forgot about it while making that post. My other disappointment, about the intro movie being cut (and thus this piece not being in the game) is actually larger for me. It never did show up anywhere in the game.
decoyplatypus
Member
That is too bad - it's a great song. Aeana, supposing this thing ever came to the west, how would you sell it to someone who is a fan of the original DQ7 but doesn't expect to replay the game more than one time in the next decade? Do the graphical upgrades make for a visually fresh experience? Is the orchestrated soundtrack enough to merit paying $30 to play the 3DS version rather than the original? I guess you aren't going to tackle the post-game stuff right away, but I'll be curious to hear if that includes any significant upgrades.
Every time I see this thread bumped I get sad.
Few questions about the game in general...
Is it very easy? I'm really loving DQV but I gotta say the difficulty really leaves the battles unsatisfying. Early on it was pretty decent. But 90% of the game is just spamming the normal attack. VII any better in this regard?
Can you speed up the dialogue text at all? I would settle for just speeding up the saving process. I know it's tradition or something but it drives me nuts (both in V and VIII).
Does this game have a lot of those choices that aren't really choices at all? I got plenty of those in V were I was asked something... even something completely trivial that didn't have any plot relevance but the game would not advance until I choose yes.
Few questions about the game in general...
Is it very easy? I'm really loving DQV but I gotta say the difficulty really leaves the battles unsatisfying. Early on it was pretty decent. But 90% of the game is just spamming the normal attack. VII any better in this regard?
Can you speed up the dialogue text at all? I would settle for just speeding up the saving process. I know it's tradition or something but it drives me nuts (both in V and VIII).
Does this game have a lot of those choices that aren't really choices at all? I got plenty of those in V were I was asked something... even something completely trivial that didn't have any plot relevance but the game would not advance until I choose yes.
I think it was great going through and seeing how everything was redone. I don't really know what else to say besides that. The orchestrated music is super awesome, though, yes.
Dragon Quest games aren't that difficult. They are entry-level RPGs, after all. That said, skills play a much larger role in 6+ than in the games prior, especially for regular fights.
Dialog speed can't be increased, but it's plenty fast in Japanese... they'd just have to make it just right in the English version, I guess.
Choices in DQ ALMOST never matter, however DQ7 actually does have a couple of actual real decision points that affect the story.
PRjumpman124
Member
Thanks for sharing your thoughts, here's hoping for a localization soon.
Thanks for the reply and impressions in general.
Glad to hear skill usage is more prominent in this DQ. I'm not really thinking every encounter should be do or die but I just went through a new dungeon in DQV. Fought about 30 battles and all I did was hit A repeatedly... a little more stimulation is necessary.
Come to think of it I do remember DQVIII being much better in this regard.
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Deleted member 20920
Unconfirmed Member
That was a really good piece of music...I thought it fit the world and atmosphere so perfectly. Such a pity.
My need to import a Japanese 3DS increases everyday... DQ games are great for practising Japanese too...(IMO).
Just started this, and almost 6 hours in. Really enjoying this, this remake excudes so much charm it really feels like a whole new game altogether, from the excellent cell shaded graphics that really do justice to Toriyama's art for once. The little quirk in enemy animations, the way each character walks differently, the orchestrated soundtrack...so nice. Best looking 3ds game so far.
I did try DQVII when it first came out but the huge drag in the beginning until things got started turned me off back then. Really glad they made the whole intro section a bit quicker, although it still dragged a little. Can't wait to delve into it more, there goes my social life.
I did try DQVII when it first came out but the huge drag in the beginning until things got started turned me off back then. Really glad they made the whole intro section a bit quicker, although it still dragged a little. Can't wait to delve into it more, there goes my social life.
Winnie the Pimp
Member
So i just finished DQ V yesterday, great game! Now i really want VII to come out here so i can have all the modern DQs in my collection at least! (IV, V, VI, VII, VIII and IX)
There is still hope...right?
There is still hope...right?
Great to hear! Can't get too excited until rest-of-world release dates drop, though... and they'd better.
JeuxVideo.fr Import Review
+ a cult and underestimated game
+ completely redesigned ergonomics
+ the end of random frustrating battles
+ rethinked game balance
+ better graphics than the original
+ outstanding orchestral musics
- too long for some
- the spit sound effects
- the capricious volatile save
8/10
+ a cult and underestimated game
+ completely redesigned ergonomics
+ the end of random frustrating battles
+ rethinked game balance
+ better graphics than the original
+ outstanding orchestral musics
- too long for some
- the spit sound effects
- the capricious volatile save
8/10
TurnipFritters
Member
what does this even mean.
mickagau33
Member
I think it means it doesnt work in every places-sometimes it's impossible to use the quick save fonction in some parts of dungeons for exemple-I was also a bit bothered by it in a few occasions
mickagau33
Member
Woah, never heard about that ! Do you have any news regarding the spoiler thing ?
Well I'm currently right after
Melvin joining your party
I went looking for concrete info on it and came up empty-handed. It's possible it could have been a hoax. I will have to actually delve into the post-game and see for myself at some point.
Megalosaro
Banned
Question about the post-game.
Do you know if the bonus dungeons are like the PS1 version? Meaning, just a bunch of recycled maps? Or did they redesign the dungeon to have a unique layout?
Do you know if the bonus dungeons are like the PS1 version? Meaning, just a bunch of recycled maps? Or did they redesign the dungeon to have a unique layout?
Welp, it looks like SE is releasing downloadable story tablets now. And the one released yesterday was...
So that's where that info came from, and I am sooo excited to dive into it. They also have ones for
available as well. You can only download these once you beat the game.
Keifer's story, indeed!
Foz and God
mickagau33
Member
Yeah ! Thanks for the info, it seems they also added
young Melvin ! But I guess it's linked to God's story DLC
yankee666
Member
Im still so far away to finish this game, im only at chapter 5 right now
I want those story tablets so bad.......
Magicpaint
Member
So this actually even makes monster class/skills more useful than the original game since here it is the only class (besides the beginner's) that carries them over. Good call.
The story tablet thing was mentioned in an article a while back. Reminds me of the story DLC for DQIX. Very cool to see it materialise.
The story tablet thing was mentioned in an article a while back. Reminds me of the story DLC for DQIX. Very cool to see it materialise.
Megalosaro
Banned
They're a bit like that, aren't they? Any idea how many are going to be released? Just the three?
Mineshaft_Gap
4077th
So is this not coming to the US?
Makes me incredibly sad if true.
Makes me incredibly sad if true.
I'm sure it will come to the US eventually, but it's not likely before the end of the year. Some time in 2014 is more likely.
I've played about 7 hours of this and need to get back to it some time. I put it down a few weeks ago, got sidetracked by other games, and sorta forgot about it. The 7 hours I played were good, but nothing struck me as "great" about it.
BoosterDuck
Banned
Don't. Do. That.
charlequin
Banned
Do what?
Bump the OT just to hope for localization news, presumably. (On which subject I would agree: Don't Do That.)
So I've been making more progress recently and got to this scenario:...
(( indeed!
20 hours or so in now, up to Yubarl. Got like 2 weeks to finish this before smt4 hits...lol
...and just wanted to say,I just finished the Folrish/Forod scenario. Still wiping away the tears.
I really think this might be the saddest scenario in all of DQ. It gets me every time.
Wahh.エリー「ぜぼっと キョウモ ウゴカナイ…。ナニモ シャベラナイ…。すーぷ サメタ。ツクリナオシ…。」
エリー「コノすーぷ ノメバ ぜぼっと ゲンキニ ナル…。」
(( indeed!20 hours or so in now, up to Yubarl. Got like 2 weeks to finish this before smt4 hits...lol
I've been playing this a lot recently and now I've played over 24 hours, up to right after the part where you can choose your jobs. So far the game has had its ups and downs for me. Up until the 14 hour mark I nearly gave up on it because overall it had been so boring, but the next few parts were very engaging, and since then it has been more interesting than dull. Now that I can try all sorts of jobs the game has become a lot more enjoyable. It's a shame they make you wait 20+ hours for that, the combat in the first 24 hours was rather dull.
Anyway, any suggestions on a good first post-Dharma party? I have a warrior (the hero), mage (maribel), and thief (gabo), each at level 18 and job level 4. However, I keep getting destroyed in present-day Dharma by
, so I'm thinking I don't have the right jobs.
Anyway, any suggestions on a good first post-Dharma party? I have a warrior (the hero), mage (maribel), and thief (gabo), each at level 18 and job level 4. However, I keep getting destroyed in present-day Dharma by
the four enemies who are brought forth from the priest who was playing dead in the ruins near Dharma
Gamekult.com Import Review
Square Enix rarely joke around when it comes to Dragon Quest and this remake of the seventh component does not betray this reputation. Horrifyingly long, this PS1 episode is back in a technically flawless release and accompanied by orchestral musics absolutely divine, to taste urgently with headphones without missing a beat. The classic and effective game system, use a dense adventure, which proceeds by small steps to spread a monumental lifespan, over one hundred hours. The episodic structure of Dragon Quest VII is both its greatest strength and a weakness. Nomads players will love these small, often poignant and well-written sketches, even if they lose the thread of the main story, disorientated by both the slow pace and monstrous content of the title. Fortunately, Square Enix has also thought of them with some adjustments sometimes gadgets, but often welcome. This is also why it is the country of service.
+ phenomenal sound quality
+ 3D cute and polished
+ addictive game system
+ enormous lifespan
+ some welcoming adjustments
- countless round trips
- a narrative that may discourage
- the old mechanics
- the unnecessary new character
7/10 (editor's choice)
Square Enix rarely joke around when it comes to Dragon Quest and this remake of the seventh component does not betray this reputation. Horrifyingly long, this PS1 episode is back in a technically flawless release and accompanied by orchestral musics absolutely divine, to taste urgently with headphones without missing a beat. The classic and effective game system, use a dense adventure, which proceeds by small steps to spread a monumental lifespan, over one hundred hours. The episodic structure of Dragon Quest VII is both its greatest strength and a weakness. Nomads players will love these small, often poignant and well-written sketches, even if they lose the thread of the main story, disorientated by both the slow pace and monstrous content of the title. Fortunately, Square Enix has also thought of them with some adjustments sometimes gadgets, but often welcome. This is also why it is the country of service.
+ phenomenal sound quality
+ 3D cute and polished
+ addictive game system
+ enormous lifespan
+ some welcoming adjustments
- countless round trips
- a narrative that may discourage
- the old mechanics
- the unnecessary new character
7/10 (editor's choice)
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