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Drake vs Kendrick Lamar

CokeDiet

Neo Member
I remember when everyone was talking about this feud having never heard a song from either of them I listened to one song from each. I was mad that was about 6 minutes of my life I can't get back.

Must have sucked for a lot of people that had to sit through that halftime show. I find Kendrick has the most annoying voice I've ever heard in rap.
 
Ahh, I get it. This is your favorite soap opera. Enjoy. Enjoy the eventual series finale when they make up and release a collab album.
You got me. I truly love when the collab albums are made after the kiss and make up. Pac/Biggie was good, but I think the Nas/Jay album is much better. Hopefully the Drake/Pusha is released before the Drake/Kendrick one is.
 

dem

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Idleyes

Gold Member
You think a 17 year old and a 23 year old is.. pedophilia? Honestly?

Not only is it not pedophilia.. it’s completely legal.


Honestly.. I find Bill Belichicks relationship more disturbing. 😂 You shouldn’t be fucking someone younger than your own children 😂

You're not like us.
 

Idleyes

Gold Member
You think a 17 year old and a 23 year old is.. pedophilia? Honestly?

In Colorado, the age of consent is 17, which is where the video of Drake and the 17-year-old fan took place. So, I highly doubt it was illegal.

I don’t have much room to judge, considering I’m 10 years older than my wife, we met when I was 31 and she was 21, and we’ve been together for 20 years. In comparison, Drake was only six years older than the girl in the video.

That said, I brought it up because it does add some credibility, along with his history of friendships with younger girls, to Kendrick’s lines: ‘Say Drake, I hear you like them young’ and ‘A minorrrrrr’."
 

Idleyes

Gold Member
I actually enjoyed it because I knew what was happening and knew the lyrics to the songs. But I totally get why some folks don’t mess with rap, also if you don’t know the artist, it probably just sounds like a bunch of noise.

When The Who did the Super Bowl in 2010, I was bored out of my damn mind, felt like I was gettin robbed by a fucking supermarket at 2 AM. Same thing happened in 2006 with The Rolling Stones, except this time, it was just some old white nigga doing the same two-step shuffle for 13 minutes straight like he was buffering.

And don’t even get me started on 2005 with Paul McCartney. Swear to god I aged like 10 years during Hey Jude. I thought the halftime show was over, but nah, bruh bruh was just getting to the na-na-na-naaaas. Prince though? Nigga had it raining while he played Purple Rain. Oh and, and, and, can't forget 2009 when Bruce Springsteen slid crotch-first into the camera like he was auditioning for Magic Mike! Straight trippin. Super Bowl halftime shows are a wild ride, man. Sometimes you get Kendrick Lamar going to war,& sometimes you get U2 singing like we just lost one. Kna mean?
 

DeafTourette

Perpetually Offended
I actually enjoyed it because I knew what was happening and knew the lyrics to the songs. But I totally get why some folks don’t mess with rap, also if you don’t know the artist, it probably just sounds like a bunch of noise.

When The Who did the Super Bowl in 2010, I was bored out of my damn mind, felt like I was gettin robbed by a fucking supermarket at 2 AM. Same thing happened in 2006 with The Rolling Stones, except this time, it was just some old white nigga doing the same two-step shuffle for 13 minutes straight like he was buffering.

And don’t even get me started on 2005 with Paul McCartney. Swear to god I aged like 10 years during Hey Jude. I thought the halftime show was over, but nah, bruh bruh was just getting to the na-na-na-naaaas. Prince though? Nigga had it raining while he played Purple Rain. Oh and, and, and, can't forget 2009 when Bruce Springsteen slid crotch-first into the camera like he was auditioning for Magic Mike! Straight trippin. Super Bowl halftime shows are a wild ride, man. Sometimes you get Kendrick Lamar going to war,& sometimes you get U2 singing like we just lost one. Kna mean?

To me, the best half-time shows have been MJ, Prince, Beyonce, celebration of West Coast Hip Hop, that time Bruno Mars was there.... Usher... And now Kendrick.

Otherwise, there really hasn't been a standout halftime show... And you're right, the rock bands have been very boring. They don't give a SHOW... They just sing and that's it... No story... No dancing... No moving around the stage and participating with the dancers... Nothing that screams PERFORMANCE... No guest musicians to spice it up...

MJ and Prince were the standard bearers... So many failed to live up to their performances
 

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Kendrick man.. Gotta be the most over hyped and over protected rapper of all time.

Dude is trying to share a message about unity... while performing a diss record.

get the fuck out of here with your fake ass, preachy bullshit.

No one was paying attention to the stupid flag, or the marching band army, all anyone was talking about after that show was Drake and Serena.

So you had the biggest moment of your career, and people are talking about everything but you, or your message.

He had a chance to make this an all time rap performance, instead he made it about drake. He performed 2 drake diss songs, and tried to tell a story that no one was paying any attention to.

Pick a topic and stay on it, get over drake. hes obsessed with the man.
 
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SF Kosmo

Banned
Super Bowl halftime shows are seldom great in the sense that they don't really show an artist at their peak, they're safe greatest hits medleys, usually with some silly crossovers and aimed at middle America.

So I felt like the Kendrick performance was daring by Super Bowl standards -- it featured some social critique in the imagery, but subtle enough to sail over the heads of middle America. But it was safe by Kendrick standards. The Drake jabs and Not Like Us were enough to distract most people.

I'm kind of over the beef at this point just because no one is really contesting it anymore. Like Kenny won, he got the "undisputed West Coast victory" that Drake talked about in Taylor Made, and that's a wrap. If he starts yapping again then fine, but I feel like it's safe to move on at one point. The horse is dead.

So yeah good to see Kendrick take his victory lap and all, but much more excited to see what's next.
 
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Idleyes

Gold Member
Kendrick man.. Gotta be the most over hyped and over protected rapper of all time.

Dude is trying to share a message about unity... while performing a diss record.

get the fuck out of here with your fake ass, preachy bullshit.

No one was paying attention to the stupid flag, or the marching band army, all anyone was talking about after that show was Drake and Serena.

So you had the biggest moment of your career, and people are talking about everything but you, or your message.

He had a chance to make this an all time rap performance, instead he made it about drake. He performed 2 drake diss songs, and tried to tell a story that no one was paying any attention to.

Pick a topic and stay on it, get over drake. hes obsessed with the man.

All excellent points, except for the "fake ass, preachy bullshit." Kendrick genuinely cares about the trauma in the Black community. I can agree that he may not always address it perfectly, and hip-hop as a whole still has room to grow in that respect, but calling him fake? That’s just the hate talking. I'm hell fucking no a Drake fan but I don't think drake is fake. He's really living that rap life that is the distraction that it serves, nothing fake about that. I would say he's a whack rapper from all the lyrics he stole over the years though. :messenger_beaming:
 

SF Kosmo

Banned
Drake is fake, he cops accents, musical styles, lyrics, and all his fake sensitive boy personas.

Kendrick is harder to know as a person. He doesn't do a lot of interviews or media appearances, you won't find him on any podcasts, or going go Hollywood parties and shit. He's very private, mostly just talks through his music and is okay leaving some mystery.
 

Idleyes

Gold Member
Drake has always been an opportunist, and he’s never tried to hide it. When he adopts accents, it’s because he thinks they sound cool. When he borrows (aka stole) lyrics from other artists, it’s because he believes they fit the moment. Everything he does is calculated to reach, and stay at, the top of the rap game. He has always been open about that. I might not like it, but to say he's fake would mean I haven't been paying attention.
 
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DeafTourette

Perpetually Offended
Small thing I need to correct.... Drake and Serena never dated .. he wanted to, she curbed him... Then he basically stalked her for years ... That's why she was in the show... A big FU to Drake.
 

Idleyes

Gold Member
Ahh, I get it. This is your favorite soap opera. Enjoy. Enjoy the eventual series finale when they make up and release a collab album.
I bet you're waiting for that Eminem & Benzino Collab or to stumble across that 50 Cent song featuring Ja Rule that nobody can find. Some beefs just never end, some do. Holy shit I think I just heard Gucci Mane and Jeezy is going on tour!!! Look, clearly you're not a hip-hop head so maybe you should just, I dunno, go talk about the genre you're into?
 

TDiddyLive

Member
I bet you're waiting for that Eminem & Benzino Collab or to stumble across that 50 Cent song featuring Ja Rule that nobody can find. Some beefs just never end, some do. Holy shit I think I just heard Gucci Mane and Jeezy is going on tour!!! Look, clearly you're not a hip-hop head so maybe you should just, I dunno, go talk about the genre you're into?
It’s weird how Kendrick fans ignore everything that shows how fake this “beef” is, so they deflect by bringing up other feuds between rappers that nobody else claimed were fraudulent.

The last 10 years the two of them used each other to boost visibility of their new albums. Feuds generate free advertising. Then last year they massively bumped it up. A slam dunk defamation lawsuit against Kendrick would pull the album and be an easy win for Drake. Did he do that? Nope. He did a lawsuit against the record label (that will probably never pay out) and a statement the comments were untrue.

At this point, with how well the marketing is working on a lot of people (including a few in this topic), it wouldn’t be surprising to see Drake headline the Super Bowl halftime show next year.

When I was little, I used to think wrestling was real. One day when you grow up you’ll understand this “beef” is fake as well.
 
It’s weird how Kendrick fans ignore everything that shows how fake this “beef” is, so they deflect by bringing up other feuds between rappers that nobody else claimed were fraudulent.

The last 10 years the two of them used each other to boost visibility of their new albums. Feuds generate free advertising. Then last year they massively bumped it up. A slam dunk defamation lawsuit against Kendrick would pull the album and be an easy win for Drake. Did he do that? Nope. He did a lawsuit against the record label (that will probably never pay out) and a statement the comments were untrue.

At this point, with how well the marketing is working on a lot of people (including a few in this topic), it wouldn’t be surprising to see Drake headline the Super Bowl halftime show next year.

When I was little, I used to think wrestling was real. One day when you grow up you’ll understand this “beef” is fake as well.
Nothing deflected, just simply stated how you come to the conclusion that thinking it's a real rap beef is somehow ridiculous. Again like I said, it's just music, they are not in the streets trying to kill each other so sure, from that perspective it is "fake". I just don't see how an artist making a song clowning another artist is all of a sudden out of the realm of possibility and therefore has to be faked for popularity. Drake and his team are being called pedos. His last few songs did not chart well after this beef. His UMG lawsuit is claiming the exact opposite of what your saying. He's arguing that they are unfairly boosting the song to hurt his sales and image. Therefore killing any leverage he has in negotiations with his contract. It's "fake" but it's affecting Drakes bottom line? Hell, even DJ Khaled isn't getting Drake features anymore because of this lol

Also the song isn't on his album GNX so why would it be pulled due to a defamation lawsuit?
 
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Idleyes

Gold Member
It’s weird how Kendrick fans ignore everything that shows how fake this “beef” is, so they deflect by bringing up other feuds between rappers that nobody else claimed were fraudulent.

The last 10 years the two of them used each other to boost visibility of their new albums. Feuds generate free advertising. Then last year they massively bumped it up. A slam dunk defamation lawsuit against Kendrick would pull the album and be an easy win for Drake. Did he do that? Nope. He did a lawsuit against the record label (that will probably never pay out) and a statement the comments were untrue.

At this point, with how well the marketing is working on a lot of people (including a few in this topic), it wouldn’t be surprising to see Drake headline the Super Bowl halftime show next year.

When I was little, I used to think wrestling was real. One day when you grow up you’ll understand this “beef” is fake as well.

I see no path to a win. I'm done.
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Idleyes

Gold Member
Honestly, Kendrick’s music just doesn’t do it for me. I would’ve much rather seen some artists I listen to rock the Super Bowl, but l can't lie to myself, their stage presence would’ve been absolute trash. Rappers like Vast Aire from Cannibal Ox, The Last Emperor (not the movie, check out One Life, I like that one), or even Aesop Rock. Fuck If he was still alive, MF DOOM would’ve been legendary. Hell, I’d even settle for Copywrite or old-school, mentally unhinged Cage. Locksmith would’ve killed it. but none of those people have the funds to work such a stage. It would be like someone else said, a bunch of niggas on stage waving white towels.
 
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HRK69

Member
Honestly, Kendrick’s music just doesn’t do it for me. I would’ve much rather seen some artists I listen to rock the Super Bowl, but l can't lie to myself, their stage presence would’ve been absolute trash. Rappers like Vast Aire from Cannibal Ox, The Last Emperor (not the movie, check out One Life, I like that one), or even Aesop Rock. Fuck If he was still alive, MF DOOM would’ve been legendary. Hell, I’d even settle for Copywrite or old-school, mentally unhinged Cage. Locksmith would’ve killed it. but none of those people have the funds to work such a stage. It would be like someone else said, a bunch of niggas on stage waving white towels.
I feel you on wanting your favorites to get that spotlight, but yeah, the Super Bowl stage is a whole different beast

Big budget, mainstream appeal, and all that

Still, imagining a DOOM or old school Cage performance on that stage is wild. It would’ve been legendary in its own right
 

Idleyes

Gold Member
I imagine Cage might have performed on a stage reminiscent of the Korova Milk Bar, incorporating blood, gore, and guest appearances from Necro, possibly even the rest of the Weathermen, depending on the timing of the performance. As for DOOM, I have no idea what he would have done, but I’m certain he would have laced his set with heavy symbolism, sending subliminal messages that show his deep disdain for the industry.

Edit: Granted they had the funds.
 
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