EA Sports Engineer: Wii U is crap, < powerful than 360. No $ 3party. [Tweets Deleted]

OrangeJulius said:
Why wouldn't it? They tried to catch lighting in a bottle twice with the WiiU. A controller gimmick isn't going to sell consoles twice in a row. Most people don't even know the WiiU exists. They think it's an add on for the Wii.

They are not going to make oodles of cash selling tech that 5-8 years old at inflated prices like they did the Wii. It's just not going to happen.

Getting out of hardware would let them focus on what Nintendo does best, make fun games.
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It would also make them lose a ton of the talent that allows them to make fun games.
 
Meier said:
It reflects poorly on his employer and seems to indicate that he isn't intelligent enough to have a senior level position. You never want to publicly burn bridges in an industry like this.
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I'd say this reflects more on his social awareness and interpersonal skills than his intelligence.
 
effzee said:
Again WTF are you talking about? They sold the Wii like hotcakes. Why in the world would Nintendo bail on the hardware business? Its bad right now but they can maybe turn it around enough to remain profitable and at least try for another console in the next cycle before they finally throw their hands up in the air give up and go 3rd party. Nintendo isn't making tons of money but they aren't financially in trouble where they need to abandon their business.
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Again, look at hardware sell rates for the Wii in it's first year, and then look at the WiiU. Then look at Nintendo stock price at it's peak in 2008 and look at it now.

The model they are on is not working, period. The hardware isn't selling and there is no 3rd party support....again.
 
Zyae said:
Theres actual facts for arguing its weaker than a 360. The GPU is better but the CPU is slower and the RAM is 2 gigs as opposed to 512 but is a slower bandwith
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And? Yet NFS Most Wanted looked better than on the other consoles. And that was sadly the only game that wasn't an absolute rush job. When Wii U is clearly weaker than 360 in CPU and RAM ... then why in the world were Criterion able to make a better product (that came out too late ...) ?
If these aspects were so damn slow, i dont think a stronger GPU would be much of a improvement, since in the end there would be some bottlenecks that hinder the GPU from perfoming at full power.

How about we wait, and see what Retro or Platinum deliver on the console? Games that are no rush jobs, built for the console and not just ported over.
 
AGIT&#937;;57981156 said:
So if Wii U sales suddenly go gangbusters, and EA finally decides to release content, how do they expect the games to actually sell after pulling such great PR like this?
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99% of consumers won't know and won't care.
 
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Has this been released yet =P?
 
He won't even get scolded for this.

It can't possibly hurt EA since they aren't making any games for the device he shafted.
 
Has it been confirmed that he really does work for EA and not just someone who posted that on their Twitter bio?

Odd that no one from EA is following him...or at least, none of those I follow.

Sorry if this has been covered in previous pages, but wasn't in the OP. XD
 
(Former) EA Sports Engineer. *sigh*

I hope this guy doesn't lose his job just because he wanted to sound off on Twitter. Too many people in the industry have gone down this road and had it end poorly.

But yeah, I can see where he is coming from. I was interested in jumping into "next gen" with the Wii U but all I saw were games that could purchase on my current consoles, aside from the Nintendo exclusives. And until I see a exclusive that is up there with Galaxy or Wind Waker, I'd rather just save my duckets for whatever MS and Sony are offering next.

Nintendo just failed to sell me (a consumer) on the value of the system and why I should have it in my home. Which is sad, because obviously being no this site, I'm a game enthusiast. I can't only imagine what your average layman feels.
 
Rob Schnoddor said:
And? Yet NFS Most Wanted looked better than on the other consoles. And that was sadly the only game that wasn't an absolute rush job. When Wii U is clearly weaker than 360 in CPU and RAM ... then why in the world were Criterion able to make a better product (that came out too late ...) ?
If these aspects were so damn slow, i dont think a stronger GPU would be much of a improvement, since in the end there would be some bottlenecks that hinder the GPU from perfoming at full power.

How about we wait, and see what Retro or Platinum deliver on the console? Games that are no rush jobs, built for the console and not just ported over.
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Did we ever find out why they had to drop the online player count in Most Wanted?

My money's on the CPU.
 
OrangeJulius said:
Again, look at hardware sell rates for the Wii in it's first year, and then look at the WiiU. Then look at Nintendo stock price at it's peak in 2008 and look at it now.

The model they are on is not working, period. The hardware isn't selling and there is no 3rd party support....again.
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If Nintendo listened to people like you they would have never made the Wii. They would have switched to PS3 and 360. And it would have been a terrible terrible mistake.
 
AGIT&#937;;57981156 said:
So if Wii U sales suddenly go gangbusters, and EA finally decides to release content, how do they expect the games to actually sell after pulling such great PR like this?
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Surprised they haven't put him in a dungeon. Not thinking a console manufacturer's system is powerful enough is one thing but this is plain disrespect. It hurts your company image and degrades the perceived intelligence of your employees. Imagine someone from Apple or Google coming out and saying this. Don't care what position this guy is in, he's just a highly paid troll!
 
GhostTrick said:
Sorry, I made a mistake. I meant Nintendo rejected their Origin thing but also EA deserve it because of that shamefull FIFA port.
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EA always do last gen shoddy ports of their sports games at first, then after a year or two they make a proper game developed for the system this isn't new.

Them not making another Fifa game after releasing a Fifa game on the system is unprecedented.
 
ironcreed said:
Hate on EA all you want, but they have been in this game for a long time. They are not stupid and know a sinking ship when they see one. The Wii U was DOA and it is only going to get worse as this year rolls along. You cannot blame them or anyone else who is avoiding this console like the plague.
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As some have said here, EA has been struggling to get any successes on a Nintendo platform since 2004, since the DS. I can get that after nine years of consistent failures that it's time to cut ties when your company is on the decline, but I really doubt this has to do with writing on the wall. EA as a company should be focusing on platforms where their games sell. I don't mean to make a jaded claim to offend, but that's really with the dudebros and kids with phones. Those markets don't exist in a Nintendo ecosystem, and it shows with how often their games taste the dirt on the ground, as well as games designed for these people severely under-performing. One of Nintendo's biggest strengths is its a platform where platformers tend to shine (Rayman and Sonic sell the most on these platforms than anywhere else) but EA has no platformers. Their portfolio doesn't match the ecosystem for Nintendo.

The writing on the wall is more of the current climate. The west wants phones and higher end machines, and the east wants portables. The Wii U is aptly in the middle, in a marketplace that has no interest for it. EA could cut ties for that, sure, but they should cut ties for the simple fact their games don't have a compelling audience on Nintendo systems to continue the future of such products. They can keep trying, but they'll only keep failing.
 
StuBurns said:
Exactly like if none of this had happened.

Nintendo would never turn EA away if they decided to come back, so EA can say and do whatever it likes.
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Talking from a Consumer basis, I haven't looked at the Miiverse yet, since I'm at work, but I know the last few times, thats where most owners go to vent their rage.
 
ultrazilla said:
Very unprofessional.

Didn't EA's own NFS: MW WiiU prove it's a more powerful system by
featuring the high rez pc textures(something the devs said the ps3/360
could not do?)
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why would that matter? One Dev team at EA cared enough to try while the others just follow the company plan

Criterion should be in more trouble than this guy for going against the grain at EA lol
 
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"Always been crap..." which is why third parties all jumped ship during the NES's life.

All I'll say is that I wouldn't take a software engineer's words on the finance side of things.
 
SmokyDave said:
Again you ignore the fact that all 3rd party software on Wii-U is selling like shit.

Again you ignore that EA always release gimped titles at platform launch, yet they sell well elsewhere.
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But that isn't the case. Sonic Racing, MH3U, Scribbenauts, ZombiU and most of the indie stuff (Trine 2, Nano Assault, Runner2, MSF, The Cave, etc) seem to be doing decently, better than the established PS3/360 bases in some cases even.

EA bombed pretty hard on PS3 and Wii launches back in the day too. 3DS and Vita also. The only systems in recent memory they've done "great" on at the outset were 360 and PSP.
 
If it's not fake - I mean who could mistrust one of Horse Armours Wii U stories? - then he's probably going to be looking for a new job soon.
 
Well, I do think Nintendo made a mistake releasing as system that isn't much more powerful than current gen. Thet tablet controller really isnt a big selling point. To be balanced, EA is pretty terrible. Voted worst company in the US two years running. Quite an achievement.
 
Pseudo_Sam said:
The saddest part of the modern games industry is how many people think that graphical capabilities == system quality. God forbid a company try something new instead of pumping out a third identical CoD machine. It's like everyone wants complete and utter parity amongst everything.
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They took the Nintendo DS and tried to make it a console. They charged too high of a price for a console most people already owned, with more games already invested on those.

Nintendo has learnt the hard way that being Nintendo, and having a new gimmick controller, does not a successful console make. I'm sure they'll recover, but this is very squarely their fault, and not the fault of consumers who are absolutely uninterested in the WiiU.
 
Dany M said:
Why do people think he should be fired? People think it's a given based on what he said but j don't get why.
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I would imagine it just depends on how one views employee responsibility as representatives of a company when speaking publicly. Personally, I don't care either way as I'm not a big EA sports guy or a diehard Nintendo fan who wants retribution for the besmirching of Nintendo's name. But I do understand looking at these comments and seeing grounds for punitive action on the part of higherups at EA just do to the phrasing.

Mind you, some fans will get upset no matter what specifically is said so long as it's negative. After all, many didn't care for the comments made at other branches such as comments made by Dice guys on Twitter. However, no matter what side -- if any -- you're on, it's clear that there's a little bit of difference between their comments that didn't seem to have a lot to praise in regards to the Wii U hardware, and this. Summerwill's comments boil down to pure vitriol. Ignoring the specific players here, they're fairly unprofessional.

Whether or not that's a terminable offense is not for me to decide.
 
This has gone from disgusting to just plain embarrassing.

This guy is not only perpetuating lies hes attacking a company and the people who support them on a personal level.

At this point that EA is without a doubt actively trying to destroy Nintendo they are going beyond juvenile at this point and they think they can flex their muscles and get rid of Nintendo because they are upset with them because lord knows what happened behind the scenes. Something went wrong and EA instead of being an adult and releasing minimal support for the console like always they are throwing a fit and both publicly and privately being just plain disrespectful.
 
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