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Dragon's Dogma |OT| For the night is dark and full of terrors
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For me, the most important thing is that the core elements of the game are extremely strong. I've never been a proponent of polish at the detriment of gameplay quality.
While Dragon's Dogma, at times, pretty much defines that phrase "lack of polish," the gameplay never suffers, and that's the only thing that matters.
If Atlas were to somehow be in control of the sequel, I feel it would be absolutely phenomenal.
The gameplay suffered a bit from the lack of balance on difficulty, but even so the game is fun if you know where to look, it's just one of those games that did a lot of things wrong and the flaws could really get to you, on top of that there's the poor questing structure and map design that makes you backtrack the same areas a lot.
It's just one of those games that are really fun if you get into it, or you don't.
I think if it was a more linear action game, the game would've been a bigger hit and a better game.
I do like the direction and what they're going for though, so I hope they don't get discouraged and continue with a sequel.
It's just one of those games that are really fun if you get into it, or you don't.
I think if it was a more linear action game, the game would've been a bigger hit and a better game.
I do like the direction and what they're going for though, so I hope they don't get discouraged and continue with a sequel.
Try different classes if the one you're on is boring/repetitive, hybrid classes are better classes than the basic ones.
MagicWithEarvin
Member
The running atop a monster part got me interested. They must've had some monsters like Jhen Mohran or something, haha.
R_thanatos
Member
Seriously , you can't really dislike this game when you're fighting archhydra or drake and the game is THIS FUN ..
That feeling when you explore soulflayer canyon the first time at night
That moment when you're jumping on a dragon and he start flying on his back , ready to ram himself on the ground teh first chance he gets ..
Yes many stories scenes are poor to say the least ( and that's a shame as the lore and the overall structure was awesome ) but ..who cares ?
When you're travelling and suddenly ... .AMBUSH ( KILL YOUR ENNEMIES ) !! Is more than enough for this game to valid a sequel IMO
That feeling when you explore soulflayer canyon the first time at night
That moment when you're jumping on a dragon and he start flying on his back , ready to ram himself on the ground teh first chance he gets ..
Yes many stories scenes are poor to say the least ( and that's a shame as the lore and the overall structure was awesome ) but ..who cares ?
When you're travelling and suddenly ... .AMBUSH ( KILL YOUR ENNEMIES ) !! Is more than enough for this game to valid a sequel IMO
The game has a very solid base to build on.
Yeah. Dragon's Dogma is a game of moments.
I was walking up a hill, 3 goblins in front of me. I was completely out of stamina and low HP, so I couldn't use my shield. My arisen is huffing and puffing with his hands on his knees. The first goblin (left) approaches and dink! taken out by ranger pawn. The goblin on the other side (right, for those who don't know) approaches and dink! headshot #2. Then the third goblin leaps into the air to dive at me, and he's blasted backward mid-air by a fireball from my sorc pawn.
And how often do you get those incredible sequences versus drakes, griffons, cyclopses, etc. where you're clinging desperately onto some beast, flailing wildly with caught on fire, screaming its head off and you're stabbing it over and over with machine gun dagger swipes? It's like playing God of War, but the awesome moments aren't scripted, they're completely organic and limitless in how you approach them.
It's why I think the sequel is going to be amazing. The groundwork they've done is so good - the core values of the game (combat, movement, the pawn system, the character creator) are so strong. The steak is good. It's the garnish that needs to be better. And I thought the story line was one long love-letter to the relationship between game developer and gamer. It's one of my favorite story lines in recent memory. Though the voice acting for some of the characters, like the princess, Julien, pretty much all the merchants and such, is terrible. Though it's mostly the dialog and lack of direction that's at fault there. No question the lip-syncing is awful.
I was walking up a hill, 3 goblins in front of me. I was completely out of stamina and low HP, so I couldn't use my shield. My arisen is huffing and puffing with his hands on his knees. The first goblin (left) approaches and dink! taken out by ranger pawn. The goblin on the other side (right, for those who don't know) approaches and dink! headshot #2. Then the third goblin leaps into the air to dive at me, and he's blasted backward mid-air by a fireball from my sorc pawn.
And how often do you get those incredible sequences versus drakes, griffons, cyclopses, etc. where you're clinging desperately onto some beast, flailing wildly with caught on fire, screaming its head off and you're stabbing it over and over with machine gun dagger swipes? It's like playing God of War, but the awesome moments aren't scripted, they're completely organic and limitless in how you approach them.
It's why I think the sequel is going to be amazing. The groundwork they've done is so good - the core values of the game (combat, movement, the pawn system, the character creator) are so strong. The steak is good. It's the garnish that needs to be better. And I thought the story line was one long love-letter to the relationship between game developer and gamer. It's one of my favorite story lines in recent memory. Though the voice acting for some of the characters, like the princess, Julien, pretty much all the merchants and such, is terrible. Though it's mostly the dialog and lack of direction that's at fault there. No question the lip-syncing is awful.
Tricky I Shadow
Banned
Personally I think this is not only one of the biggest surprises of the year, but one of the biggest surprises of the whole gen. I’m getting so much more than what I initially expected!
A lot who frequent the Capcom threads usually didn't, they're just there to post capcpom
He probably meant something like enemy step, and walking on enemies like sotc using them as stepping stone.
For the sequel I don't really mind if they cut down on the VA and npc stuff, they could still tell a good story without, and would save them a lot of money, see okami, but it will probably bomb
I can't for the life of me win the fight vs. the Gorechimera + Chimera + Lich + a bazillion Hellhounds, ugh.
Which one is that? Chamber of Hope? It's a pretty hard one.
Indeed. If they went Demon's Soulsy and kept the VA restricted to a minimum, they could save money and keep the game atmospheric.
RyanardoDaVinci
Member
I can't for the life of me win the fight vs. the Gorechimera + Chimera + Lich + a bazillion Hellhounds, ugh.
Use a Magick Archer, Strider, Ranger, or Assassin with Six/Tenfold whatever and you'll be done in 3 minutes.
Drink a Liquid Vim and pelt the Lich with Six/Tenfolds, then the Hellhounds, Chimera, and finally the GoreChimera.
Only time I've ever had a problem in that fight was when I was a class that didn't have a bow.
I'm about to go into the post game, right before ng+. Time to farm a ton of gold and gear right? I think I read that area has a lot of rare gear? I hope the better/rare gear looks good because my assassin looks terrible. :S Loot doesn't look very good to me in this game, maybe I'm just using vendor stuff.
Damn it I shouldn't have changed vocations before coming here. I changed to a brand new one and I have like no skills to use here. It's making things harder than they should.
Damn it I shouldn't have changed vocations before coming here. I changed to a brand new one and I have like no skills to use here. It's making things harder than they should.
OK, I got the silver idol, and I want to get the most awesome daggers and bow pre-everfall. I got tipped that the Kunai were great, and I had to give Madeleine a GOLD idol. So does anyone know whether it'll work with the silver idol?
If not, might be better to give caxton the silver idol, since I might still change vocations later on and want different weapons?
I've already been to soulflayer as well.
Also, I finally defeated the drake, but how can I tell when something is dragonforged?
EDIT: BLOODY HELL. WHY CAN'T I GIVE MADELEINE THE IDOL? There's no supplier's demand quest! When's it goon' pop up?
If not, might be better to give caxton the silver idol, since I might still change vocations later on and want different weapons?
I've already been to soulflayer as well.
Also, I finally defeated the drake, but how can I tell when something is dragonforged?
EDIT: BLOODY HELL. WHY CAN'T I GIVE MADELEINE THE IDOL? There's no supplier's demand quest! When's it goon' pop up?
Union Carbine
Member
Picked up the game over lunch. Can't wait to dive in tonight. Do I need to read up on any sort of guides to start or can I just dive in and muddle my way through without too much hardship?
Union Carbine
Member
Good to know, thanks.
MagicWithEarvin
Member
Caxton is the best choice for the Gold Idol if you plan on switching classes. Madeleine does get the Kunai if you give her the Gold and about four pieces of new equipment. Just give her the Silver and Caxton the Gold, IMO.
You can tell your equipment's been Dragon Forged if you get a message on the top right corner of your screen as soon as you get anything Dragon Forged. You can also check your equipment's stats to see if they have four stars.
MagicWithEarvin
Member
Check the history menu and it'll be in the adventure log.
R_thanatos
Member
Did that one yesterday ...I can't for the life of me win the fight vs. the Gorechimera + Chimera + Lich + a bazillion Hellhounds, ugh.
I was "Oh shit" When the hell hound went into play ..but unfortunatly for them i made 75 spring water before going into the everfall and distributed every healing thing to my party equally so i was able to manage , counter attack at lv 58 ( got a level during the fight )
Assasin + sorceress + mage + knight
Eppy Thatcher
God's had his chance.
I'm pretty sure i just banished a dragon to the nothingess of noclip hell... walked up the north road out of GS towards the drake that resides there post game and he was clipped into the ground... a few arrows gets his attention.. Quest Starts... he flys towards me and I 6fold his face.. instantly staggering him and sending him to the floor.
Then through it.
Then gone.
Triumph music plays. No quest complete. No exp or DF'd gear.
wat.
I'll post again later.. hopefully to drop some pics of me casually beasting on a white hydra. Another one of those Moments. When you casually realize you are playing solo ... without fear... in the everfall against a boss of bosses. And all his stupid heads are on the ground squirming post neck detachment.
Game of my forever. The sequel has no right to be anything short of legendary.
Then through it.
Then gone.
Triumph music plays. No quest complete. No exp or DF'd gear.
wat.
I'll post again later.. hopefully to drop some pics of me casually beasting on a white hydra. Another one of those Moments. When you casually realize you are playing solo ... without fear... in the everfall against a boss of bosses. And all his stupid heads are on the ground squirming post neck detachment.
Game of my forever. The sequel has no right to be anything short of legendary.
Haha, the glitchy flying dragon happened to me too, but I got two items dragonforged, woo!
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
If you are a Magick Archer than this is horrible advice seeing that the undead is highly resistant to Ice
Is there any "sidequest list" available somewhere out there? I am replaying this game currently as an Assassin and it would be nice to have a handy list like that.
Oh and, is there anyway to turn off the "panting sound" of the Arisen when he is running around? It's not really a big deal but the frequency of it starts getting on my nerves.
I once fought the Drake in the Devilfire Grove and after a long, hard-fought battle, of all the things to get Dragonforged in my character... Worker Pants got the honor :\
Anuxinamoon
Shaper Divine
I think the seeker/hunter bolts are holy though... Maybe that's what he meant? xD
RyanardoDaVinci
Member
If you are a Magick Archer than this is horrible advice seeing that the undead is highly resistant to Ice
Huh, didn't know that. They've always gone down easily enough with that attack though.
The best advice for any difficult fight though, is to do: Ranger > Tenfold Flurry. Nothing stands a chance.
MagicWithEarvin
Member
Huh, didn't know that. They've always gone down easily enough with that attack though.
The best advice for any difficult fight though, is to do: Ranger > Tenfold Flurry. Nothing stands a chance.
Tenfold + Blast Arrows + Bloodlust + Autonomy
I said wow
MagicWithEarvin
Member
Some tips:
1. Always carry Skeleton Keys (combine Shackle + Hunk of Ore or buy them from the Black Cat at Gran Soren).
2. Inspect Pawns before you rent them, because a lot of people forget to add skills after they change their Pawn's vocation.
3. Don't rush through the game, take your time.
4. A balanced party of Pawns is the key to great success in battles.
5. Hit it until it dies.
And be sure to experiment with some of the other vocations - they may have an augment to your liking. Augments carry over from vocation to vocation, so keep that in mind.
I was once walking a path and my Arisen fell through into nothingness. I thought I was going to have to reload losing an hours worth of work and then all of a sudden I appear back on the path further down the road.
I figured Capcom programmed into the game a safety measure in case your character clipped into the void.
Tricky I Shadow
Banned
Just fought this bad boy for the first time:
Epic!
Epic!
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
Ice will override fire, I believe.
R_thanatos
Member
Yep the enchantment has priority for damages ...
A fire dagger will do lot of damages to hellhounds if enchanted by a ice spell....
Anuxinamoon
Shaper Divine
Sweet my dragons dogma guide book arrived today. Time to scour through it and reveal all the hidden things I have missed.
Oh well there is always new game ++ right!?
Oh well there is always new game ++ right!?
Augemitbutter
Member
still waiting for a nice artbook release.
Maybe in about a year or so? Official artbooks take a long time to come out after a game has been released....For example the Soulcalibur 5 artbook just came out recently.
Augemitbutter
Member
it varies, but you're right. 4-12 months are normal.
Augemitbutter
Member
is that a joke? please, someone tell them to patch in hard mode instead. what a disgrace.
