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Early Access: Darkest Dungeon |OT| Death Is The Only Promise
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Technoweirdo
Member
^ Goddamn, man. I'm already terrified of Lv. 3 quests - the new large enemies hit hard on crits - and yet here you are acting like Lv. 5 bosses are nothing. lol
The bizarre part is that i took down all 3 bosses with same team with out taking them for de-stressing breaks. Just back to back to back.....Hag was the hardest one for sure.....not even her self but dungeon had me at 20-30% of health at all times for all four toons.....damage was just something i could not heal through.....
Secret for me was to B-line to boss room before i buckle under stress/damage.
And yes, they hit like fucking tanks...especially enemy crit can go up to 45 damage on single strike and thou rifle dudes can strike (which they did) my whole team for 11-12 damage.....my jaw hit the floor.
Begaria
Member
Jesus, Varvor. You hit this game hard. I've been trying to play it slowly as to not burn myself out for full release. I've got a bunch of Rank 3 Vets now with Rank 3 skills/gear. I've only taken down the Necromancer Apprentice and Hag (level 1 versions).
Actually, I just finished off the Hag. She really needs a bit more balancing to make it a more fair fight. My key was to take in a Rank 2 Bounty Hunter and Highwayman that had as high skill ranks as they could go for Finish Him and Pistol Shot, on top of the best gear they could muster. I made a beeline for the boss, and RNG was on my side since I scouted every single time I hit a room, and made it to the boss with full health and low stress with really good buffs from camping on my Bounty Hunter. She still killed my Highwayman. I think she should be in the front row so melee and ranged can hit her with the pot in the back, so you can consistently hit her with any kind of attacker, while making ranged important for getting someone out of the pot.
Actually, I just finished off the Hag. She really needs a bit more balancing to make it a more fair fight. My key was to take in a Rank 2 Bounty Hunter and Highwayman that had as high skill ranks as they could go for Finish Him and Pistol Shot, on top of the best gear they could muster. I made a beeline for the boss, and RNG was on my side since I scouted every single time I hit a room, and made it to the boss with full health and low stress with really good buffs from camping on my Bounty Hunter. She still killed my Highwayman. I think she should be in the front row so melee and ranged can hit her with the pot in the back, so you can consistently hit her with any kind of attacker, while making ranged important for getting someone out of the pot.
Lactose_Intolerant
Member
There are melee characters that can hit the 3rd character slot. Hellion, Jester, Bounty can all hit her and 2 of those make her bleed, which she has a low resist. Don't worry about the pot.
Technoweirdo
Member
Things to do list:
Lepers 'n Jesters. Jesters do nothing but singing as the Lepers do nothing but swinging. No rear heals means fun times as you try to boost everyone's speed, accuracy, and crit rate before you get hurt and more fun times as the Lepers go berserk.
Not too mindful of enemy musketeers pulling that off as you can camp to recover, but large enemies being able to bring a party member to Death's Door in a single move is a little extreme. Figure they need a damage reduction.
Might've been in a patch? I only noticed that recently myself and that they get different pricing.
Lepers 'n Jesters. Jesters do nothing but singing as the Lepers do nothing but swinging. No rear heals means fun times as you try to boost everyone's speed, accuracy, and crit rate before you get hurt and more fun times as the Lepers go berserk.
Not too mindful of enemy musketeers pulling that off as you can camp to recover, but large enemies being able to bring a party member to Death's Door in a single move is a little extreme. Figure they need a damage reduction.
Might've been in a patch? I only noticed that recently myself and that they get different pricing.
Professor Lich
Member
What's better to upgrade, skills or weapons/armor? In my mind the latter would be more important first.
Also, my second run has been going quite a bit better than the last. Can't wait to get one of each class and to start expirmenenting with mixes of abilities.
Edit: Also, having a good outcome from over stressing a hero is probably the hypest thing for me right now. Just feels so awesome.
Also, my second run has been going quite a bit better than the last. Can't wait to get one of each class and to start expirmenenting with mixes of abilities.
Edit: Also, having a good outcome from over stressing a hero is probably the hypest thing for me right now. Just feels so awesome.
I go by this order for upgrades:
healing skills/buffs > armor > combat skills > weapons
healing skills cause your healer/buffer should be good at healing. Some buff skills quickly gain a LOT more, like "Battle ballad" on the Jester with just one upgrade is way better.
Armor cause it gives you dodge and max HP.
Combat skills cause having increased accuracy means more hits means more damage.
And weapons for more damage when you hit.
Technoweirdo
Member
"Heal? What's a heal?" - Me, (barely) taking down the Swine King sans support characters
Early on, most high-offense characters are accurate enough such that they don't need to refine their swinging skills. However, their weapons are junk. Making sure they end an enemy in one swing as opposed to two will save you a lot of grief. For most, upgrading the weapon will also grant a speed boost which may mean ending an enemy before they even move.
Meanwhile, support characters (Jester, Vestal, Occultist) and the Leper will want to upgrade their skills as early as possible. The first three will provide better support while the Leper will be able to hit something for once.
Whichever's first, armor up second. Protect your investment 'cause bullcrits do happen. The increase in health will give all your characters a little extra breathing room in case something goes wrong -- and that will happen often.
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Once you start doing Lv. 3 quests though, swap the order and prioritze armor over everything else. You will get hurt and you will die against the new monsters if you don't have armor. They hit hard and can take a beating themselves.
Early on, most high-offense characters are accurate enough such that they don't need to refine their swinging skills. However, their weapons are junk. Making sure they end an enemy in one swing as opposed to two will save you a lot of grief. For most, upgrading the weapon will also grant a speed boost which may mean ending an enemy before they even move.
Meanwhile, support characters (Jester, Vestal, Occultist) and the Leper will want to upgrade their skills as early as possible. The first three will provide better support while the Leper will be able to hit something for once.
Whichever's first, armor up second. Protect your investment 'cause bullcrits do happen. The increase in health will give all your characters a little extra breathing room in case something goes wrong -- and that will happen often.
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Once you start doing Lv. 3 quests though, swap the order and prioritze armor over everything else. You will get hurt and you will die against the new monsters if you don't have armor. They hit hard and can take a beating themselves.
tim_pkmn89
Member
What about casual purposes?Necromancer Lord (lvl 5) is down, on to next ones!
EDIT: Swine God is Down (lvl 5)
EDIT2: So was The Hag (lvl 5)
For all intensive purposes i have beaten the game in its current form....all is left is to level up all classes to 6, but not gonna bother with that.
Ask me anything
lol no casuals are permitted here. Game is not made for them....will buckle under the stress and become fearful.
Yeah no, typical they get few good shots on me...especially when i had them Crit 11 damaged and hit me on average from 3-5 per blanket shot....keep in mind it was two of them...in the back....with dagger and taskmaster (big one) in the front.....that was the point where damage was just to much to heal through...even with camp i went in to hag fight with 2/3 health on all 4 toons.
I def went balls deep with this game, when it comes to boss fight with only exception of Necro, bleed is super effective...i had hag take 12....12!!! damage from bleed in one instance...that's from 200 HP but still good chunk on top of continues stream of damage. Furthermore...if you get some one in the pot, just ignore them....keep pushing The Hag....pot will spit them out once they reach 0HP. Since she does damage twice per turn she will take damage from bleed twice
.HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
lol no casuals are permitted here. Game is not made for them....will buckle under the stress and become fearful.
My casual brother loves it.
I am pretty casual and I am doing fine.lol no casuals are permitted here. Game is not made for them....will buckle under the stress and become fearful.
My friend who is not casual at all got broken by the game and has uninstalled it claiming it is "a waste of money" and "a horribly broken piece of shit"
Impatient, unadaptable people will have trouble to like it.
Well he lasted about 1-2 hours so I guess he at least gave it a try!
AkelisRain
Member
Check out @giocorsi's Tweet: https://twitter.com/giocorsi/status/564156830100635648?s=09
Hmm, nice that it's coming to PS4, but am I missing something or was that not really related to my post?
I think he wants to say "The game will have legs cause it comes to multiple systems"
AkelisRain
Member
Yeah this, was on mobile and was going to return and edit my post but didn't want to lose my train of thought. Sorry :/
Confidence is the slow killer, or whatever. Just lost my Occultist to the hag because she is guarded by a big damn pot. The crusader is practically useless and the highwayman can only shoot. Didn't see that coming! This was my elite crew, too. All level 2+, all with 2nd level skills and gear. RIP.
A crusader against the hag is good to A) Kill the pot if you want to B) do some light healing/stress healing or C) with Holy Lance equipped and a Grave Robber/Jester/Highwayman he can hit the hag while switching places with the robber constantly.
My party was vendal / occultist / highwayman / crusader, with the last two mostly healing and the first two mostly hitting. Crusader only had the attack with +undead and could not hit the witch. I was stuck shooting her with the highwayman and not using the occultist heal so he could knife attack. Sub optimal!
Technoweirdo
Member
Tempted to try running during the Hag fight, see if your crew'll remember to pull out their teammate as they run in the event things go south. However, all 20 of my crew are Lv. 3 and I don't wanna train another. >.>
Right, forgot you did Lv. 5 quests. lol Still on Lv. 3 quests and will be there for quite some time since I've got a lot of people - two of every class - to train and a lot of heirlooms that need to be reclaimed.
Right, forgot you did Lv. 5 quests. lol Still on Lv. 3 quests and will be there for quite some time since I've got a lot of people - two of every class - to train and a lot of heirlooms that need to be reclaimed.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
And when I say casual, I mean "casual".
I don't like to attribute that type of shit to people.
I don't like to attribute that type of shit to people.
Thats exactly what a filthy casual would say
Unholy filth!
RIP
When it comes to Hag fight, best Crusader is in The Pot Crusader
His massive health pool which buys much time while you pounce on the boss. Dont forget bleed.
We've gotten this feedback about both midlevel and high level dungeons. Expect tuning changes, enjoy the roflstomping while you can
Source: http://steamcommunity.com/app/262060/discussions/2/612823460265341221/
The game can be pretty casual friendly, if they're not one to stress about dying. Low-light, low-provision suicide runs are so ridiculously, out-of-proportion profitable that somebody grinding them out for a few hours will have a bonkers gold-and-upgrade pool to really start progressing with.
Ask me anything
What did you clock in at hour wise? Must be close to > 50
terrdactycalsrock
Member
I only have 950 gold left, I cant even buy proper supplies. Should I just start all over? It seems like a bad situation
just make a suicide squad from new recruits in the carriage, back when things get dangerous, get some money.
terrdactycalsrock
Member
Good idea. Im getting use to the combat, Im not terrified of every single encounter anymore. This game is overflowing with game mechanics and that can be overwhelming. Im enjoying it a lot despite that though
Same
It's early Access. I think there's a very good chance that it will be upgraded eventually.
But, yeah, progression is the main area the game needs work on, along with balance/difficulty curve.
Honestly, I think you should get some rations and torches for free in each dungeon. That would help discourage the low-light suicide runs when you're out of money.
I have no idea. They just appeared there after I finished a dungeon, they were extra. Is this a bug?Wait,how did you put torches in your trinket inventory
[Edit:] Nevermind it, it's most probably a bug. These dudes on Steam seem to think so, as well. I'll report it on the dev's forums.
I do not think that we are going to get more bosses except 2 more from next 2 dungeons. The game is only 20 buck and they afford a lot already.
Anyway, no light run is more fun than you think
try to use the steam forums. The dev seem to respond on those.
Begaria
Member
I'm making some actual progress into the game now. I finished off The Hag (Rank 3), and I just now killed the Necromancer (Rank 3). That was a god damn good run to on the Necro:
When I was going through the Necromancer run, I did a combination of low light and high light for efficient treasure hunting while also keeping health up and stress down. It was an unbelievable run with several lucky RNG rolls on my side. I got surprised in one room, but one of my party member's turns came up first, in which I ran, maxed my light, went back in, and surprised them instead. I camped right outside the boss' door and got ambushed AND surprised during the night, but every enemy missed their attacks on their surprise round.
My best team all has Rank 4 skills, are Rank 4 themselves, have Rank 4 armor, and Rank 3 weapons. Working on getting those weapon upgrades.
When I was going through the Necromancer run, I did a combination of low light and high light for efficient treasure hunting while also keeping health up and stress down. It was an unbelievable run with several lucky RNG rolls on my side. I got surprised in one room, but one of my party member's turns came up first, in which I ran, maxed my light, went back in, and surprised them instead. I camped right outside the boss' door and got ambushed AND surprised during the night, but every enemy missed their attacks on their surprise round.
My best team all has Rank 4 skills, are Rank 4 themselves, have Rank 4 armor, and Rank 3 weapons. Working on getting those weapon upgrades.
