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Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen Steam pre-order is LIVE

Dr Dogg

Member
i've never made a dude

Well Troy Baker does one of the Pawn voices. So you can make a male Pawn, uses Troy's voice, call him something like Ser Baker, and the when he starts yapping about goblins or wolves hunting in packs you can throw your Troy Baker effigy off a cliff to his (sadly only temporary) death. Gave me amusement at least.
 

Morrigan Stark

Arrogant Smirk
I must admit,
the one with the lich summoning hell hounds
, and whatever other nasties were included, is easily one of the hardest encounter in the game, BBI stuff included.
Oh fuuuuuu you just triggered me haha. I had forgotten this completely but now I remember it, it was... painful lol.

Btw you
should probably spoiler the stuff about the Everfall, it's late-game content after all. Not a big deal but yeah
.

Well Troy Baker does one of the Pawn voices. So you can make a male Pawn, uses Troy's voice, call him something like Ser Baker, and the when he starts yapping about goblins or wolves hunting in packs you can throw your Troy Baker effigy off a cliff to his (sadly only temporary) death. Gave me amusement at least.
Or just mute him now!
 

Anteater

Member
Well Troy Baker does one of the Pawn voices. So you can make a male Pawn, uses Troy's voice, call him something like Ser Baker, and the when he starts yapping about goblins or wolves hunting in packs you can throw your Troy Baker effigy off a cliff to his (sadly only temporary) death. Gave me amusement at least.

haha i never knew he's actually one of the VAs for the pawns, now i want to make a snow/ocelot pawn
 

Steel

Banned
Do you customize your pawns like you do your character?

Your main pawn, yeah. For other pawns, you go to the rift and hire other people's main pawn. Also worth noting, the pawns you hire from the rift won't level up when they're with you, but your main pawn will, so you'll be swapping out the extra pawns every now and then.
 

luca_29_bg

Member
He's an example of the kind of person that Durante described in that thread a while back, who will call a port shit because they can't max out everything while maintaining 60fps.

nope, i never said this port is shit, don't put me in my mouth words that i never said. I just pointed out the graphics that not justifies the recommended spec, cpu side, of course!

Just that, i can see me too that it's a good port.
 
Your main pawn, yeah. For other pawns, you go to the rift and hire other people's main pawn. Also worth noting, the pawns you hire from the rift won't level up when they're with you, but your main pawn will, so you'll be swapping out the extra pawns every now and then.
It's important to note that you can give that player a ton of rift crystals if you gain a lot of experience with that pawn in your group. Also, I'm pretty sure you can nab a pawn why higher than you if it belongs to someone on your friends list.
 

Baalzebup

Member
It's important to note that you can give that player a ton of rift crystals if you gain a lot of experience with that pawn in your group. Also, I'm pretty sure you can nab a pawn why higher than you if it belongs to someone on your friends list.

Yeah. Normally, you had to pay RC if you hired pawns above your level but the pawns of your friends were always free. I see no reason why this would be different in the steam version.
 
nope, i never said this port is shit, don't put me in my mouth words that i never said. I just pointed out the graphics that not justifies the recommended spec, cpu side, of course!

Just that, i can see me too that it's a good port.

I think what you're saying is fair maybe not for this game but I always think its kind of bullshit you need to get an expensive graphics card like a GTX780ti to run a game at max settings with 60 fps and at premium resolutions. There are people with 800 dollar graphics cards that can't run fucking just cause 3 at 4k 60 fps. Really? Thats on avalanche not on the user. Same with Fallout 4.
 

RedSnake

Member
Guys, I need your help!

I have this game for the 360, 1000g'd it and loved it.
The only thing I didn't do was complete the Dark Arisen "quest/island".


Why should I buy it again?
Pros and cons of this new version?
I heard some songs and armors are missing for example.

Should I REALLY buy this new game or just "complete" the 360 version?
 

Seyavesh

Member
if you've never played dark arisen but love the original dragon's dogma, buy it
the dark arisen content is genuinely the best in the game and adds a real challenge that is nicely required when your chars get into the endgame

the missing armor is the berserk stuff and the missing song is just the menu music- both of those are worth missing for a 60fps bitterblack isle experience imo
 
I think what you're saying is fair maybe not for this game but I always think its kind of bullshit you need to get an expensive graphics card like a GTX780ti to run a game at max settings with 60 fps and at premium resolutions. There are people with 800 dollar graphics cards that can't run fucking just cause 3 at 4k 60 fps. Really? Thats on avalanche not on the user. Same with Fallout 4.

Not really.

I expect sli to be needed to max everything at high resolutions.

Though sli support is pretty bad now for games.
 

Majukun

Member
didn't got the game on 360 because reviewers pointed out how repetitive it was and how the same enemies were on the same places every time and there was a lot of backtracking with the whole getting missions,execute,get back,rinse and repeat
has this been addressed in some way in the dark arisen version?
 

Seyavesh

Member
didn't got the game on 360 because reviewers pointed out how repetitive it was and how the same enemies were on the same places every time and there was a lot of backtracking with the whole getting missions,execute,get back,rinse and repeat
has this been addressed in some way in the dark arisen version?
the biggest thing dark arisen changes in regards to that is giving the player access to fast travel crystals in the main quest (crystals because you can technically place them anywhere) to reduce the amount of backtracking across areas.

but the enemies being the same is still there. that might be changed with PC version mods though as switching up enemy spawns is supposedly pretty simple
 
Guys, I need your help!

I have this game for the 360, 1000g'd it and loved it.
The only thing I didn't do was complete the Dark Arisen "quest/island".


Why should I buy it again?
Pros and cons of this new version?
I heard some songs and armors are missing for example.

Should I REALLY buy this new game or just "complete" the 360 version?

It won't be a slideshow, for starters.
 

Baalzebup

Member
if you've never played dark arisen but love the original dragon's dogma, buy it
the dark arisen content is genuinely the best in the game and adds a real challenge that is nicely required when your chars get into the endgame

the missing armor is the berserk stuff and the missing song is just the menu music- both of those are worth missing for a 60fps bitterblack isle experience imo

+1. The BBI stuff is amazing from gameplay perspective and it fleshes out the good parts of the narrative and brings forth some additional issues of the cycle of Dragons and Arisen. The PC version should easily be the ideal version due to the performance issues on both of the last gen consoles.
 

Llyranor

Member
Guys, I need your help!

I have this game for the 360, 1000g'd it and loved it.
The only thing I didn't do was complete the Dark Arisen "quest/island".


Why should I buy it again?
Pros and cons of this new version?
I heard some songs and armors are missing for example.

Should I REALLY buy this new game or just "complete" the 360 version?

You can play at up to 4k resolution and 150fps, for starters.
 

GECK

Member
didn't got the game on 360 because reviewers pointed out how repetitive it was and how the same enemies were on the same places every time and there was a lot of backtracking with the whole getting missions,execute,get back,rinse and repeat
has this been addressed in some way in the dark arisen version?

Define 'reviewers'
 

UnrealEck

Member
I have never played the game before but pawns sound like the lamest thing ever. AI party members that tell you stuff and kill things for you. Can you do without them fine?

Also how fashionable can you make your characters? Fashion Souls was lowkey something I really enjoyed in the Souls games.

You don't need pawns. Assassin even has a perk that gives you a boost if you're alone. But without the perk, they help a lot.

It's not quite Skyrim Nexus Mods but people have been making their ideal girlfriends quite well I think.
 

Soodanim

Member
didn't got the game on 360 because reviewers pointed out how repetitive it was and how the same enemies were on the same places every time and there was a lot of backtracking with the whole getting missions,execute,get back,rinse and repeat
has this been addressed in some way in the dark arisen version?
You can reduce a lot of games to that mission structure, so I'm not sure what to say except that reductions like that ignore the journey and exploration, which is what an open world is about.

Warp stones exist, and if we don't get an infinite warp stone from day 1 (one existed as a reward for those who had an original DD save and bought DDDA) you can be sure a save or a mod will exist within days.
 

Majukun

Member
You can reduce a lot of games to that mission structure, so I'm not sure what to say except that reductions like that ignore the journey and exploration, which is what an open world is about.

Warp stones exist, and if we don't get an infinite warp stone from day 1 (one existed as a reward for those who had an original DD save and bought DDDA) you can be sure a save or a mod will exist within days.

the problem is not the structure,the problem is repetition..if i have to travel every time through the same canyon with the same arpies dozens of times before i can get to the new content of the mission ,i'm gonna get bored after a while..even just changing what enemies are in certain zones would add way more variety

but as you and other people said,as long as there's already a method coded in the game for fast travel,mods that can make that costless (if i really found the repetiotion unbearable) would probably be up in a day or two after the release
 
Isn't it the same time everywhere?
Store page says 4 days 21 hours remaining.

It'll be the 15th in New Zealand about 17 hours before it is in the US. If Capcom is unlocking the game at 12am on 1/15 NZ time, then we should all be able to play via VPN on the morning of the 14th.
 

Baalzebup

Member
You can reduce a lot of games to that mission structure, so I'm not sure what to say except that reductions like that ignore the journey and exploration, which is what an open world is about.

Warp stones exist, and if we don't get an infinite warp stone from day 1 (one existed as a reward for those who had an original DD save and bought DDDA) you can be sure a save or a mod will exist within days.

It is there (from the Steam FAQ):
Q) Is the Eternal Ferrystone and bonus items/gears available in the PC version?
A) Yes! Bonus Items immediately accessible are: Swordman’s Ring, Daggerist’s Ring, Staff-Bearer’s Ring, The Lion’s Spine, Robe of Enlightenment, Wavering Cloth, Vagabond Armor, Tiara of Enlightenment, Ruminator’s Monocle, Jester’s Cap, and Fiend-luring Incense. Completing the first escort quest and reaching Gran Soren will unlock the following: Eternal Ferrystone, Set of Fop’s Trek Wear, Voldoan Armor, Priest Vestments, Lady’s Trek Wear, Queen’s Clothing, and Nun Vestments.
Ps3. Not so much x360. He said hes got the 360 version.
Please. The X360 suffered from shit-level tearing instead of the framerate-issues that plagued the PS3 version.
 
+1. The BBI stuff is amazing from gameplay perspective and it fleshes out the good parts of the narrative and brings forth some additional issues of the cycle of Dragons and Arisen. The PC version should easily be the ideal version due to the performance issues on both of the last gen consoles.

Ps3. Not so much x360. He said hes got the 360 version.

http://youtu.be/t3Ky9NiPTjE

My advice is wait. You've already played the game, and steam prices drop fast. Or it'll have a sale sooner than later. Pick it up then. Lets be honest there a ton of other games you haven't yet played that you could get cheaper on steam that are entirely new experiences. Also, the longer you wait the more mods will be available for dragons dogma.
 
i'm joking ^^

You may or may not be joking. All you can read in the last 5 pages of this thread is you spreading panic about the game not running good when for what we know, the game runs exceptionally good. I'm writing it down again, stable 60 fps at 1080p, 50% cpu and gpu usage with everything maxed on a 4690k + 960. Which means even people with an i3 and very low end gpu's will probably play it maxed also.
 
Can anyone tell me how well the game works with integrated graphics? My GPU is dying, and I'm going to have to use the integrated card that comes with my 4670k while replacing it.

If not, I'll probably end up using my old 9600gt lol
 

luca_29_bg

Member
I think what you're saying is fair maybe not for this game but I always think its kind of bullshit you need to get an expensive graphics card like a GTX780ti to run a game at max settings with 60 fps and at premium resolutions. There are people with 800 dollar graphics cards that can't run fucking just cause 3 at 4k 60 fps. Really? Thats on avalanche not on the user. Same with Fallout 4.

Why what i'm saying "maybe" is not right for this game ? Do you see an incredible open world game that needs a really powerful and newer cpu to run always at 60 ? In my modest opinion it's a port with api limited problem(draw calls) in dx9. If this game would be ported in dx12 the scaling distance setting could be maxed out even on old cpus. I don't pretend that capcom do this, of course, it's a remaster and it runs very good. But it could be perfect...
 

UrbanRats

Member
If you meant to make fun of the guy, I don't think that's the correct way to use sarcasm... 'cause this sounds like you are sarcastically agreeing with him. :p

Should've used " ".
Basically, i found it funny how he preemptively dismissed perfectly valid points like budget and time costraints (comparing it to R*, even) like it wasn't a valid argument, even though it's all that's really needed to explain why this port doesn't completely overhaul the graphics.
 

luca_29_bg

Member
You may or may not be joking. All you can read in the last 5 pages of this thread is you spreading panic about the game not running good when for what we know, the game runs exceptionally good. I'm writing it down again, stable 60 fps at 1080p, 50% cpu and gpu usage with everything maxed on a 4690k + 960. Which means even people with an i3 and very low end gpu's will probably play it maxed also.

Spreading panic ? Are you serious ? O_O I have wrote about my experience with the game, if people have an heart attack it's their problem, not mine. In my opinion i used correct words to explain the experience that i have trying the game. I can't play with maxed setting at 60 fps stable because this game it's cpu limited by my cpu. Here my delusion. I shouldn't write about this ? Why ? Because other people think that if this game don't run perfectly on an old cpu like mine, automatically will not on their more recent i7 ? i'm sorry but Gaf it's a videogame related forum, or around there's only paranoid people that overreacting to every single word they read in a thread and can't "contextualize" what they are reading ?

I can't recognize me in someone that "spread panic" for the kind of person that i'm! For me, the words that i have used was right enough to explain my delusion, just this.
 
Spreading panic ? Are you serious ? O_O I have wrote about my experience with the game, if people have an heart attack it's their problem, not mine. In my opinion i used correct words to explain the experience that i have trying the game. I can't play with maxed setting at 60 fps stable because this game it's cpu limited by my cpu. Here my delusion. I shouldn't write about this ? Why ? Because other people think that if this game don't run perfectly on an old cpu like mine, automatically will not on their more recent i7 ? i'm sorry but Gaf it's a videogame related forum, or around there's only paranoid people that overreacting to every single word they read in a thread and can't "contextualize" what they are reading ?

I can't recognize me in someone that "spread panic" for the kind of person that i'm! For me, the words that i have used was right enough to explain my delusion, just this.

Yea that "panic" thing was poorly worded by me. What I meant is that people who read the thread may get the impression that this is not a good port while the reality is exactly the opposite. It's a very solid port with next to no issues at all. Hell this game has a better mouse and keyboard implementation than any other japanese game I can think of.
 

Unai

Member
Can anyone tell me how well the game works with integrated graphics? My GPU is dying, and I'm going to have to use the integrated card that comes with my 4670k while replacing it.

If not, I'll probably end up using my old 9600gt lol

This might help you:

Q) Will the game run on my laptop? [*UPDATED* Jan.8]
A) While the game does not officially support laptops, the game should run well on modern laptop systems equipped with a dedicated graphics chip. We’ve played DDDA on late model laptops such as the Alienware 14/15/17 which came equipped with GTX 960M, 970M, and 980M, and they appear to run well at 1080p/60fps (960M may require some adjustment to LOD/draw distance settings to achieve a solid 60fps). wbacon has briefly played DDDA on a 3.5 years old ASUS Ultrabook laptop with a Core i7 + GT 650M chip where ‘Medium’ settings seems to be the sweet spot for running the game at 1080p with a reasonably stable 30fps (or 720p/60 with ‘Low’ settings). Laptops without a dedicated graphics chip will have to further pare down graphics and resolution settings to get the game to run at a playable frame rate. Anecdotally speaking, the game seems to run okay on the aforementioned ASUS laptop when forced to run on Intel HD3000 (correction - rechecking the CPU specs, the integrated GPU was actually an HD4000 series processor) Integrated Graphics at 720p, 30fps cap, and all other graphics settings set to low. Compatibility and performance will vary depending on other factors so there’s no guarantee; at the end of the day, you’re on your own when it comes to laptops. Capcom does not warrant nor officially provide technical support for PCs that doesn’t meet the official system requirement. If you’re still unsure, search the forums or ask other forum members who may have already tried the game on a similarly spec’d laptop.

I don't know how the HD4000 compares to yours, though.


Found these screenshots which show a good difference when using sweetfx or similar.
The original game looks way to dull

...

I liked it!
 
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