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[LiQuid!]

So I started as a mage, but is there a path for me to become a spellsword?

Mystic Knight uses a combination of spells and sword/mace + shield. They're my favorite class personally. They focus more on using magical projectile cannons and buffing their own + party attacks with elements/extra damage etc.

At level 10+ you can change your vocation at Gran Soren's inn. Unless you have a very specific min/max build in mind, spend some time jumping around to all of the classes for a bit, they all have useful augmentation skills you can use across classes, some of them are really good for MK like stability while channeling spells, increased casting speed, etc.

 

[Psychoward]

So I started as a mage, but is there a path for me to become a spellsword?

you can switch between any of the 9 vocations at any time by talking to the innkeeper in Gran Soren. There will be a discipline point cost of 1,000 for each though (1,500 for Assassin, Mystic Knight and Magic Archer) initially. After you buy it once though you don't need to pay to switch back.

Some weapon skills transfer over between vocations and augments transfer to every vocation. I'd recommend trying them all out, there are some I was looking forward to that I wasn't too big on (Magic Archer) and others that seemed to be mediocre until I played them (Warrior).

 

[Antiwhippy]

Mystic Knight

Cheers!

Still pretty early on having

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just finished fighting the hydra snake thing.

Guess it'll be awhile before I reach that class.

 

[Psychoward]

Cheers!

Still pretty early on having

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just finished fighting the hydra snake thing.

Guess it'll be awhile before I reach that class.

You can switch as soon as you get to level 10 assuming you have 1.5k discipline points (can check the status of this using the status screen). They use maces, magick shields and heavy armor if you wanna know what armor to buy/avoid.

 

[LiQuid!]

Cheers!

Still pretty early on having

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just finished fighting the hydra snake thing.

Guess it'll be awhile before I reach that class.

You're technically close, but don't rush it. The game rewards you for being thorough in exploring and going back to places you've been before. Between the hydra fight and going to Gran Soren I highly recommend going back to the first city again to look for quests.

 

[Rizzi]

Yeah so the Ur Dragon can go fuck right off.

 

[AlanOC91]

How are you carrying so many curatives without being overburdened? Even splitting the load with the pawns, they're bound to spend their own to heal themselves...

My Warrior looks like he can carry a lot. It was only ~70 of those crappy healing herbs that heal for like 100hp a pop. They don't weigh too much.

 

[L00P]

Shit, I accidentally started NG+. Oh weeeellll, I guess it's a good time make those failed escort missions right. And also do a fashion dogma run

 

[Morrigan Stark]

1) The "best" armor in the game is indeed in BBI. However, I personally find the level 3 armors to be really ugly.

2) That's correct.

Agreed. The sinner/hellfire bracers and greaves look fine but the chest and head armour, ewwww.

Actually all level 3 head pieces are ugly as sin, I refuse to wear them. I really want a coat of oblivion though... just killed

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Daimon

, finally, time to browse

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BBI part 2

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[Noray]

Agreed. The sinner/hellfire bracers and greaves look fine but the chest and head armour, ewwww.

Yeah the helmet is fugly, huge bummer as my Pawn is a Fighter and I'm MK. I gave her the golden mask from Ur despite its bad stats, I just don't wanna look at that dumb helmet anymore. At least MK can wear circlets that boost magick and have decent resistances.

 

[Styles]

Aw hell naw @ this awakened form. I spend 20 minutes depleting 2 life bars and he goes and shits out an AOE that covers the entire room? BYE.

DONE with this shit.

 

[Morrigan Stark]

Aw hell naw @ this awakened form. I spend 20 minutes depleting 2 life bars and he goes and shits out an AOE that covers the entire room? BYE.

DONE with this shit.

No wakestones? You should be swimming in them after doing a bit of the Everfall.

 

[silva1991]

My dragon's presence mace feels so weak in BBI.

or maybe I'm just not using it right.

 

[Echoplx]

My dragon's presence mace feels so weak in BBI.

or maybe I'm just not using it right.

Mystic Knight? Get a weapon with an enchantment, Ascalon from Ur-Dragon is a good one.

 

[Lanrutcon]

Aw hell naw @ this awakened form. I spend 20 minutes depleting 2 life bars and he goes and shits out an AOE that covers the entire room? BYE.

DONE with this shit.

Your damage output is a bit lacking. In 20 minutes you should have half of him gone, easily. What class are you doing this as?

 

[Noray]

Aw hell naw @ this awakened form. I spend 20 minutes depleting 2 life bars and he goes and shits out an AOE that covers the entire room? BYE.

DONE with this shit.

Daimon's 2nd form frustrated the hell out of me too for a while whenever I wasn't playing a Ranger with blast arrows, but I've figured out how to beat him reliably. If you stagger him out of his Vortex, he takes a LOT of damage for a while. The only reliable way to stagger him out of it ime is grabbing onto him just before he does it. You can tell when he's about to because he'll just jerkily move to somewhere around the middle of the room, usually when he's about 3 pips down. Grab on and slice for dear life, pop stamina consumables if need be. That's when I bust out the periapts and go ham.

Alternatively, you may want to level a bit more and get some better gear.

 

[silva1991]

Mystic Knight? Get a weapon with an enchantment, Ascalon from Ur-Dragon is a good one.

I don't feel like fighting that thing at all, besides I can enchant my mace a holy element.

 

[Echoplx]

I don't feel like fighting that thing at all, besides I can enchant my mace a holy element.

You can get it from offline kills too

MK abilities work off a split between atk and mag so you're gimping yourself by only using an atk weapon.

 

[Styles]

No wakestones? You should be swimming in them after doing a bit of the Everfall.

I had 5 in my inventory.

Your damage output is a bit lacking. In 20 minutes you should have half of him gone, easily. What class are you doing this as?

MK with a Dragonforged Totem Mace.

Daimon's 2nd form frustrated the hell out of me too for a while whenever I wasn't playing a Ranger with blast arrows, but I've figured out how to beat him reliably. If you stagger him out of his Vortex, he takes a LOT of damage for a while. The only reliable way to stagger him out of it ime is grabbing onto him just before he does it. You can tell when he's about to because he'll just jerkily move to somewhere around the middle of the room, usually when he's about 3 pips down. Grab on and slice for dear life, pop stamina consumables if need be. That's when I bust out the periapts and go ham.

Alternatively, you may want to level a bit more and get some better gear.

I am level 130. Playing on HM.

I definitely need a better weapon, or a better strat other than spamming cannons.

But it was my first encounter with him so it's not that big of a deal. I was just taken aback by the fact that it was a back-to-back fight with no checkpoint.

 

[Moff]

I thought leveling up a character would go faster
I wanted to switch to MK or MA for some time now, but there were always other interesting spells and augments to be unlocked for my sorceror
not sure it's a good idea to switch now at the beginning of BBI but I'm gonna give it a try
MK first because I want some melee and MA after that

 

[Echoplx]

I thought leveling up a character would go faster
I wanted to switch to MK or MA for some time now, but there were always other interesting spells and augments to be unlocked for my sorceror
not sure it's a good idea to switch now at the beginning of BBI but I'm gonna give it a try
MK first because I want some melee and MA after that

If you are post game there's an easy way to farm vocations using the infinitely spawning guards in the noble quarter.

 

[MagiusNecros]

If you are post game there's an easy way to farm vocations using the infinitely spawning guards in the noble quarter.

But that's boring. Vocations are much easier to rank up just by exploiting the Wight at night at Barta Crags(respawns every 4 nights) just by killing the undead it summons and not attacking the Wight. You can cut the time drastically instead of waiting an hour to get your ninth rank by farming 6 soldiers at a time.

Soldier farming is only great if you feel like ranking up a class while you have to do laundry or something.

 

[Echoplx]

But that's boring. Vocations are much easier to rank up just by exploiting the Wight at night at Barta Crags(respawns every 4 nights) just by killing the undead it summons and not attacking the Wight. You can cut the time drastically instead of waiting an hour to get your ninth rank by farming 6 soldiers at a time.

Soldier farming is only great if you feel like ranking up a class while you have to do laundry or something.

At least I can go do other shit while it's happening, farming the same enemies over and over again manually is just as boring to me.

 

[Lanrutcon]

I had 5 in my inventory.



MK with a Dragonforged Totem Mace.



I am level 130. Playing on HM.

I definitely need a better weapon, or a better strat other than spamming cannons.

But it was my first encounter with him so it's not that big of a deal. I was just taken aback by the fact that it was a back-to-back fight with no checkpoint.

Ah. MK :/ I was going to suggest climbing on his head and smoking him. That's the generally accepted way of dealing lots of damage, barring cheese.

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

Please tell me i didn't just fuck myself over. I finished the game and had credits roll. It said that I had a "complete file" and all my stuff would carry over by starting a new game.

I started a new game and I am back to a Level 1 Arisen. Checked my Inventory and it was empty. WTF!

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I'm pretty sure the "load game" option turns into something else when you finish the game, also the game tells you it saved a clear save and you should load that.
I think if it didn't save, and you delete your save from your computer, steam cloud should put it back.

Sucks though.

 

[Rizzi]

Yeeeeah, I'm done with Dragons Dogma.

Fuck this. This is not a well designed encounter. This is a "Nah fuck it just add more monsters, who cares about balance" encounter.

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

Lol chamber of fate?
You don't have to do all the chambers you know...
Also, take out the hellhounds first, then the wight, then the gorechimera

 

[silva1991]

Can dark bishop only dragonforge the weapons I'm equipped? unequipped weapons in storage can't be forged?

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

Can dark bishop only dragonforge the weapons I'm equipped? unequipped weapons in storage can't be forged?

Lol, ofcourse not? x'D

 

[Rizzi]

Lol chamber of fate?
You don't have to do all the chambers you know...
Also, take out the hellhounds first, then the wight, then the gorechimera

You mean the hellhounds that shoot fire that knocks me down and drags me off? My bow does like, no damage to the wight and it flies around exploding shit at me. Meanwhile my pawns are getting knocked over by the bullshit gangbang of two chimeras. That's fun.

 

[silva1991]

Yeeeeah, I'm done with Dragons Dogma.

Fuck this. This is not a well designed encounter. This is a "Nah fuck it just add more monsters, who cares about balance" encounter.

Lol dude.

if you think this is unbalanced BS just wait until you see second visit fallen city

now that is what I call bull fucking shit.

that being said just find another easier room in the everfall.

Lol, ofcourse not? x'D

lol I meant inventory not storage, but even there I guess the weapon has to be equipped.


I just don't feel confident with MK.

 

[Ferr986]

Yeeeeah, I'm done with Dragons Dogma.

Fuck this. This is not a well designed encounter. This is a "Nah fuck it just add more monsters, who cares about balance" encounter.

Some Everfall chambers are like challenge rooms while others are easier and with "unique" bosses. You don't need to do them all. They're not even worth now with BBI.

You just need 20 wakestones, you can get all with no effort if you cath an online Ur dragon in Grace status.

 

[Haunted]

Yeeeeah, I'm done with Dragons Dogma.

Fuck this. This is not a well designed encounter. This is a "Nah fuck it just add more monsters, who cares about balance" encounter.

I thought that was one of the most hectic and fun encounters in the whole game.

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

You mean the hellhounds that shoot fire that knocks me down and drags me off? My bow does like, no damage to the wight and it flies around exploding shit at me. Meanwhile my pawns are getting knocked over by the bullshit gangbang of two chimeras. That's fun.

Don't get hit? you have a dodge you know, also use instant reset to stop the knockdown animation, use cutting wind to kill the hellhounds, switch to elemental bow (ice/holy?) and nail the wight with fivefold/mighty bend.
And then just take care of the chimeras as usual.

The encounter is fine, it's just the hardest one in the vanilla game, use all the skills you have.

 

[Rizzi]

Don't get hit? you have a dodge you know, also use instant reset to stop the knockdown animation, use cutting wind to kill the hellhounds, switch to elemental bow (ice/holy?) and nail the wight with fivefold/mighty bend.
And then just take care of the chimeras as usual.

The encounter is fine, it's just the hardest one in the vanilla game, use all the skills you have.

I don't have an elemental bow.

 

[Asmodai48]

Any way to use my second monitor without the game minimising/pausing?

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

Then buy one.

 

[LiQuid!]

How the heck do I get loot off the Ur Dragon? I do literally zero damage to him before he flies away. Do I just have to do the offline version?

 

[Lanrutcon]

Yeeeeah, I'm done with Dragons Dogma.

Fuck this. This is not a well designed encounter. This is a "Nah fuck it just add more monsters, who cares about balance" encounter.

You're going to have to explain to my how 2 Gore Chimeras and a Lich is in any way hard, especially given that you have a bow, you seem to be high level and you're fighting in an arena with a bunch of spots where you can snipe from before engaging in melee. Pop some periapts and Skullspliter things to death. Or equip some Blast Arrows and knock everything over. Mount one of the Chimeras and Thousand Kisses it to death in seconds.

What are you going to do when you encounter 2 Lightning Wyverns, a Lich and 5 Phantasms in a single room?

Man up, Arisen.

 

[silva1991]

Yeah, chimeras are cackewalk after few encounters

jump on it and cut's it's tail and then smash the goat head to death.

 

[Rizzi]

The pawns get bowled over instantly, the hellhounds spend their entire time either eating me or shooting explosives at me. Not much I can do when the entire room is simultaneously eating me, stepping on me, or exploding at me.

 

[Lanrutcon]

The pawns get bowled over instantly, the hellhounds spend their entire time either eating me or shooting explosives at me. Not much I can do when the entire room is simultaneously eating me, stepping on me, or exploding at me.

Hellhounds are cocks, I'll give you that. Take em down from afar or they'll poster you while you're doing the real fighting.

 

[Golnei]

I'm kind of stuck on the Dark Bishop / Cursed Dragon encounter - should I go all the way back to Barroch to switch to a vocation with a physical bow and use silence/blast arrows, or is there a reliable way to kill it as a sub-60 Magic Archer? The dragon itself dies fairly quickly, but I can only get a bar or two off the health of the bishop when he floats to the ground. Apparently, he has a fairly generous stun period when the dragon dies while he's possessing it, but I can't do enough damage to it before he leaves its body.

 

[Ogawa-san]

Hellhouds will probably be the hardest part of that, because they're so very annoying. Fireballs coming from nowhere doing stupid damage and knocking you back, and when you come close they just run away so your pawns are almost worthless on helping clearing them.

Just zerg them with arrows one by one and put up with the dying pawns for a while. You could also get some free shots at them from the balcony before everything starts casting at you.

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

The pawns get bowled over instantly, the hellhounds spend their entire time either eating me or shooting explosives at me. Not much I can do when the entire room is simultaneously eating me, stepping on me, or exploding at me.

Rush the hellhounds, make them do their little jump back dodge, dodge the fireball and then cutting wind, if you get hit, instant reset.

Or hire my pawn and let her take all the aggro, and then just kill everything with your bow.

 

[Cyrano]

The pawns get bowled over instantly, the hellhounds spend their entire time either eating me or shooting explosives at me. Not much I can do when the entire room is simultaneously eating me, stepping on me, or exploding at me.

Mystic Knight with an Ice Cannon. Still, pawns shouldn't be getting downed super easily at this point (except to dragon roars). Make sure your pawns have some armor (800ish is a good place to start) and over 1k attack stat at a minimum.

Ogre Bones and armor generally can also help with Stagger/Knockdown.

 

[Snakethesniper]

Speaking of damage, should I consider both physical and magickal? Because I noticed that sometimes using the Chilling daggers that have a total strenght bigger than the daggers the final boss gave me do less damage , I guess it's because the dragon's one do only physical?

 

[Lanrutcon]

I'm kind of stuck on the Dark Bishop / Cursed Dragon encounter - should I go all the way back to Barroch to switch to a vocation with a physical bow and use silence/blast arrows, or is there a reliable way to kill it as a sub-60 Magic Archer? The dragon itself dies fairly quickly, but I can only get a bar or two off the health of the bishop when he floats to the ground. Apparently, he has a fairly generous stun period when the dragon dies while he's possessing it, but I can't do enough damage to it before he leaves its body.

It's super easy. If you can quickly down then dragon the Bishop is essentially useless. His spells are slow, telepgraphed and dodgable. Just keep killing the dragon as he rises, and use 6/9 bolt on the Bishop. If you got Exploding Rivets, spam that when the Bishop comes down and then run in and slap it with your knives to detonate the rivets. This will ragdoll the Bishop. Silence arrows are cute but hardly necessary.

Just remember the Bishop is almost no threat, if it takes you ages to down him the first time then so what?

 

[Soodanim]

I remember seeing about the exclusion of some armour sets, but I never remembered or looked into which ones they were, Last night I switched to Mystic Knight and began putting together an outfit for

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Grigori

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, and then I began to notice that I was missing a cape or two that I had and used in the original game. Looked it up, and sure enough it's one of the ones I wanted to use. There's probably a couple BBI capes I've forgotten about, but so far I have a grand total of about 4 capes that don't look rubbish.

 

[Cyrano]

Speaking of damage, should I consider both physical and magickal? Because I noticed that sometimes using the Chilling daggers that have a total strenght bigger than the daggers the final boss gave me do less damage , I guess it's because the dragon's one do only physical?

The only other class that needs to consider both is Mystic Knight. Every other class is mostly one or the other.

Magick Archer - Ability dependent (all bow abilities are magickal, not all dagger attacks are magickal)
Strider/Warrior/Fighter/Assassin/Ranger - All Physical (almost always - some abilities can do magickal damage but they're very rare)
Mage/Sorcerer - All Magickal (except their basic push attack, all of their attacks are 100% magickal)
Mystic Knight - Ability dependent (Great Cannon's magickal damage is based on current weapon enchant, including any permanent enchants the weapon has, but also does half of its damage as physical - most other abilities are either all physical or all magickal, indicated by whether or not they're colored abilities, which indicates typing, such as orange for a fire-based attack)