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Dust 514 [PS3/PSVita] (EVE Online FPS/MMO) - Update #2: Art, Info, E3 Trailer, F2P
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Some of the posts on the EVE forums are insane. One Example i've heard repeated is (other than the obvious 'doomed to fail for not being on xbox/pc') :
This kind of stuff takes me back to early this generation.
The gameplay video looked bland, but the possibilities for depth are huge considering the developer. Excited and hoping for a complex MMOFPS. They really needed more info to be revealed there.
This kind of stuff takes me back to early this generation.
The gameplay video looked bland, but the possibilities for depth are huge considering the developer. Excited and hoping for a complex MMOFPS. They really needed more info to be revealed there.
There is 0 chance that bored wealthy EvE players won't be funding the crap out of some Merc groups.fizzelopeguss said:
I'd wager that on Day 1 if you speak Russian someone will be raining ISK on you. Same probably goes for SA and dReddit forum members.
Move/Vita are shoehorned trivialities compared to the complexity involved here. The 'good fights' are typically laggy affairs lasting hours. If they decide to actually create joint ops (live EvE players in orbit providing support) EvE is going to have to fundamentally change. Judging by the closing shot of the preview this may happen.
This game needs a full conference of its own.
EvE succeeds just fine without the WoW crowd. The EvE crowd finds the ideas of spies and ganks fairly appealing.TheSeks said:
â Narayan
Member
Definitely going to happen.Mindlog said:
Unknown Soldier
Member
darkwing said:
Shit would be so real if player fleets would be fighting around a planet while ground forces allied with the fleets were busy fighting on the ground to get control of the planetary doomsday laser, then somebody fires it off and instantly vaporizes half of one fleet and then the remaining players in space get wiped out by the opposing fleet.
I think the idea is fundamentally sound but figuring out how to let the PC/EVE and PS3/DUST players interact with each other to influence each others' outcomes without being laughably imbalancing to one side or the other will be a bitch and two halves. It's already hard enough balancing ONE game in a universe, having TWO simultaneous games going on in a universe will be a logistics nightmare.
ConradCervantes
Banned
Never played any Eve type stuff, but the trailer has me interested.
Jamesfrom818
Banned
Whats going on in the world of EVE anyway? I remember there being a huge war a year ago after a high ranking member from a rival defected to Goonswarm and completely fucked up the rivals territory.
Mindlog said:
*shrug* I'm not a social player. So I guess the idea of MMO funding people to gank someone that works hard to get somewhere and is only in the wrong place at the wrong time doesn't really sound too appealing to me. But that isn't the answer to my question.
As one with no stakes in EVE and doesn't care about the MMO-side of the game, why should they buy the game? The changing sides of the war is interesting, sure, but that's not the main draw of the game.
As a "FPS only" player, I just don't see this being too huge outside of the hardcore EVE crowd.
GitarooMan
Member
This concept is fascinating to me, really interesting in seeing it move forward. Having EVE players fund DUST missions/mercenaries sounds seriously cool.
2 of the last coalitions are fighting... if you want to call it that.Jamesfrom818 said:
The Northern Coalition is getting run over by this.
From an outsider perspective the game is reaching an end-state. They have to address this issue. This stupid fleet is basically unstoppable.
Except by planetary super dommsdays :lol
â Narayan
Member
^ My god, I haven't seen so many Titans in one shot... ever.
Yes indeedy. I have a feeling that mercenaries in Dust are going to be extremely important in how space warfare is done in EVE.Mindlog said:
fizzelopeguss
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@TheSeks
Heh, i don't know. I'm way too much of a pussy to play EvE yet this interests me. I'm not too fond of TF2, brink or that new insomniac game and i don't like call of duty...yet BF3 and this look appealing to me.
To me it looks like a solid team based, vehicle shooter with decent visuals and that slick EvE art direction. The meta game is a cherry topping that looks like it could propel the game to greatness....if it works as intended.
And i'd be very surprised if it's half as hardcore EvE is, that's propably why it's on console(s), to make a more casual game for a new audience rather than build it completely into the EvE engine where there's higher expectations.
Edit: i suppose i'm expecting a more tactical game from the usual FPS fare, but without the absolute cut-throat, razor edge demands of EvE?
Heh, i don't know. I'm way too much of a pussy to play EvE yet this interests me. I'm not too fond of TF2, brink or that new insomniac game and i don't like call of duty...yet BF3 and this look appealing to me.
To me it looks like a solid team based, vehicle shooter with decent visuals and that slick EvE art direction. The meta game is a cherry topping that looks like it could propel the game to greatness....if it works as intended.
And i'd be very surprised if it's half as hardcore EvE is, that's propably why it's on console(s), to make a more casual game for a new audience rather than build it completely into the EvE engine where there's higher expectations.
Edit: i suppose i'm expecting a more tactical game from the usual FPS fare, but without the absolute cut-throat, razor edge demands of EvE?
â Narayan
Member
It's important to note that CCP is only going to release this when they've tested it to Hell and back. No way they're going to release this in an unfinished and clunky state.
â Narayan
Member
Perhaps this will do?TheSeks said:
CCP Zymurgist said:
I'm not sure how much you know already, so I might sound condescending.Shadow780 said:
EVE Online is a spacecraft simulation MMO where players essentially carve out a living in a space and economy run by the players. So much is run by player corporations (guilds) such as mineral mining, piracy, bounty hunting, product crafting and selling. Imagine being a space-age merc hired by these player-run corporations to hinder another's efforts or profits, all with potentially real money being won or lost by the corps. Millions of ISK in currency and galactic territory can change overnight. Now an FPS player's lucky or extremely skilled victory can make this happen for the MMO players.
More PS blog comments
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011...t-514-a-persistent-shooter-from-ccp/#comments
+ James Egan on June 6th, 2011 at 7:56 pm said:
Excellent, glad to hear that. We dont charge for expansions in EVE Online, nor do we plan to charge for DUST 514 expansions. Its how we roll at CCP.
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011...t-514-a-persistent-shooter-from-ccp/#comments
BobTheFork
Member
This sounds outstanding in concept but it's the execution that determines if I play it.
Not sure if mentioned, but not only does it have no monthly fee, according to MCV it'll also be a free download.
i.e. totally free to play.
http://www.mcvuk.com/news/44712/SONY-Dust-514-is-PS3-only
i.e. totally free to play.
http://www.mcvuk.com/news/44712/SONY-Dust-514-is-PS3-only
gofreak said:
well..........I don't know what more needs to be said. Free play for PSV and PS3 gamers?
The PSVita might be a Dust Portable Player for some. Meaning, some might just by it only for Dust and to be part of the Eve Universe. Instead of getting PS3s, I wonder if EVE players would spend $250 for PSV to have sit right on their desk...to duel play, like some have suggested earlier.
OneMoreQuestion
Member
Maybe all the players start out with a bean shooter unless they buy something decent...
PetriP-TNT
Member
The concept itself is amazing, hopefully the game turns out good
Lagspike_exe
Member
Free DLC, free expansions AND F2P? That's one mighty package, even if microtransactions end up being overpowered. Excellent news about PSV compatibility although I think it's a shame PC isn't getting this (for now, at least). PC made CCP what it is today and I'm sort of baffled they aren't going multiplatform, as PC is certainly a viable platofrm for this type of a game.
The_Player
Member
Damn, this guys look just like Caldari. Where the heck are Gallente troops?
Metalmurphy
Member
Why is there a PSVita in the title? What did I miss?
And
"The Dust battlefields will include a Battlefield-style commander system and RTS elements."
GOD YES!
And
"The Dust battlefields will include a Battlefield-style commander system and RTS elements."
GOD YES!
ULTROS!
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Seems like this is the "meltdown of E3" as of now. Last year it was Portal 2 PS3, 2009 it was Kojima at Microsoft's Conference (I think), 2008 it was FFXIII 360.
â Narayan
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DiscoJer said:
Remember, this game has its own currency system. Judging from the trailer, it looks as though Dust will use ISK (InterStellar Kredits), which is the same currency that EVE uses. It may even use Aurum later on. (A new currency that has yet to be implemented into EVE.)OneMoreQuestion said:
This is how it'll probably be: You can earn ISK through your own achievements in the game, through corporate funding, or you can pay real money to be converted into ISK.
BattleMonkey
Member
Man the EVE player base is pretty pissed right now. The EVE FB page... lol