5-10!?
Fuck my life, what the hell developers
I guess I'll just... not use magic >_<
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Dragon's Dogma |OT| For the night is dark and full of terrors
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5-10!?
Fuck my life, what the hell developers
I guess I'll just... not use magic >_<
Karak
Member
Ya this is pretty much what I got playing them side by side for a couple hours. It is too bad too because enemies were causing it to drop when I was all fighters. 2 magic users and it was dropping pretty dramatically. It is just frankly very unoptomized.
Deified Data
Banned
It feels slow to me. Simply jumping out of the way seems more effective.
I liked the combat in KoA, DD is better imho though. More options and just wading into a crowd is not going to get it. The first few fights though when squared off on a mob I found myself hitting O to roll away. Needless to say that didn't work.
Haha, I wouldn't go without magic, seriously. That was with two mages casting spells, and several enemies on screen. Was also in some knee deep water, so maybe the water effects contributed to the drop as well. You definitely do not need two mages, though, so it should be pretty fine for the most part. I think the most frequent drop I have encountered is down to maybe 20-25 FPS. Just enough to notice it stuttering.
Maybe there's some videos of PS3 gameplay with some mages to show the worst case. I'll have a look.
That was me except with
Adaro
Benita that priest in Cassandria to a place called the Bloodwater Beach or some such dangerous sounding place.
Honestly I almost never use magic in my primary character in any game. Is magic so important in Dogma that you consider it a necessity?
Wind's Howling
Member
I am having a real tough time finding out which quest is even remotely possible on Level 19 because I keep getting my ass handed to me by bandits if I need to reach a certain area for the quest. Lizards? I can handle them. Trolls? Fine. Ogres? Bring em on. But bandits? There are rangers that take half of my health away with 1 arrow.
Definitely. Hiring a mage pawn is perfectly fine, though. It's all I do. They make your life a lot easier with their element buffs, and I believe magic is the only thing that can kill certain enemies.
but a magical pawn can serve the same purpose at least?
Sis I was using your pawn for the longest time. He helped me so much
Omg!
I just updated him and uploaded his new stats so he's even stronger now.
What are you viewing as 'trolls'? Ogres are the brown grey ape-like beasts. What/where are trolls?
Only level 17 strider, I have a tank as my pawn and enlist two magic types. I haven't seen the dramatic drops in fps mentioned above and don't feel like I'm missing anything by not having magic. Will stay either pure strider or ranger. Magic for second play though.
Oh right, the SMITHY. Yeah does that place ever open/offer service?
MagicWithEarvin
Member
How about orcs too?
Yeah, I just head into the rift and hire a magic based pawn with spells I'll find useful in the upcoming area.
There's also items that have elemental effects, though I haven't used any of them yet. So a mage pawn may not actually be an absolute necessity. They are a great help, though.
Of course there are some areas where a mage doesn't really add much to the party, so it's all about picking the right pawns/classes for the adventuring session you're heading out on.
I personally just have a mage with me at all times.
Karak
Member
It is not a 100% have to do thing but it can help for some players. And the drops can occur when enemies use spells in groups as well. It is sadly the effect of the GFX engine effect itself not just having your own. Maybe thats why you have users reporting 5-10 FPS and then 20FPS, nevertheless its something you notice at times. On the plus side, no tearing no matter what!
Eppy Thatcher
God's had his chance.
5-10 fps?? ... really?
I've had it chug for maybe one or two seconds when I sometimes load into Grand Soren right into the market place but never that slow while out adventuring ... Lowest i would say i've ever seen .. with spells going up... cyclops burning and flinging arrows all over the place is maybe 20.
so strange.
I've had it chug for maybe one or two seconds when I sometimes load into Grand Soren right into the market place but never that slow while out adventuring ... Lowest i would say i've ever seen .. with spells going up... cyclops burning and flinging arrows all over the place is maybe 20.
so strange.
Wind's Howling
Member
There is a troll in a cave that involves a quest close to Gran Soren. You will see it once you go inside. There is a quest NPC infront of it.
Manmademan
Member
yeah. I played through the first 15 hours as a strider/assassin with mage backup. works just fine since mages can enchant weapons automatically.
not having ANY mages in your party is suicide though.
MagicWithEarvin
Member
IMO, having a balanced party is for the best. Here's my set-up:
Arisen: Magick Archer, strike from a distance or deadly up front 1v1
Main Pawn: Sorcerer
Pawn #3: Fighter
Pawn #4: Mage, for healing, buffs and debuffs
Arisen: Magick Archer, strike from a distance or deadly up front 1v1
Main Pawn: Sorcerer
Pawn #3: Fighter
Pawn #4: Mage, for healing, buffs and debuffs
Karak
Member
A while back some of us were discussing another game, it slips my mind, that PS3 owners were reporting really huge variances on their FPS when it came to what PS3 they had. For the life of me I can't remember the game but it wouldn't surprise me that in a game that is unoptomized AND pushes a system that small variances could become larger. The console companies have checks in place for this not to happen. But in various threads here 360 and PS3, it sure seems like that is not the case in all games.
That's awesome. not sure WHY reports were that the enemy list was short in this game. I feel it's pretty nice. Oh! One time I came upon a group of mages at night, that served that one cult in the Catacombs. They obliterated me. Then next time in that area, I couldn't find them. Pretty cool.
Drakes - anybody kill one yet? Wtf level is needed to kill them and their 10 purple health bars?
MagicWithEarvin
Member
And the stats too. Thanks!
Btw, I've read you've got to be in the levels 40-50 to have a chance at killing Drakes.
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
i nerini del buio
Member
Holy shit, who said this game was easy? I'm just at the beginning, that
and I'm having my ass kicked so hard. Had to leave a pawn behind too :/
dungeon under the Capital with the blue light, red snakes and stuff
Manmademan
Member
you went to the wrong camp. the tome is at the all male bandit fort near the witchwood
You have to give them curative items and they seldomly use them.
Why the hell did it tell me to go to the other one? Haha, oh well, I liked getting there.
Manmademan
Member
this game would be godly if the devs had played ffxii first
it gives you a choice, since youre not sure which bandits have it. you chose..poorly
Eppy Thatcher
God's had his chance.
So last night i was doing some digging because the exact same glitch happened to me as well (map marker was on the female bandit camp - killed everyone there, found the high up chest and got no book). I got the correct info and went and got the tome but it seems to me that this is definitely a completely bugged quest. I gotta ask .. has any gaffer done the Troublesome Tome quest and had the map marker go to the correct bandit camp?
Also - for those interest in the Berserk armor/weapons I found a handy guide on how to get to them. Not sure if gfaqs is banned here or not? Pm me if you like the link i suppose...
Wind's Howling
Member
Anyone else gets annihilated by the bandits in the woods near the mountain side? There is also a chimera closeby but those bandits can kill me with 1 arrow hit. Is that the place to recover the tome?
Is there's a way to set up camp outside? It's so annoying to always have to go back to town. I had some ferrystones before but they are fairly rare.
The game is fun but quite rough around the edges. It's nice that there's a lot of stuff to discover. The crafting system does offer many items to create. Just found out how to make skeleton keys.
Level 24 so far.
The game is fun but quite rough around the edges. It's nice that there's a lot of stuff to discover. The crafting system does offer many items to create. Just found out how to make skeleton keys.
Level 24 so far.
So what's the verdict on the 360 version here GAF? Is the demo a pretty good indicator of the rest of the game or do they not really give you much to do in the demo?
I loved Dark Souls, and this game seems like a mix of that and Monster Hunter which seems like a great combo. I'm still on the fence.
I loved Dark Souls, and this game seems like a mix of that and Monster Hunter which seems like a great combo. I'm still on the fence.
slaughterking
Member
The tome is in the camp at the southern edge of the map in a ruined castle on the coast. The chest with the tome is at the top of the castle's tower.
Manmademan
Member
I chose correctly the first time, but it was all luck.
when you take the quest, you have the option of heading to map markers either in the north, or backtrack to one further south. head to the northern one, and the southern marker will disappear, and point you to the (incorrect) female bandit camp.
the same thing happens if you head south..you'll get a tip pointing you south and the northern markers vanish. Is it a bug? or the devs just giving you one shot at the location?
Eppy Thatcher
God's had his chance.
Most likely it will be the wrong camp. This quest is almost universally bugged. The actual camp is west of the The Encampment on your map ... just follow the trail with a cave entrance right next to it and you can't miss the camp itself. It's a rather large fort.
But - if those female bandits are able to one shot you with an arrow you should probably level a little more before you try for it.
Edit: beaten
Well then i guess i completely missed that second marker. All I ever saw was the one up north. I purposefully stayed away from that quest for a while as it seemed too far away for me. I probably would have (incorrectly) assumed that the southern base was easier/safer and tried there first if I had seen that marker.
Karak
Member
The game gives you a ton more to do. Its an indicator of some combat but very little of the true awesomeness. It is rare you see this many people in a thread liking a game. It has some technical issues but they dont come close to outweighing the awesome.
famousmortimer
Banned
The ps3 version doesn't get down to 5-10 frames per second - that's crazytalk.
It gets framey the first 2 seconds I'm in the capital. That's it. I roll with 2 mage pawns and in fights against 6-8 mobs, some of them mages also, the framerate barely dips at all. Definitely not down to 5-10 fps.
It gets framey the first 2 seconds I'm in the capital. That's it. I roll with 2 mage pawns and in fights against 6-8 mobs, some of them mages also, the framerate barely dips at all. Definitely not down to 5-10 fps.
Deified Data
Banned
It went to the correct camp for me the first time, not sure why.
Wind's Howling
Member
Oh, i see. It seems that I was in the wrong spot then.
Karak
Member
This happened to me a couple times. So much so I kept thinking I didn't have the proper quests identified to be tracked. Just sometimes crops up.