It doesn't have to, because it can run GC games natively, thanks to being descended from the Wii (and thus Gamecube) hardware. This has already been proven by homebrew for Wii mode that runs Gamecube games.
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EarthBound |OT| Look at the sun. Face the sun and smile.
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Yes, and? That would be the hardware emulation/backwards compatibility bit which is ultimately useless since you have no control inputs our options to save the game as I mentioned.
Are you just saying that because Wii U is a new machine? I think the raw clockspeeds might be an issue here.
But let's not get too off-track as we're all just speculating.
RockmanWhore
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It's such a shame that the Wii U can't read GC dics, and I feel like the main reason it doesn't is too save a few bucks by not including all these GC controllers and memory card slots :-(
SpoonyBard
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It could be a raw clockspeed issue it the architecture was different. But now the CPU is based on the same design and and the GPU can handle the Gamecube stuff without any problems, so emulating or recompiling the old Gamecube games to Wii U (in Wii U mode) shouldn't be much of a problem.
It sure would be awesome. Off-TV is something I kinda want for every game even though I never have to share my TV. And especially older games look awesome on there.
Interceptor
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Running GC games natively would be possible. The launcher for the game just has to start wiimode in the background without the user noticing it. The problem is the transition back since the Wii U would have to do a full restart - also no Wii U menus would be avaiable and of course no gamepad integration (maybe just the buttons but no streaming). Why? Because the Wii/GC mode is strictly sperated to prevent piracy.
Help out Apple Kid and Orange Kid.
MikeXXIeaf
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Silly question but is this presented in fullscreen of in a box display? I've yet to see or play a VC game on Wii U and I'm curious.
SpoonyBard
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Full screen, but not stretched to fill widescreen display, so there are black bars on the sides.
Yeah, the same image is displayed both on TV and the screen.
Just got Paula and I'm having a good bit of trouble keeping her alive, I just got to Threed but she is only like 5 levels (level 15) behind Ness and still dies in 2-3 hits. I can keep making her defend but then I might as well leave her dead. She has the best equipment I can buy in Threed. I know I still need to level her up a bunch, but her stat-ups seem like trash compared to Ness, even in her specialty stats, she is gaining PP faster but I assume IQ is PSI-damage, and she is not getting too much more of that.
Was Nintendo Power around at the time? We could always ask Phil Theobald if he can remember how they reviewed it.
Nintendo power really tried to push the game. Not only did the instruction manual come as a guide and creatd by them, they had multiple articles on the game not just one spotlight article and done.
I found this great new Wired article while looking for an answer on Google:
http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2013/07/marcus-lindblom-earthbound/
It's an interview with Marcus Lindblom, who translated and re-wrote the games text from Japanese to English.
Fantastic read for fans.
http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2013/07/marcus-lindblom-earthbound/
It's an interview with Marcus Lindblom, who translated and re-wrote the games text from Japanese to English.
Retro graphics have aged so well, it's funny to read that today.
Fantastic read for fans.
Wow!!!
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I think I just broke my game haha
I saved using his dad on the phone, I take it I can't do that and should just stick to the Restore Points.Yeah there's multiple reasons why Earthbound didn't do so well. One of the biggest was the late release and not so much interest in JRPGs by the mass market. It's also a tough sell for some people who were at the time more interested in traditional sword and sorceries RPGs.
I have a friend who refuses to even acknowledge the game because he quote "Won't ever play a stupid game with a stupid kid who wears a backpack and baseball cap" which also extends to Pokemon.
Some people can't get off that "stigma".
Nintendo also had a really horrible marketing campaign for it. For some reason in the mid-90s NOA had really awful advertising, I guess to combat the "Sega Extreme" marketing they tried to go the "gross out" route, as evidenced by really shitty Nintendo Power ads with the Meatloaf or Toenail clippings and crap like that. Earthbound's magazine ad literaly had it say "This Game Stinks!" and put scratch and sniff with horrible smells. Like the game was Boogerman. They tried to sell it to the Beavis and Butthead crowd and its really not a game like that at all.
Then again, if they had marketed it as a Heartfelt trip that saved the world by the power of love and Nostalgia, I dunno how that would have sold. 90s was a weird time, gaming in the US was marketed towards action and honestly anectdotally selling Earthbound on my friends was a really tough sell in high school. I used to get really weird responses when people tried for me to explain the game, and then showing them they'd say "Thats It?" and dismiss it.
Gamepro was much the same.
"The lack of a convincing story line and the dull NES-clone graphics will make serious RPG fans a little cautious about Earthbound."
They rated the challenge level as Beginner!
Gamepro was always a laughably bad magazine though. I remember them giving Xenogears some insane low score that pissed off the entire internet gaming community at the time.
The thing is, magazines and what gamers were looking for weren't very different back then from what they are today. Games were supposed to have eye-popping technically sophisticated graphics and dark and gritty stories. They just weren't played in first-person like today's big dogs.
That's a great interview, thanks for sharing.
Hey guys! Sorry for the shameless plug but I recently had the opportunity to interview Marcus Lindblom, who was the localization director on EarthBound. I think you guys will find the article really interesting!
www.wired.com/gamelife/2013/07/marcus-lindblom-earthbound/
edit: Whoops, it was just posted above! That'll teach me to look a few posts up before I post something.
www.wired.com/gamelife/2013/07/marcus-lindblom-earthbound/
edit: Whoops, it was just posted above! That'll teach me to look a few posts up before I post something.
Wow!!!
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I think I just broke my game haha
oO? Of course you can. Hard saves work in any VC title. Restore points are an extra feature you can use on top of that. You have to use the "reset" feature in the VC menu to emulate turning the power off on the old console (or well, pushing the reset button^^).
malingenie
Member
Great read!
PSI damage/healing is set for each move--it's not influenced by stats. IQ determines max PP. Buy a teddy bear if you can to soak up the damage while Paula levels up a bit more. Her more powerful and efficient PSI really comes in handy.
One thing to note is that just in general, enemies can wipe out your HP faster in this game than in other RPGs so you've got heal fast and heal early.
Don't forget about Ness's PSI Shield, too.
I had already donated 200 each...I suppose I just wait now?
You go back and check the statue, then on your way back to Twoson he'll call you.
Pretty stupid moment, the designers expected you to invest in the inventors before leaving the town I guess.
The first time I played the game, I got stuck and had to return it here. I had invested in the inventors, but every time I reached the statue, I just turned back to town without checking it. If you don't check it, you never get a call...
Ah, crap. I already sent the phone back for storage. I'll have to make a call.
lol, what, you saw a statue of a pencil and thought "well, obviously. No need to investigate this, I'll just head back"?
Kind of a bad oversight, but at least that's the only one I can think of in the game, and Miiverse should ensure people don't need to get stuck.
Keep that receiver phone on you, you'll need it later.
Yes, it's one of the hardest if not the hardest area in the game. I think Mobile Sprouts are the best for exp. If you have a lot of cash you can buy some teddy bears, although Territorial Oak explosions will destroy them instantly so you should run from them. IIRC Spinning Robos appear mostly with Lil' UFOs... kill the robo first. Don't miss the Hard Hat. Cross the bridge and take the left path to find it.
Yep XD
I guess I was a weird kid. The statue was funny to me, but I saw no reason to check it out - it was obviously a huge statue that I wasn't getting through! After that, I never really had a problem.
Peaceful Rest Valley is very difficult. Teddy Bears are a good investment.
No, just Wii U.
Ahahaha gotta love that "yes, and?" Lol. Are you sure there are no control inputs or options to save the game? Guess you missed the news about Devolution?
If homebrew can do it I'm sure Nintendo could somehow manage (though they might take their sweet time, lol).
Wow, gotta read this!
Edit: Not sure what you're trying to argue about below? It's pretty clear that GC via Wii mode in Wii U is possible, controllers, memory cards, and all but using the physical disc. When I mentioned homebrew you said it was completely useless because of this but obviously didn't know it had already been done. At least we agree that what Nintendo does with that possibility is up to them though... *shrug*
What the homebrew scene does and what Nintendo does are two completely different things. Homebrew also has a PSOne or DOSbox emulator on Wii, for example.
The fact that Wii Mode exists suggests that they are set in the way they approach their legacy system compatiblity. And yes, I read the devolution thread (admittedly after posting this). This has zero bearing on future GCN VC support. We knew it was technically possible before this.
Again, back to Earthbound.
One thing I like is how the in-fiction logic works. Item drops from enemies specifically. Crows drop an item. What is it? A cookie. Shark gang members drop what? Hamburgers. Why? Because a bird is more likely to have maybe snatched a cookie from somewhere (it actually is one of its attacks!) and a human thug enemy is more likely to carry around a hamburger. Amazing!
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Came back from vacation today, this happened:
Loving it so far! Adorable
Loving it so far! Adorable
I defeated
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I have no idea how to describe my experience with Earthbound so far. All I can say is that the OST, similar to AC New Leaf, are lovely experiences. I love the song whenever you level up. And I also love the song you listen to when you
. I liked it so much that this morning I downloaded this remix album from a while back from several OCReMix regulars at the time (Bound Together) and I had to listen to Kaijin's track. So good. So stronk. So godlike.
the titanic ant
I have no idea how to describe my experience with Earthbound so far. All I can say is that the OST, similar to AC New Leaf, are lovely experiences. I love the song whenever you level up. And I also love the song you listen to when you
learn the sound from giant step