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apparently we're not hearing the same things. well, im not saying games will be there, but demos.Folder said:
what did you hear?
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what did you hear?
Actually I can't for the love of anything find what seek-time spec for BRD is supposed to be. In the back of my mind I seem to remember spec comparable to that of other discs (100-200ms) but I can't be sure.Johnnyram said:
Anyone got a hard number on this?
That's the standard way to do things on optical discs. Unless of course you're EA and you can sell launch games that have 1minute load times without anyone complaining (or rather, people will blame hardware and everything else BUT you, who's truly responsible for it).DCharlie said:
Anyway what I was getting at is that seeking will send your load times to hell on any kind of optical disc, even the tiny ones like GC or PSP use.
On DVD I'd say rule of thumb to get close to optimal reading performance(max disc transfers) is no more then around 1-seek per 1MB of Raw data loaded. But less is always better with seeking.
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Its okay, Funky Papa already made me sleep my nights better... or something.
Some rumours that are actually plausible. Nice. Although I doubt Xbox 360 will have backwards compatibility, and I doubt that we'll see playable Revolution games. Hell, it was only a few months ago Nintendo didn't even themselves know what form the controller would take.
Capcom being missing from the list of of Revolution developers is pretty conspicuous.
Capcom being missing from the list of of Revolution developers is pretty conspicuous.
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My sources are no way near as good as Blimblim's but I am pretty sure of them for this time =P
A delayed European Xbox 360 release sounds very reasonable. Has any console ever launched at the same time in Europe as in the US? I'm thinking a holiday launch in the US will result in high demand, I don't think MS want to risk running out of consoles just for a simultaneous release in Europe.
Kiriku said:
I believe PS2 launched in Europe within a month of the US launch?
If MS doesn't bag a christmas in Europe, they'll have seriously eroded any headstart on PS3 there (assuming Sony launches in Europe in 2006). The US is still MS's biggest hope, though (Europe is as much Sony country as Japan is, when you look at the numbers), so that should be their priority, but still..I think Europe would be far more "turnable" for MS than Japan.
they don't need many for Europe. 500k units would be fine. Just launch the fucking thing already MS, break the mould (Then maybe Sony and Nintendo will follow suit)
It did seem odd. DCharlie asking a question like that?
DCharlie said:sorry, i meant that as a statement rather than as a question
thanks for the explaination though
It did seem odd. DCharlie asking a question like that?
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DirtyHarry said:
thats because MS bought them out.
mrklaw said:
Well, Sony have already set a precedent of launching in Europe within a short period after the US
Makes one wonder if a simultaneous Japan/US launch for PS3 in fall '06 is feasible..(of course, this WOULD screw over Europe, but the product could benefit
just a pet theory of mine, i kinda doubt it'll happen..).gofreak said:
With severe shortages and an insanely jacked-up price, yeah.
gofreak said:
I thought Xbox was doing pretty well in Europe, although not close to PS2 obviously? With that in mind, wouldn't it be crazy to release both in Europe and the US around x-mas? I fear shortages and crazy prices yet again (in Europe that is).
Kiriku said:
According to the last figures I saw, Sony had 76% of the market in Europe, the rest split between Nintendo and MS (in favour of MS). In Japan, the last figures I saw had Sony with 78% of the market, with the rest split between Nintendo and MS (even more in favour of Nintendo). I was surprised too, but Xbox's "good" performance in Europe seems to be only relative to GC (so in that sense, it is doing better than in Japan, but only at the expense of gamecube, really).
It was reported in MVC that MS wants to ship 1-1.5 million XB360 to Europe in time for the November launch. Like anything the best laid plans are always subject to change but I know the major retailers are reading themselves for a 2005 launch. Anyway here the article.
http://www.mcvuk.com/html/news/story.jsp?newsId=1930545
http://www.mcvuk.com/html/news/story.jsp?newsId=1930545
gofreak said:Makes one wonder if a simultaneous Japan/US launch for PS3 in fall '06 is feasible..(of course, this WOULD screw over Europe, but the product could benefit
er, you aren't thinking PS3 won't be out in Japan until Fall 06 are you? I thought people expected it at Christmas or March 06?
Fall 06 in Japan would mean Europe definitely wouldn't see it until spring 07, which could give MS two christmases, and force me to import a Japanese/US unit, and I'd prefer to go European next gen - mostly due to online reasons and concerns about lockouts.
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gofreak said:
if you can even call it good (relatively speaking) .. isnt the gap between the cube and xbox in Europe smaller than in the US ?
Gofreak, I'm pretty sure that its in the UK where the Xbox has done well (comparitvely speaking). It certaintly has good exposure and shelve space in all the major shops and the bigger shops such as Virgin etc have Xbox setups demoing Xbox Live. But ultimatley PS2 is way in advance of it in terms of sales.
gofreak said:
Wow, OK. I thought Xbox would have a lot more than that, around 15-20 % at least. I reckon the local anecdotal evidence may have influenced me, with people here in Sweden getting Xboxes left and right. And Xbox also appears quite popular here at GAF, but maybe that's because it's an American gaming forum.
But Gamecube surely isn't doing as bad in Europe as Xbox in Japan, right?
mrklaw said:
I think Spring '06 is the earliest you'd see it in Japan.
I'm just saying that if needs be - if things were actually off-track, or if a unified format pushed a delay, or they wanted to really further the distance between themselves and X360 power-wise - it's an option. Japan is a relatively safe bet for Sony, there's nothing pressing about getting PS3 out there (unless they're worried about Rev). I think, from a tech whore perspective, it would be a better option, in that more markets would get more advanced tech as soon as its ready.
I just think it's also interesting that Sony, apparently, is making a push for western content at this stage, simultaneous with Japanese stuff..though that may just be a direct result of learning from the weaknesses of the PS2 launch.
On the flipside of the coin, earlier rumblings out of Nvidia etc. seem to suggest the hardware is on track to be completed by the end of the year, which does suggest a Spring launch. But I don't think the timing necessarily needs to follow that of PS2 like clockwork (PSP has already bucked the trend).
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http://forums.modojo.com/showpost.php?p=2702441&postcount=24
dont know how accurate these are.. but::
dont know how accurate these are.. but::
OtakuBoi said:
quadriplegicjon said:
In terms of marketshare percentage points, yes, the gap is smaller (as I work it out, it's a little less than 6 points in the US, 3 points in Europe).
No, not at all. Like I say, there's about 3 percentage points between them in Europe, in Japan there's 8-9 in Nintendo's favour.
But of course, the volume in the US, and MS's lead over Nintendo there, just about cancels this out (there's about a 1.5% difference between Xbox and GC globally, in favour of xbox).
quadriplegicjon said:
yeah, those are the figures I'm working off. They look right to me, and from what I've checked against official figures they're right (though I didn't check them all).
Cragstar said:
I'm as much a Nintendo fan as anyone else, but as a Nintendo fan I remember thinking in the latter days of the N64's life, pre-GC, that they were using the second half of the N64's life to "build up" to GC too. They were pretty quiet back then too, there was relatively little N64 output from them, but..then we just got Luigi's Mansion (and I really liked Luigi's Mansion, but it was NOT what I was expecting after their lack of output toward the end of the N64's life).
I'm very much "wait and see" with Rev, I'm not getting my hopes up. I'm very open to being blown away though
The GC is Nintendo's first foray into the High tec world of CD's!!!
They are the cartridge kings, and the GC screwed them, Its a whole new way of doing things from cartridges i presume due to load times, loading in game, etc.
But i'm sure with time they'll get better.
(DON'T PHUNK ME I'M NOT TECH SAVVIE!!!!)
They are the cartridge kings, and the GC screwed them, Its a whole new way of doing things from cartridges i presume due to load times, loading in game, etc.
But i'm sure with time they'll get better.
(DON'T PHUNK ME I'M NOT TECH SAVVIE!!!!)
Odnetnin said:
I have.
I'm a bigger N-Bot than the next guy. But its not been Nintys best Gen all round, but still to have a bad innings and still be up there is good for anyone.
M$ have given it their best hit this gen and only just managed to keep their nose in front and next gen should be better for them.
Sony have it ALL to play for next gen as they are the only one's that can lose
Cold-Steel
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Why everybody wants Sony to fail:
1) They are going into next generation with "momentum"
2) They will undoubtedly have the best 3rd party support
3) Their brand (PlayStation) is synonymous with videogames
4) They have the "power" advantage
5) They have eliminated several serious competitors
7) Nintendo and Microsoft fans need to do damage control
8) Because the slightest bit of doom and gloom from Sony camp is a console war victory
9) Because Sony declared the console war over and people are still bitter about it
Live in your world. Play in ours. Sony is going to rock E3.
1) They are going into next generation with "momentum"
2) They will undoubtedly have the best 3rd party support
3) Their brand (PlayStation) is synonymous with videogames
4) They have the "power" advantage
5) They have eliminated several serious competitors
7) Nintendo and Microsoft fans need to do damage control
8) Because the slightest bit of doom and gloom from Sony camp is a console war victory
9) Because Sony declared the console war over and people are still bitter about it
Live in your world. Play in ours. Sony is going to rock E3.
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Pug said:
See number 8.
Don't you know, Sony is doomed!
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LOL.Blimblim said:
Given that the editor of the official Magazine hasn't been told, really dude...
DCharlie
And even i am moderately surprised
i'd like to think that there isn't a single retard who actually wants Sony to "fail", but i'm sure there is someone.
Personally, i just want to see sony feel a little bit of heat. A kick up the arse for them and for them to feel pressured is great for all of us, and ESPECIALLY for Sony fans.
lol - yeah, like we have a choice now!
DCharlie said:
I would agree - I don't want to see a complacent Sony at E3, but something tells me we won't (well, at least if JackFrost/Johnny Nighttrain are correct, there are signs of a competitive spirit..). I do think it's true that a lot of people would LOVE to see Sony trip, though..when you're ahead, you've more people aiming at you.
DCharlie said:
So this HAS been decided/finalised then?
DCharlie
And even i am moderately surprised
"So this HAS been decided/finalised then?
naaa - nothing is _FINAL_ final until the very last moment.
Someone suggested a very -nasty- situation which would really not make Sony very popular, and i doubt they would go down that route... if they do, they will burn in hell.
DCharlie said:
Lol, you know you can't say something like that without further detail...your sewing seeds my friend
I can envisage certain unpopular decisions - I've seen Faf rail against certain suggested scenarios, for example - but nothing quite on the scale you're suggesting.
DCharlie said:
And just when I thought all my loose end rumours were tied up until E3, along comes another.
Lets do a deal - how about you post the rumour after we know what transpires? Half the fun of rumours isn't just what actually happens, but knowing whats going on in the background.