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Dynasty Warriors 7 |OT| - GODDAMIT NOT THIS SHIT AGAIN!
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Necromanti said:
Every game pretty much offers the same rudimentary gameplay. If it's a greater ratio of persistent rewards and mid-battle objectives you desire, then DW5(PS2) and Sam Warriors 3(Wii), are the games to get.
DW7 is addictive, but rather scaled back in terms of 'rewarding' the player with doodads and knickknacks. The battle maps are extremely linear in terms of structure and objectives as well, compared to the above games. It's a simpler and therefore more relaxing experience, one that doesn't shuttle you across maps with stringent objective timers and altering battle conditions, but that is a good thing for some fans.
I personally did not care for Gundam 1's unique brand of progression(both inside and outside battle), and skipped part 2. GAF swears by Gundam 3, but I am hesitant still.
TurboLibre
Member
They need to bring items back into the series. It was always fun after the battle to see what items/upgrades you found and I loved searching for those secret items/4th weapons. It was also a great incentive to play higher difficulties and since they were frequently hidden in the hardest difficulty, it gave me a reason to use a maxed out character.
AdawgDaFAB
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http://www.gamecity.ne.jp/smusou6/dlc/
- Has pics of the brand new nanman stage that came out today as well as the new weapon (Short Ji) and DW4 outfits that comes out next week.
- Has pics of the brand new nanman stage that came out today as well as the new weapon (Short Ji) and DW4 outfits that comes out next week.
AdawgDaFAB
Member
SailorDaravon said:
No added trophies / achievements yet. Most likely won't be unless they make XL or Empires DLC.
Die Squirrel Die
Member
AdawgDaFAB said:
Realistically I wonder what the chances of that happening are? Koei have been pretty good with post-release support for their games this gen, but it's generally been smaller stuff, they've yet to go all out with an expansion sized DLC.
SiegfriedFM
Member
DW7 was supposed to be released in Sweden today but apparently it slipped... again. Is it out in the civilized part of the world?
I'm waiting for someone to do Conquest coop with but if I keep this up I will have finished it myself. I did the Three Kingdoms marathon and won Red Hare at the end, which is awesome.
I'm waiting for someone to do Conquest coop with but if I keep this up I will have finished it myself. I did the Three Kingdoms marathon and won Red Hare at the end, which is awesome.
Igor Antunov
Banned
I was gonna get it but then I saw the price and I didn't get it. Australia and console gaming...it just doesn't work.
AdawgDaFAB
Member
Die Squirrel Die said:
If they do XL I see it being DLC, while Empires being it's own release. That was how they did SW2XL and SW2E on 360. If SW3 itself was already on PS3 then I don't think we would have seen that get a disc release in the form of SW3Z either.
AdawgDaFAB
Member
Free Mode + making the DLC weapons Ex weapons for characters who have clone movesets + mini stories for neglected characters in 7 = Perfect setup for XL. Of if they want, change the mini stories thing to Empires mode and CAW and you have a good setup for Empires as well.
SiegfriedFM
Member
So far I've found that the legendary battles in Conquest are a pretty good alternative to character specific paths. In many cases they'd just pad the story modes way too much, so it's better to have them separate.
Die Squirrel Die
Member
So this may be a silly question but are the DLC costumes from previous games remade, or are they straight model dumps? Also do the newer characters get costumes to balance it out?
AdawgDaFAB
Member
Die Squirrel Die said:
- They are the previous costumes, remade for the game. They look really nice and even change things like Gan Ning going back to his old hair style for his DW 4 and 5 outfits and Liu Bei getting back his facial hair.
- Koei has stated on their Japanese twitter recently that they are working on new outfits for everyone in the game, to come sometime down the line. Right now basically all 46 returning characters will get old outfits and the newbies have to wait. For the DW6 pack, the people not in 6 will get their original MOZ outfits made in the "DW6 style". For the DW4 pack, the people not in 4 will get their 3rd MOZ alt outfits.
Goro Majima
Kitty Genovese Member
I really didn't like the Jin campaign. A number of the battles were starting to become hilariously predictable.
Leader: Go attack the enemy!
My guy: *rides about 2/3rds of the way towards the main guy hacking and killing everything*
Leader: ZOMG reinforcements are heading to our main camp!
It's not fun to have to slowly gallop all the way back to the main camp all the time...
I miss the more complex and "branching" battles of earlier entries where you could actually prevent officers from dying and unlock them that way instead of this whole "yay they lived! oh nvm they got shot by an arrow lulz".
Basically while actual battle strategy was pretty light as it is in earlier iterations, it seems nonexistent in this version.
I still love the weapon switching though. It's great not having to use horrible weapons when you don't want to.
Leader: Go attack the enemy!
My guy: *rides about 2/3rds of the way towards the main guy hacking and killing everything*
Leader: ZOMG reinforcements are heading to our main camp!
It's not fun to have to slowly gallop all the way back to the main camp all the time...
I miss the more complex and "branching" battles of earlier entries where you could actually prevent officers from dying and unlock them that way instead of this whole "yay they lived! oh nvm they got shot by an arrow lulz".
Basically while actual battle strategy was pretty light as it is in earlier iterations, it seems nonexistent in this version.
I still love the weapon switching though. It's great not having to use horrible weapons when you don't want to.
Die Squirrel Die
Member
Bah, characters have growth limits lower than the overall limit, what the fuck. I want full stats.
AdawgDaFAB
Member
Yesh! Koei Japan announced a Great Ax and Sai DLC weapons for May ^___^.
MurkyZebra2417
Member
Finished all 4 campaigns and played a bit conquest mode now.
I think this is the best DW-Game so far.
And the soundtrack of the final Jin battle is too awesome:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MS55Laq5n3U&feature=related
I think this is the best DW-Game so far.
And the soundtrack of the final Jin battle is too awesome:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MS55Laq5n3U&feature=related
A Huge Battleship
Member
Spent far too long playing this recently. Mainly using Wang Yuanji (Knives+Claws) with a side order of Ding Feng (Gloves+Cannon) and Xiao Qiao (Iron Fan+Spinner). Game's a blast, though it has its fair share of flaws which everyone's already pointed out.
Looking forward to the DLC, particularly if it means I can ditch XQ's godawful DW7 outfit.
Looking forward to the DLC, particularly if it means I can ditch XQ's godawful DW7 outfit.
AdawgDaFAB
Member
Marvie_3 said:
Maybe not due to the PSN outage, unless Koei releases the 360 stuff first and then the PS3 stuff when that comes back online.
AdawgDaFAB
Member
New original outfit DLC (paid) was announced for Japan. Preview:
Wolves Evolve
Member
Oh Koei.
AdawgDaFAB
Member
US DLC is up on XBLM:
- Japanese Voice DLC - Free - ~1 GB
- Sanjiang Castle Stage + BGM Pack - 240 Points - 86 MB
- DW1 Zhao Yun, Xiahou Dun, Lu Bu, Diao Chan and Taishi Ci Outfits - 80 Points - 16 MB
- DW6 Outfit Pack - 80 Points - 142 MB
- Bomb + Dagger-Axe Weapon Pack - 160 Points - 16 MB
- Japanese Voice DLC - Free - ~1 GB
- Sanjiang Castle Stage + BGM Pack - 240 Points - 86 MB
- DW1 Zhao Yun, Xiahou Dun, Lu Bu, Diao Chan and Taishi Ci Outfits - 80 Points - 16 MB
- DW6 Outfit Pack - 80 Points - 142 MB
- Bomb + Dagger-Axe Weapon Pack - 160 Points - 16 MB
Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
So wait...the costume and BGM DLC isn't free? Like it was in Japan? And like a Koei rep said it would be?
Welp, that seals the deal. Selling this game ASAP.
Welp, that seals the deal. Selling this game ASAP.
Prophane33
Member
It is pretty bad of Koei to not only charge for stuff that was completely free in Japan, plus we were lead to believe was free in the states, but they also combined the previously free music and the pay to play stages. So now I have to pay for a stage I don't want, to get music I DO want. This move seriously has me questioning any future Koei purchases, and the fact that I own somewhere between 85-90% of the games they've released in the states since the SNES should at least show you how big of a deal this is.
Augemitbutter
Member
Prophane33 said:
you can thank the smart guys paying for previously unlockable content. i'm definitely waiting for the holy bargain bin now.
Attack You
Member
Is it confirmed that the PSN DLC will be paid DLC, too? We've had cases before where XBL had to pay for DLC that PSN didn't.
MurkyZebra2417
Member
And platined just now, 70h playtime, got not boring ^^
SiegfriedFM
Member
I finally finished all the story modes. Thoughts after Wei and Wu:
Just unlocked the Qiaos and Diao Chan in Conquest. Just a few more before I can put this game away.
Wei ended a bit early I felt, but I guess that's because they were hacking off content for Jin. Still got good use out of the characters and everyone got their fair share. Xiahou Dun and Zhang Liao are grade A badasses and Xiahou Yuan was a lot more interesting this time. Hated every second Zhang He was on screen though, except for when he messed with Yuan.
Wu was mostly great and I like Sun Ce a bit more now, never really played him before. Loads of characters went unused though. No Taishi Ci, Zhou Tai or Ding Feng was a bit weak considering especially Ci has been a major character since DW1. Too much Sun Quan - yes, I know they are playable in battles where they actually made a difference but he was hogging the spotlight much more than Cao Cao or Liu Bei.
I also felt that the betrayal of Wu was poorly explained. It was like everyone suddenly started hating Guan Yu's guts and would do anything to kill him. At least in the novel he was arrogant at the end which set up his fall. The lame excuse of "he will even set aside his principles to defend his people" didn't work to explain Quan's motives. But then again maybe Sun Quan was historically a bit of an asshole and they just didn't glorify him all the way this time.
Speaking of which, the Wu ending. Since you never really get it stated that Lian Shi was his wife, the ending comes off weirdly. With him hoisting her up and carrying her towards his troops saying "let's have fun", you start wondering just what kind of fun they're going to have...
Wu was mostly great and I like Sun Ce a bit more now, never really played him before. Loads of characters went unused though. No Taishi Ci, Zhou Tai or Ding Feng was a bit weak considering especially Ci has been a major character since DW1. Too much Sun Quan - yes, I know they are playable in battles where they actually made a difference but he was hogging the spotlight much more than Cao Cao or Liu Bei.
I also felt that the betrayal of Wu was poorly explained. It was like everyone suddenly started hating Guan Yu's guts and would do anything to kill him. At least in the novel he was arrogant at the end which set up his fall. The lame excuse of "he will even set aside his principles to defend his people" didn't work to explain Quan's motives. But then again maybe Sun Quan was historically a bit of an asshole and they just didn't glorify him all the way this time.
Speaking of which, the Wu ending. Since you never really get it stated that Lian Shi was his wife, the ending comes off weirdly. With him hoisting her up and carrying her towards his troops saying "let's have fun", you start wondering just what kind of fun they're going to have...
Just unlocked the Qiaos and Diao Chan in Conquest. Just a few more before I can put this game away.