I used implicate and hundred kisses a lot, combined with pentad shot, mighty bend and fracture dart arrows. Rolling with a Sorcerer, Mage and Ranger and had no real problems with those guys. But that dragon... holy shit.
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Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen |OT| deep down darkness
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I used implicate and hundred kisses a lot, combined with pentad shot, mighty bend and fracture dart arrows. Rolling with a Sorcerer, Mage and Ranger and had no real problems with those guys. But that dragon... holy shit.
Warriors Respite is a nice place. Tons of doors and little one offs in Bitterback.
I just got bolide (been using high misma) so I;m all good. Sorc has been fun but I think I still prefer an arrow/knife deal.
Bassmastergeneral
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Any recommended level before starting Bitterblack? I'm level 51 from a newgame+ and am wondering how much more of the game I want to do again before checking out the new stuff. From some comments here it get's pretty crazy.
I just switched from Sorc to Magick Archer. It's flippin awesome. It's like when you switch weapons in Monster Hunter and fall in love with the game all over again.
Jake Tower
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I think someone was wondering what's in the Online Store.
I just looked. It's just packs of Rift Crystals you can buy with real money. lol
I just looked. It's just packs of Rift Crystals you can buy with real money. lol
Yeah that was me. Thanks.
I still have 200k RC which isn't going to be used up much any time soon. Unless I find better cursed loot in BBI.
Escorted Sir Bernne to the shadow fort (got this quest from the bulletin board right when I showed up at the big city).
Now, unless I'm mistaken, it doesn't really explain to you just how dangerous this quest is. It took me a long time and I died a bunch, it took a lot of doing to get around the more dangerous beasties. I departed at level 11 or so. By the time I finished I'm level 16.
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Now, unless I'm mistaken, it doesn't really explain to you just how dangerous this quest is. It took me a long time and I died a bunch, it took a lot of doing to get around the more dangerous beasties. I departed at level 11 or so. By the time I finished I'm level 16.
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That said, now that I've done it, the reward was "Gryphic Victory". It's a two handed sword with 515 strength rating. Yeah. You heard me. It's nearly twice as good as my old two hander.
I did that in vanilla DD.
I would trek to the destination for the escort quest I was going to do next, set up a port crystal then ferrystone back to wherever the quest started then ferrystone to the port crystal.
SlasherJPC
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Loaded up my old save. Said I got all the goodies including the unlimited ferry stone, yet I don't see it anywhere. Is this because I'm in a new game + near the start?
Snapshot King
Member
So, I went to witchwood, but I never saw the port crystal. Is it behind the Golem in the tunnel?
SlasherJPC
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It also said to check your storage inventory
Great! Thanks.. but now another dumb question. I can't remember since it's been so long, but I can't use the ferry stones till a certain point in the story correct? It's not allowing me to in this early new game.
You must reach Gran Soren first.
SlasherJPC
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Man I've forgotten everything since I played this last year. lol.
Karak
Member
Holy crap you are having the same issue I am hahahaha. I am drawing a blank on a bunch of stuff!
Jake Tower
Banned
Yes, it's in the tunnel under the hut.
SlasherJPC
Banned
Right now I'm in the Dark Risen content and one of my party members went down FAST! Problem is I don't see a portal anywhere to get them back. Am I boned or what?
You have to find broken rift stones and pay out rift crystals to repair them.
By Selene's cottage. Yeah I think a golem blocks the door. You have to wait until you get the quest 'witch hunt' to get there I believe.
SlasherJPC
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Ok well are the rift stones pretty abundant to find throughout the maps?
So far they have been spaced out pretty well, but it also gets harder and harder. Just be sure to explore every path to find them.
quoting cause I've had the same question. Does anyone know or does no one care (or care to answer)?
I am playing the digital version. The loading is a bit faster, but it's pretty much the same otherwise. The performance is especially good in the new area, though.
Eppy Thatcher
God's had his chance.
Yea.. hundred kisses I use so I have a "Fuckfuckfuckfuck" option with my daggers out ... but invis and even Gale Harness are incredibly OP if you walk around with 5 or 6 Vims in your pocket. It's ridic. And if snakebite did .. say.. multiplier * monster size for the poison damage (larger they get, more DOT from the poison but less stagger as you go up the monster size scale) I would use it all the time... as it stands it is a fun ability if you spec for poison dmg (which is a totally legit option if you go full assassin) but other than that? it's just not nearly as effective as many other options in the dagger tree.
And Autonomy seems ... to me at least... to be about the same. If anything sliiiiiiightly weaker. But I offset with clout and bloodlust and some others interchanging so i haven't really noticed.
The NecroDragon and The Warg room were both tough .. for sure... but i have to ask - Am i the only person who plays with the life bars off? It's turned on for my pawns so i can manage where I am when they are close to dead for revivals and such but other than that I have every HUD element turned off (memorized the skills and my favorite locations for them ages ago) ....
There is nothing like wailing on a fucking Ogre ... getting punched... kicked... eaten ... healing up, continuing the fight, counter counter counter... oh god Vimes is dead oh SHIT that was last kingswarish I think i might need to run awa - + 34000 XP - ..... Yiiiiissssssss.
Seriously.. ya'll gotta try it.
That's good to hear and more or less what I was hoping to hear lol
HalfBakedProphet
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I'm looking forward to fighting more of the stronger, upgraded ogres.
I had some epic half hour long battles with ogres when I was a level 13 or 14. So much tension at the end when the became enraged and could kill me in one or two hits
I had some epic half hour long battles with ogres when I was a level 13 or 14. So much tension at the end when the became enraged and could kill me in one or two hits
After taking too long creating my character, running a few quests around town, getting taken once by the Brine... had to call it a night.
I can't be the only one who wishes for a lock-on option in battle? Goblins weren't really a problem, but the wolves wouldn't stand still. Minor bother is really all it is, I will quickly adjust to not having it.
I can't be the only one who wishes for a lock-on option in battle? Goblins weren't really a problem, but the wolves wouldn't stand still. Minor bother is really all it is, I will quickly adjust to not having it.
shiftplusone
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Only my character and my pawn level up right?
So theres no real reason to "favorite" a recruited pawn since they'll stay at level 6 or 10 or whatever?
So theres no real reason to "favorite" a recruited pawn since they'll stay at level 6 or 10 or whatever?
They level up too if their owners are actively playing, too. Sometimes I lose one, go back to the rift to get it and it's much higher than when I first got it.
Not Spaceghost
Spaceghost
So when you max out one vocation is it a good idea to switch to another right away?
I switched from fighter to warrior before finishing fighter, but I'm almost done with warrior was thinking right after to go into strider or mystic archer. Thoughts? Just hit level 30 by the way, originally switch vocations around level 15?
Also holy shit that dragon by the shadow fort doesn't screw around. Took me like 10 Archs of Deliverance to down him.
I switched from fighter to warrior before finishing fighter, but I'm almost done with warrior was thinking right after to go into strider or mystic archer. Thoughts? Just hit level 30 by the way, originally switch vocations around level 15?
Also holy shit that dragon by the shadow fort doesn't screw around. Took me like 10 Archs of Deliverance to down him.
Your current vocation affects what stats go up upon leveling, and increases diminish after level 100. But by then you could probably murderize anything outside of the
Ur-Dragon
Yes. Though remember, you're getting that version of the character at that particular time. As in the pawn you got from the lobby was at a specific level at that time, but you can check up on them later and see that they've gotten much stronger.
Not Spaceghost
Spaceghost
Awesome thanks, also what affects vocation level up? Does that level through skill use or XP gain? Also say im level 200 could i still rank up vocations i never used?
This you'll have to research into or hope someone else answers, but I'm under the impression vocations follow some other set of points perhaps, or track EXP but are distinct from levels as I switch my main character and pawn at the same time (Strider and Fighter), and they ALWAYS level vocations up at the same time, and I've been inconsistent about using Strider abilities, and even if I wasn't I can't possibly see my pawn matching me THAT CLOSELY.
R_thanatos
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OK 3 hours after i've started the island i have to say that this isn't something for LV 50 like capcom said.
My arisen is Lv 80 and some of the stuff in there would have one shotted me if i didn't have a Very good gear...
My carelessness has been softenned by the wakestones i had on me ... and i don't even want to talk about
I'm using the digital version of the game and the loading are much much better , there is still a light dip in performance but i swear this run better than in my DD Disc copy.
My arisen is Lv 80 and some of the stuff in there would have one shotted me if i didn't have a Very good gear...
My carelessness has been softenned by the wakestones i had on me ... and i don't even want to talk about
"death" ..i mean WTF I'm looking forward to see him dead. Nice music when death appear BTW
I'm using the digital version of the game and the loading are much much better , there is still a light dip in performance but i swear this run better than in my DD Disc copy.
Deified Data
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Definitely a highlight of the game for me. Really cinches that epic feel. There are a few more "oh shit" moments in the main quest after that.
I'm more of a Gicel guy myself.
The best sorc spell isn't even a sorc spell though, it's Holy Boon.
SJRB
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Onion_Relish
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The ps3 framerate feels a lot better than the demo's so far so good Imo. I couldn't stand it to the point that I didn't get the original DD but I'm loving it now. Im afraid to install HD textures...
could there be better changes in dark arisen? O_O
DD and Monster Hunter .... Don't know what to play
It seems like they made that change so people could still change their jobs post game, else they would've nerfed Caxton too, lol.
njean777
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I think it does it by itself.
RyanardoDaVinci
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Beat it a little while ago, it was good but the bosses take waaaaaaay too long to die -- especially the GINORMOUS GoreCyclopes.
Now, those motherfuckers are the stupidest fucking things I have ever seen in a fucking game; how are you supposed to do anything against something 50x your size, 2x faster than you, hits take off 1/4-3/4 of your health, and every fucking step it takes staggers you until the next stomp or club bash. I honestly don't understand how a melee/magic class can deal with them: can't hit them because you're constantly stagger-locked; can't cast anything because it moves at mach2, wildly swing at you all the time. The only consistent way I've found to kill them is to get high enough where they can't hit you and plink away with arrows for 30min... that's incredibly fun...
That seems to be the devs' way of making things "difficult": throw you in a relatively small, dark room, with giant boss(es) that have 1million HP, do insane damage, and take more damage than the final boss of the game 5x over.
I'm at the highest level, I have most of the best gear... yet I feel like I'm slapping everything with big, floppy donkey dicks.
There's a sword, Cursed Bite, that when at lvl3, does over 1100dmg. I was lucky and got two of them; I'm an Assassin and I do over 2000dmg, and my Fighter pawn does over 2300 with it. Even with that weapon and being at lvl200, it still takes ages to kill the big guys.
NecroDragon is tougher than The Dragon. And yeah... pawns are pretty worthless in Bitterblack. A group of 4 lvl200 characters and we still get worked over. I've done more reviving in the 12hrs of Dark Arisen than the whole of Dragon's Dogma, which I completed ~15 times.
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BTW, about Death:
Now, those motherfuckers are the stupidest fucking things I have ever seen in a fucking game; how are you supposed to do anything against something 50x your size, 2x faster than you, hits take off 1/4-3/4 of your health, and every fucking step it takes staggers you until the next stomp or club bash. I honestly don't understand how a melee/magic class can deal with them: can't hit them because you're constantly stagger-locked; can't cast anything because it moves at mach2, wildly swing at you all the time. The only consistent way I've found to kill them is to get high enough where they can't hit you and plink away with arrows for 30min... that's incredibly fun...
That seems to be the devs' way of making things "difficult": throw you in a relatively small, dark room, with giant boss(es) that have 1million HP, do insane damage, and take more damage than the final boss of the game 5x over.
I'm at the highest level, I have most of the best gear... yet I feel like I'm slapping everything with big, floppy donkey dicks.
There's a sword, Cursed Bite, that when at lvl3, does over 1100dmg. I was lucky and got two of them; I'm an Assassin and I do over 2000dmg, and my Fighter pawn does over 2300 with it. Even with that weapon and being at lvl200, it still takes ages to kill the big guys.
NecroDragon is tougher than The Dragon. And yeah... pawns are pretty worthless in Bitterblack. A group of 4 lvl200 characters and we still get worked over. I've done more reviving in the 12hrs of Dark Arisen than the whole of Dragon's Dogma, which I completed ~15 times.
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BTW, about Death:
It seems the best way to kill him is in one of the very last areas of Bitterblack; it has a bunch of Holy Braziers that deal massive damage to him (it?). Trick is, you have to lure Death close to them and then light them, and the Holy effect only lasts for a certain amount of time. I got him down to about half health by doing that.