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Dragon's Dogma |OT| For the night is dark and full of terrors

Eppy Thatcher

God's had his chance.
Can anyone point me in the direction of a good higher level sword you may have found that wasnt a random chest or monster drop? Im still rocking the saber and im very commited to my sword assassin. The daggers you guys are talking about sound godly and 22k is actually cheap as hell in this game. I eventually plan to mob with a full set of gear on me (sword,daggers,shield and bow) so i can rock any occasion but the armory in GS is basically below me now. Only thing its good for is enchanting....
 
Hmm..I have the wyrm hunt license (just finished the first adventure in the catacombs), and am kind of at a loss as to where to head next.
 

owlbeak

Member
Just switched my vocation to assassin, but I'm really missing my ensnare ability and skull splitter.

How is the assassin skill tree? Any good or should I go back to Strider?
 

Requiem

Member
Hmm..I have the wyrm hunt license (just finished the first adventure in the catacombs), and am kind of at a loss as to where to head next.

Please tell me, where the HELL are these damn catacombs? I was searching all morning (before work) and when selecting the quest on my map it didn't highlight anything and even point me in a direction. Any help is much appreciated :D!


This game is quite spectacular though. While rough around the edges, the gameplay (most important part, IMO) holds it up quite well! I'm thinking that there will most likely be a sequel where they can polish this up a bit and get a better grip on the technical aspects of the game. Absolutely loving the adventures of Sirious (Mystic Knight) and Ferrous (Ranger)!!
 

owlbeak

Member
Please tell me, where the HELL are these damn catacombs? I was searching all morning (before work) and when selecting the quest on my map it didn't highlight anything and even point me in a direction. Any help is much appreciated :D!
I believe if you head due west from Gran Soren it's in the ruins scattered outside the walls, just exit the city and hunt around the western part outside. Good luck!
 

Lonestar

I joined for Erin Brockovich discussion
Please tell me, where the HELL are these damn catacombs? I was searching all morning (before work) and when selecting the quest on my map it didn't highlight anything and even point me in a direction. Any help is much appreciated :D!


This game is quite spectacular though. While rough around the edges, the gameplay (most important part, IMO) holds it up quite well! I'm thinking that there will most likely be a sequel where they can polish this up a bit and get a better grip on the technical aspects of the game. Absolutely loving the adventures of Sirious (Mystic Knight) and Ferrous (Ranger)!!

kind of Northwest of the Capital. Follow the road north, over an old bridge, then a split in the road happens, I think you need to go left. If you come across a bunch of those lizard men enemies, you're on the right path. It's up there somewhere.

There are actually 2 shortcuts near the capital (as the catacombs backtrack towards the capital) but you can't use them until you unlock the doors from the other side.
 

Eppy Thatcher

God's had his chance.
Just switched my vocation to assassin, but I'm really missing my ensnare ability and skull splitter.

How is the assassin skill tree? Any good or should I go back to Strider?

It's excellent (imho). Extremely damage intensive. I rock a bow and a sword and stay mobile. The stinger is as helpful for moving around as the strider equivalent and can't break blocks and toss smaller enemies to the floor reliably. Intimate strike is an AMAZING attack. Anyone in the attack field of the initial stab gets pulled into the twist and pull damage that the attack does. I've personally gutted up to 6 undead at one time not to mention it breaks blocks as well. Lyncean vision is great if your a sniper and 5fold shot is also great. There are tailor made strikes for doing massive damage to any type of creature... Gouge - Dire gouge for large creatures you can climb and Clarity for smaller human sized enemies. Clarity is actually great for canceling combos as well and does huge damage when it connects. If you can time the shield blocking at all clarity will be even easier to adjust to. Not to mention the core skills/augments that make you a beast at night. Poisons/explosives can become especially potent if you use them. protip: every fallen branch/tree you see search.. you'll get twigs which you can combine with poison bottles for poison arrows. 20 at a time. Super usefull...
 

Astra

Member
I ran into a Chimera in the wilderness. I thought I was almost out of curatives, as I never really thought about all the food (fish, berries etc) that I found. They recover a lot of health and stamina, and I haven't really bothered using them up until now. All that food that spoiled went to waste. I am so used to foraged flora recovering such a miniscule amount of health that I never even thought to check how much they recovered here.
 

Requiem

Member
kind of Northwest of the Capital. Follow the road north, over an old bridge, then a split in the road happens, I think you need to go left. If you come across a bunch of those lizard men enemies, you're on the right path. It's up there somewhere.

There are actually 2 shortcuts near the capital (as the catacombs backtrack towards the capital) but you can't use them until you unlock the doors from the other side.

YESSS!!! Thanks, I know where you are talking about!!! I failed an escort mission right around that area lol...
 

Eppy Thatcher

God's had his chance.
Hmmm. MK seems to have a really good stat progression. Might be spending more time on it then I first thought. So far MA has made the game 2x easier though.

I will say switching to Assassin as early as I did made a few of the fights kind of tricky (swapped right after upgrading my strider again so I only had base skills for a bit) but if you action games... and can tactically attack a group instead of just charging in you quickly find the damage output is just insane. I get the feeling that every job has quirks like this ... where if you enjoy the gameplay of the class you'll do much better than trudging through what might be considered an "easier" vocation. I personally I'm gonna rock my assassin till it's maxed. Then probably go back and finish my strider before maybe grabbing some warrior/MK levels... squuuueeeee! i love this damn game.
 
I will say switching to Assassin as early as I did made a few of the fights kind of tricky (swapped right after upgrading my strider again so I only had base skills for a bit) but if you action games... and can tactically attack a group instead of just charging in you quickly find the damage output is just insane. I get the feeling that every job has quirks like this ... where if you enjoy the gameplay of the class you'll do much better than trudging through what might be considered an "easier" vocation. I personally I'm gonna rock my assassin till it's maxed. Then probably go back and finish my strider before maybe grabbing some warrior/MK levels... squuuueeeee! i love this damn game.

Yeah, the Assassin is pure damage output. Switching early like that made your character a glass cannon. I like how the game encourages experimentation with the vocations instead of being a rigid class selection that you are stuck with throughout the game. I would love if some of the skills that are not weapon dependent could be carried over to other vocations. Ensnare being the one I would love to have on any character.
 

Apeboy

Member
One thing the AI has down as far as imitating real players.

They are all a bunch of loot whores. I know you wind up with everything in the end but damn, open a chest and they swarm like bees.
 
Aye. Get a mage in your party that can enchant your weapons, or buy the daggers from Meridia (Merilda? I never spell it right) in the capital. They're like 22,500 gold, but WELL worth it. It's like 270 physical damage and I think 325 or 375 fire damage. Daggers are fucking awesome, plus they look amazing.

Where is the person that sells these? I can't find them for the life of me
 

Santiako

Member
Yay! The game released one day early in Spain so I'm (slowly) installing it right now. Carrot and Angua are ready to wreck shit.
 

creid

Member
Also...anyone find any "knowledge" scrolls about monsters? I got one for saurians and how to fight them. I gave it to my pawn to hold. Do we need to hold onto those for a reason or are they just there acting as an FYI?
I found one for harpies. I think you have to use/consume it to increase everyone in your party's "enemy knowledge."
 

Eppy Thatcher

God's had his chance.
Yeah, the Assassin is pure damage output. Switching early like that made your character a glass cannon. I like how the game encourages experimentation with the vocations instead of being a rigid class selection that you are stuck with throughout the game. I would love if some of the skills that are not weapon dependent could be carried over to other vocations. Ensnare being the one I would love to have on any character.

It was actually really hilarious to come to terms with the fact that while I could swoop through an entire group of bandits at our level and essentially just combo lock and kill everyone if I got caught in one decent combo that left me staggered I needed to just automatically open my items menu and eat some curatives else I was dead. My HP has finally climbed above 1k so i'm becoming more and more confident during fights and clarity really helped me stand my ground if I wanted to... but killing my first chimera was still a thrilling experience.

In the forest with all that open ground... the way it would feint and try to single out my pawn until i tagged the goat in the face a few times was so much better than fighting in that little square room where his moves were fairly telegraphed.
 

1stStrike

Banned
Where is the person that sells these? I can't find them for the life of me

She's down in the the lower quarter of the capital right next to the Black Cat dude. There's actually a quest you can get from a dude where you need to follow someone "suspicious" leaving the castle at night. He goes right to her shop, so if you do that quest you're guaranteed to find her. Then just wait till morning (she'll be closed up for the night) and go back there on a buying spree. There's some really good shit to pick up at her shop which isn't available in the main square.
 

Eppy Thatcher

God's had his chance.
She's down in the the lower quarter of the capital right next to the Black Cat dude. There's actually a quest you can get from a dude where you need to follow someone "suspicious" leaving the castle at night. He goes right to her shop, so if you do that quest you're guaranteed to find her. Then just wait till morning (she'll be closed up for the night) and go back there on a buying spree. There's some really good shit to pick up at her shop which isn't available in the main square.

fucking THANK YOU - if i could command my pawn to perform sexual favors on you i would.
 

owlbeak

Member
It's excellent (imho). Extremely damage intensive. I rock a bow and a sword and stay mobile. The stinger is as helpful for moving around as the strider equivalent and can't break blocks and toss smaller enemies to the floor reliably. Intimate strike is an AMAZING attack. Anyone in the attack field of the initial stab gets pulled into the twist and pull damage that the attack does. I've personally gutted up to 6 undead at one time not to mention it breaks blocks as well. Lyncean vision is great if your a sniper and 5fold shot is also great. There are tailor made strikes for doing massive damage to any type of creature... Gouge - Dire gouge for large creatures you can climb and Clarity for smaller human sized enemies. Clarity is actually great for canceling combos as well and does huge damage when it connects. If you can time the shield blocking at all clarity will be even easier to adjust to. Not to mention the core skills/augments that make you a beast at night. Poisons/explosives can become especially potent if you use them. protip: every fallen branch/tree you see search.. you'll get twigs which you can combine with poison bottles for poison arrows. 20 at a time. Super usefull...
Thanks! I'll stick with it until I get the vocation level up and grab some of those skills. I'd like to keep with the daggers, but might switch to a sword. :)
 

Eppy Thatcher

God's had his chance.
Thanks! I'll stick with it until I get the vocation level up and grab some of those skills. I'd like to keep with the daggers, but might switch to a sword. :)

Dagger has some core skills/augments that I definitely wish made an appearance on the sword side... primary of these is the double jump which i believe is dagger exclusive. Like i said in another post ... eventually my inventory will include one of all 4 of the available weapons to an assassin. Proper prior planning preventing piss poor performance and all that jazz ;)
 

owlbeak

Member
Dagger has some core skills/augments that I definitely wish made an appearance on the sword side... primary of these is the double jump which i believe is dagger exclusive. Like i said in another post ... eventually my inventory will include one of all 4 of the available weapons to an assassin. Proper prior planning preventing piss poor performance and all that jazz ;)
Edit: Whoops! Misread what you said!
 

Lucent

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Hmm..I have the wyrm hunt license (just finished the first adventure in the catacombs), and am kind of at a loss as to where to head next.

i don't know if you wound up figuring this out yet (took me ages of stumbling) but i think the guy you need to talk to, maximilian or whatever, is in the noble district. just go up the stairs from the pawn guild (instead of going to the center of the city) and he shows up pretty soon.

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Amir0x said:
real quick, PS3 or 360 version?

360 slightly better framerate, screen tearing (watch some videos or reviews to see if it bothers you) and the ps3 has no tearing but slightly slower framerate. if neither bothers you then go with your preference (friends, controller, etc).
 
I've had my most epic adventure yet.

I decided to undertake the quest to escort Mercedes to the Shadow Fortress - an unexplored territory. I set out at dawn from the Encampment. The second I step foot out of explored land (southern Gransys), I'm ambushed by a raging Chimera. I have to leave or risk harm to my charge, so I instruct my pawns to beat a retreat. The Chimera, perhaps feeling charitable, lets me leave and runs back into the forest of its own volition.

I travel on a bit until I hit a crossroad. On the left, a dark forest. On the right, a winding road that seems to lead away from my destination - on top of that, I see human silhouettes in the distance and assume they're bandits. The choice seems clear, so I delve into the dense forest.

I'm travelling through the woods, almost to the Shadow Fortress. No enemies so far. Then, I see a gray hulk shambling through the trees between me and my destination. I see a vague outline of a tail and wings - I've stumbled across a wyrm. I do my best to go around him as quietly as possible, I know I can't take him in open combat. This strategy soon falls apart. Once he catches my scent I break into a sprint through the woods, foolishly thinking I could outrun him. Any concern for Mercedes is replaced with my own sense of self-preservation. I clamber over a pile of rocks and scree. Surely this'll stop the monster.

It doesn't. He takes wing and begins dive-bombing my companions. I lose an inconsequential pawn, no matter, I keep running. I run into a legion of hobgoblins, avoiding them when I can and killing them when I must, with the wyrm constantly at my heels. The Shadow Fortress is in sight - I limp towards it with the last of my stamina, and complete the quest.

That is only half the battle, of course. Night has fallen, and my only route back to civilization is through the path I already took. The coast is now clear, so I experiment with alternate routes back home. I see a road to my left (the forest now being on my right), and travel down it. It's night, but my party is strong and goblins are weak. I run into some random, out of place Saurians far from water. I can barely see the small path I'm taking, but stick to it figuring it must lead somewhere. I'm right.

I stumble across a small rest camp, with a travelling merchant and a makeshift inn. I stay for 100 gold and wait for morning. After I've bought a new longbow and a new set of armor for my ranger, I set off for home, and come across a familiar sight. The crossroads where all of my trouble began. The realization dawns on me. The road I saw that curved away from the Shadow Fortress did so because it circumvented the wyrm and the goblins. The human silhouettes I saw weren't bandits, but a helpful shopkeep and innkeeper.

I feel dumb. I could have taken that route from the offset and saved myself a lot of terror. But, if given the option of doing it again, I wouldn't change a thing. Running around in the dark like a chicken with its head cut off is the essence of Dragon's Dogma.

PS - I went back and killed that chimera. I saw a cyclops sleeping peacefully in the grass off the road and decided not to disturb his rest.

Just an example of how a simple escort quest can evolve into something grand.
 

Eppy Thatcher

God's had his chance.
I forget who added me on here sometime yesterday but I had already been in marathon mode for like 12 hours and was above 20.. maybe 23 or 24 .. and the game populated my rift with my friends list pawns .. including a level 11 warrior :D i did a double take so hard before putting it all together. "what makes you so special you hang with these people twice your level!? I must know!"


Awesome Adventure stuffs.

So hilarious. I had a similar case of mistaken identity on my way out of witchwood.. only I assumed that the 6 or 7 people walking casually down the path had to be pawns and civilians. Apparently not ALL bandits wait on rocks and in bushes before attacking. I was practically shoulder to shoulder with them before we came to blows. Was an insane level of tension as I walked by thinking... "don't start nothing ... won't be nothin."

How wrong i was!
 

Jagxyz

Member
She's down in the the lower quarter of the capital right next to the Black Cat dude. There's actually a quest you can get from a dude where you need to follow someone "suspicious" leaving the castle at night. He goes right to her shop, so if you do that quest you're guaranteed to find her. Then just wait till morning (she'll be closed up for the night) and go back there on a buying spree. There's some really good shit to pick up at her shop which isn't available in the main square.

Fuck, did I need to complete that quest to buy from her? Cause I failed it, x_x.
I can't seem to find her shop, all the doors near the black cat are locked.
 

Astra

Member
real quick, PS3 or 360 version?

PS3 version here. The framerate does lower pretty badly at times, especially if you have two mages casting spells at the same time, and several enemies on screen. With the enemies and the spell effects on screen, the game slowed to a bit of a crawl. Hasn't happened much in the 10 hours I have played, and it hasn't particularly hindered me any. I'm not really bothered by occasional drop in framerate, however.

So I got stuck outside at night for the first time, and shit gets intense. Lots of those big goblins, and specters. I have no idea why my mage won't use magic against them and kill them lickity-split. Managed to survive the horde easily enough, though.
 

Amir0x

Banned
360 has screen tearing, PS3 has slightly lower framerate. pick your poison.

PS3 version here. The framerate does lower pretty badly at times, especially if you have two mages casting spells at the same time, and several enemies on screen. With the enemies and the spell effects on screen, the game slowed to a bit of a crawl. Hasn't happened much in the 10 hours I have played, and it hasn't particularly hindered me any. I'm not really bothered by occasional drop in framerate, however.

So I got stuck outside at night for the first time, and shit gets intense. Lots of those big goblins, and specters. I have no idea why my mage won't use magic against them and kill them lickity-split. Managed to survive the horde easily enough, though.

damn, I guess I'd rather a better framerate... but just how much is "slightly lower"?
 
PS3 version here. It dips during intense fights with 6-8 enemies on-screen + your Pawns casting spells (if any), but it isn't that bad, IMO. Just a guestimation here but I think it dipped to as low as 22-24FPS for a couple of seconds.
 

Astra

Member
damn, I guess I'd rather a better framerate... but just how much is "slightly lower"?

Hmm, I'd say it dropped to about a 5-10 FPS crawl. It popped right back up once I spun the camera so all the spell effects weren't on screen at once. Admittedly that is not ideal in a battle situation, but really hasn't caused me much issue.
The framerate only dropped that low on me a couple of times, though. So I'd say it's worst case.
But yeah, if you prefer the better framerate, 360 would be the best option. Unless you have more friends on the PS3 whose pawns you'd like to use, then it really isn't that bad.

I wonder if/when there will be a side by side comparison of the retail version.

People keep using my pawn but not rating her. She literally returns from adventures every time i wake up at an inn, but she doesn't have a single rating. Makes me sad.

My pawn was used a few dozen times, and only had a couple of ratings. Wish people would rate more!
Still, the ones who did rate her were impressed it seems. Apparently I have style!
 
People keep using my pawn but not rating her. She literally returns from adventures every time I wake up at an inn, but she doesn't have a single rating. Makes me sad.
 
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