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Easy Allies |EZOT| Good Vibes and Good Hype

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MrMette

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I hope it doesn't crush too many dreams - but sometimes I think those werehogs they keep handing around aren't even real.
The thing is that I wouldn't have been bothered by it if this bet was for werehogs (and he was cheating/finding loopholes or whatever you want to call it to get those).
But again, let's all agree to disagree and enjoy EZAs other wonderful content without being at each others troat.
 
Hey Melon, sorry if I misinterpreted the intent of your words.

(There is 5 pages on this topic and I'm catching up.) But, I did mention contract law and past bets vs expectations in my orginal post and said nothing of the negatively of video game culture. So, I guess I'm not sure where you think I'm overracting?

People did get a bit silly over a bet. And that was what my post was commenting on.
 

adixon

Member
The best wouldn't lose the bets to begin wtih. Slusser Cup is still in Huber's hands, Bosman is playing with fire.

Plus. Kyle still has to survive the council of nine.
The ninth is Sophie.

*edit*
Yeah, sorry if you didn't mean to sound harsh, melon. What I wanted to say is that dogpiling on the thread with angry words like "shameful, ridiculous" and the ever-popular "entitled" might not help the overall tone of the discussion, which I was enjoying at that point.
 

Zomba13

Member
I look forward to future betting specials with real men like Huber and Ben. Ben seems like he'd be a good, honourable sport who wouldn't welch on his bets like a certain funny person does.

Bosman shouldn't get a shot at the Slusser again.
 

Tankard

Member
I look forward to future betting specials with real men like Huber and Ben. Ben seems like he'd be a good, honourable sport who wouldn't welch on his bets like a certain funny person does.

Bosman shouldn't get a shot at the Slusser again.

Whoa whoa whoa, no personal attacks dude, don't go there.
 

LewieP

Member
One thing his dishonorable stream did prove is how much better LTTP is than Skyward Sword.

The LTTP stream was several dungeons deep before Kyle had even made it through the SS tutorial.
 

jett

D-Member
He avoids playing ALTTP to play the trash that is Skyward Sword.

That's the real troll.

Honestly, it's kinda funny that he finds these loopholes and shit, but in the end he comes off as being kinda scummy. I really like his betting specials with Huber, but it's kinda pointless if he's just gonna bullshit his way through every time he loses. When Huber lost he played his flute concerto without any shenanigans.
 

Zomba13

Member
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

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Wow. Taking it too seriously. They should just relax. It's a joke man. Don't they get it?
 

BowieZ

Banned
One thing his dishonorable stream did prove is how much better LTTP is than Skyward Sword.

The LTTP stream was several dungeons deep before Kyle had even made it through the SS tutorial.
Yeah although in fairness he spent far longer there than he needed to... because he loves it so much, and rightly so... because the intro is (IMO) a very enjoyable intro to the Zelda timeline with fun characters and well designed exposition.
 

Zomba13

Member
Whoa whoa whoa, no personal attacks dude, don't go there.

What? I wasn't calling him a little bitch or jackass like some people have. I was using it as a joke, saying that Huber and Ben are fine manly men specimens, like noble Samurai who respect the bushido code of honour and all that (you know, like how Huber is 3/4 Viking and Ben is basically a Japanese Husbando).

People need to chill a bit.

They're joking too

holy shit some of the people in this thread smh

unless you're joking as well :eek:

smugkyle.jpg or .gif or .png
 
Kyle Bosman should be kicked out of Easy Allies quite frankly. Any man who can't honour a bet is no man at all, and the discord amongst the community that his despicable trolling behaviour has caused lately leads me to believe that he doesn't adhere to the same love and respect mantra that the rest of the crew lives by and promotes on a regular basis. He's obviously not a team player, but rather someone who revels in conflict formed by his own petty actions, and I think it's high time he bid farewell to the team, for the good of us all.

Let the Easy Allies continue to be just that - easy allies.
 

Burt

Member
Kyle Bosman should be kicked out of Easy Allies quite frankly. Any man who can't honour a bet is no man at all, and the discord amongst the community that his despicable trolling behaviour has caused lately leads me to believe that he doesn't adhere to the same love and respect mantra that the rest of the crew lives by and promotes on a regular basis. He's obviously not a team player, but rather someone who revels in conflict formed by his own petty actions, and I think it's high time he bid farewell to the team, for the good of us all.

Let the Easy Allies continue to be just that - easy allies.

4.5 stars
 

Pappasman

Member
He avoids playing ALTTP to play the trash that is Skyward Sword.

That's the real troll.

Honestly, it's kinda funny that he finds these loopholes and shit, but in the end he comes off as being kinda scummy. I really like his betting specials with Huber, but it's kinda pointless if he's just gonna bullshit his way through every time he loses. When Huber lost he played his flute concerto without any shenanigans.
Yeah, at least with the standup he actually delivered the jokes himself. This is like putting on a netflix standup special and reading a book in the background. I don't really find the betting games that appealing or fun anymore if this kind of stuff is going to keep happening.
 

Lexad

Member
Getting into more detail of why I don't like what Kyle did:

I support EZA because I like the guys and the content that they produce. I supported their Twitch channel, because I enjoy their dedication to making their own content on Twitch. What Kyle did was not any of that. He randomly grabbed someone's Charity Speed Run playthrough, which is a ton of effort and hard work, and threw it up as his playthrough stream just to troll. That's really scummy, especially since that charity event is going on *right now*.

If he had gotten explicit permission from someone to restream their work as part of his joke or re-used GT/EZA content that would be different, but I found the way that he did what he did and his trolling to be really gross. I don't find randomly re-using other people's work just to screw with your own audience and co-worker to be an okay thing to do. That's not what I consider "Fair Use", I don't view it as Parody or Commentary, and it felt really bad.

He was pimping the Charity moments after the SGDQ video flashed up
 

Lexad

Member
It's probably difficult to shake those feelings and gets even harder when people are trying to tell you you're wrong but trying to explain it away might be rather futile and lead to unneccessary arguments and posts.

I'm sure you realize that Kyle didn't really have any ill or malicious intentions, no real harm was done, it was just innocent goofing off.

Hopefully the council will determine a fitting punishment for him, the people want blood!

Judge Blood
 

Zomba13

Member
What? I am completely serious, I don't understand what's happening.

Kyle was supposed to stream A Link to the Past because he lost the E3 betting special against Huber but instead he's been blowing it off. He played less than 5 minutes in the first stream and in the next one just ran a speed run in the corner while he played the intro to Skyward Sword instead. He only has 3 chances/streams to fulfil the bet and hasn't given it an honest try yet. Some people are annoyed at this, some people think it's funny and like it, some people think it's funny but are disappointed because they wanted to see Kyle actually play through it and give his reasons for why he hates it so much.
 

luchadork

Member
What? I am completely serious, I don't understand what's happening.

bosman tried to weasel his way out of his bet. some people didnt think it was _that_ funny. other people think that a few people saying it wasnt _that_ funny is them playing right into a masterful troll. unclear if they think bosman is funny or if trolling people is funny or both. any discussion is now being shut down by hyperbole from both sides.
 

SeanTSC

Member
He was pimping the Charity moments after the SGDQ video flashed up

Again, "giving them credit" doesn't make what he did okay for me. He was supposed to be doing his own playthrough of ALTTP, but instead he randomly took someone else's work off of youtube and put it up for his run. That's not making your own content. I supported them on Twitch for their own content on it. Playing Skyward Sword over it doesn't make it him making his own content either when it was supposed to be an ALTTP run. The whole thing was just really gross, doubly so since an ongoing charity that takes an immense amount of work was involved while he just haphazardly threw up their work on his stream.
 

MrMette

Member
Kyle Bosman should be kicked out of Easy Allies quite frankly. Any man who can't honour a bet is no man at all, and the discord amongst the community that his despicable trolling behaviour has caused lately leads me to believe that he doesn't adhere to the same love and respect mantra that the rest of the crew lives by and promotes on a regular basis. He's obviously not a team player, but rather someone who revels in conflict formed by his own petty actions, and I think it's high time he bid farewell to the team, for the good of us all.

Let the Easy Allies continue to be just that - easy allies.

While I do agree his not honoring the bet how it was inteded is not respectful to Huber (and it does show him as a non-teamplayer), I wouldn't go so far as kicking him out. I do agree that a lot of people in this thread have become uneasy allies because of this (which is not really how EZA was inteded at all).
 

Giever

Member
What? I am completely serious, I don't understand what's happening.

Kyle lost the E3 bets showdown, here's the contract he signed (ridiculous for them to do a contract, but it's because Kyle kept weaseling out of bets):

I, Kyle Bosman, agree to the terms set forth within this document, in regards to the proposed stakes outlined by Michael Patrick Huber during the Easy Allies E3 Bets Showdown.

I will stream LIVE, a complete full playthrough of The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past, from a new save slot to the ending credits on Easy Allies' Twitch page in no more than 3 sessions. Finishing no later than July 8th, 2016. 3 minutes prior to each stream, I will tweet, from my own personal twitter account @KyleBosman, the following quote with no less and no more words or symbols attached, "I'm about to stream my favorite game of all time, The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past. #masterpiece". Upon full completion of the game, I will discuss my favorite parts of the game for no less than 3 minutes on Huber Syndrome.

Signed,
Kyle Bosman

For his first stream he just played for about 2 minutes then quit, saying he couldn't take any more. For his second stream he streamed someone else's play-through of ALttP because it arguably fits within the specific wording of the contract. He only has one session left if he's going to honor the spirit (or arguably even the actual terms) of the contract, and everyone's freaking out. Some people are annoyed that Bosman keeps trolling, some people are happy that people are annoyed, etc., etc. We don't know what's going to happen yet with a third stream or a supposed council/trial or something that Bloodworth apparently mentioned on twitter. That's about it.

While I do agree his not honoring the bet how it was inteded is not respectful to Huber (and it does show him as a non-teamplayer), I wouldn't go so far as kicking him out. I do agree that a lot of people in this thread have become uneasy allies because of this (which is not really how EZA was inteded at all).

I think that one is obviously a joke, man.
 

MrMette

Member
Mhmm. What I'm learning here is that some people are really defensive of A Link to the Past.

I don't care about A Link to the Past to be honest, I just think if you bet something you should do your best to keep that bet (and he knows very well how it is intended).

The streams are funny, but a real man honors his bets. That said, I usually really like Kyle and most of the content he produces, so no big whoop.
 

Naythan

Member
Again, "giving them credit" doesn't make what he did okay for me. He was supposed to be doing his own playthrough of ALTTP, but instead he randomly took someone else's work off of youtube and put it up for his run. That's not making your own content. I supported them on Twitch for their own content on it. Playing Skyward Sword over it doesn't make it him making his own content either when it was supposed to be an ALTTP run. The whole thing was just really gross, doubly so since an ongoing charity that takes an immense amount of work was involved while he just haphazardly threw up their work on his stream.

Yeah, we get it. It seems like you're trying to make this a thing for other people and that isn't going to happen. It's fine if you think it's "gross" but it seems like you're the only person THAT offended by it.
 

Axass

Member
Kyle Bosman should be kicked out of Easy Allies quite frankly. Any man who can't honour a bet is no man at all, and the discord amongst the community that his despicable trolling behaviour has caused lately leads me to believe that he doesn't adhere to the same love and respect mantra that the rest of the crew lives by and promotes on a regular basis. He's obviously not a team player, but rather someone who revels in conflict formed by his own petty actions, and I think it's high time he bid farewell to the team, for the good of us all.

Let the Easy Allies continue to be just that - easy allies.

You're too lenient.

Quite frankly, I'd also ban him from Twitch, due to his shameful behaviour.
 

ArjanN

Member
bosman tried to weasel his way out of his bet. some people didnt think it was _that_ funny. other people think that a few people saying it wasnt _that_ funny is them playing right into a masterful troll. unclear if they think bosman is funny or if trolling people is funny or both. any discussion is now being shut down by hyperbole from both sides.

Pretty much. Also, there were like maybe two people actually mad about it and everyone else was just playing along with the bit.
 

wiibomb

Member
You're too lenient.

Quite frankly, I'd also ban him from Twitch, due to his shameful behaviour.

I say ban him for 2 months from EZA content..

I am a patron and I feel entitled to ask for it

huge sarcasm levels for anyone believing it
 

LewieP

Member
It's plain for all to see that Kyle should be kicked out of Easy Allies, but why draw the line there? I don't think that's going far enough.

Do we have any legal experts in here that might be able to suggest whether this bet welching would be enough to be considered treason towards the United States of American in a court of law. I'm wondering whether being permanently banished is the most appropriate punishment, or perhaps some serious jailtime?
 

Burt

Member
It's plain for all to see that Kyle should be kicked out of Easy Allies, but why draw the line there? I don't think that's going far enough.

Do we have any legal experts in here that might be able to suggest whether this bet welching would be enough to be considered treason towards the United States of American in a court of law. I'm wondering whether being permanently banished is the most appropriate punishment, or perhaps some serious jailtime?

Only if we can discover the secret to the Pokemon bio-organic digitizing tech so that we can store him in a PC and insert him into a Link to the Past rom for all time.


god dammit
got me good
 
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