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Easy Allies |EZOT2| Love & Respect
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Brian_FETO
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He was freaking out because of Huber
I think you need the context of Final Bets to get why that E3 was so special
Kyle never played Shenmue, Huber isn't big on FFVII, Kyle was super hyped on Last Guardian. Everyone was excited for the things their friends were excited for that they never thought would actually happen
Out of those 3 Shenmue is an insane crazy person announcement that for all intents and purposes, shouldn't have happened. It was insane
Shenmue 3 was one of the mythical E3 announcements that everyone wanted for years but never got, mostly everyone was freaking out, even people who've never played Shenmue.
Thanks. context does help. I didn't watch much Game Trailers in the past, so I didn't have any idea about the bets and stuff.
That's the way to do it. Just thinking about it makes me so hyped for this years E3 coverage, man.
frametrap when
Me and my friends usually try to arrange a viewing party. When that doesn't happen I would watch Giant Bomb's stream first. After that I watch Easy Allies' since they sometimes overpower the stream, this way I watch them watch it instead.
I only watch Nintendo's stuff directly. Generally it's the only one I care about enough to give it most of my attention. And I only watch the 3rd party press conferences for the commentary.
This reminds me of the main time period I used to visit GT. To watch all the E3 trailers in a time before I was able to watch anything live.
LiquidSolid
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It's all about expectations. PSX is a B tier show, no-one expected Sony to announce two new Naughty Dog games there, whereas the Switch reveal was meant to be Nintendo's big coming out party, the place they announced a ton of games. I think their reactions were appropriate in context.
I should probably rewatch them at some point too. I remember Microsoft's conference being pretty dire because they only announced 3 games total, one of which was a new Forza (which turned out good but was about as surprising as a new FIFA) and another was a timed exclusive. Sea of Thieves was basically the one highlight.
I'm kinda the same. I have three monitors so I'll usually have one on the direct feed stream, one on the EZA stream and one on GAF. For the minor conferences (Bethesda, EA and Ubisoft), I don't really care enough to bother watching their direct feeds live, so I'll just listen to EZA talk over them. Catching Jones' BF1 trailer rant live was the highlight of EA's conference last year. But for the major conferences, I'll mute them during the conferences themselves and rewatch their reactions afterwards.
TheDarkKnight774
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I enjoyed the latest episode of Talking Zelda. Probably my favorite episode yet. It was entertaining to see Jones gleefully twist the knife in Brad and Damiani's heart as he looked to find the break point of their fandom. How far would they sell out due to their franchise love.
Dangansona
Member
I'm really getting into these guys via Frame Trap and EZA podcasts.
Merchandise
Member
Yeah, I think the podcasts are their best content. Upcoming movie podcast is about to be fire.
TheDarkKnight774
Member
unknownstranger
Member
I've always wanted real life friends to watch E3 with but I've never had any. Nintendo's Switch reveal was the first time I even had someone to talk to online with as it was going on.
Barajas_201
Member
Does he spoil anything? I've been on media blackout until now.
No idea. Don't have time to sit through it right now. Since he's talking to the other allies who are going to be playing it but haven't yet, I kinda doubt it.
TheDarkKnight774
Member
He's the only one to play it so I'd be stunned if there was spoiling anything. He's been good about this with other games he's reviewed that others haven't played yet or has been released.
Ultimadrago
Member
3-Hour Frametrap! Oh yeah~
TheDarkKnight774
Member
Finally watched Easy Update. Fun game that plays to their improv strengths.
I absolutely loved the ending with Huber's odd request to work around some package arrival from MLB. Brad was hilarious and having Kyle lose it was the icing on the cake.
I absolutely loved the ending with Huber's odd request to work around some package arrival from MLB. Brad was hilarious and having Kyle lose it was the icing on the cake.
Super Mario Odyssey dude, you see that?
ElephantShell
Banned
Seeing as how the game isn't technically out yet, I highly doubt it. If you're full media blackout though then you may be sensitive to some of it as I'm assuming he'll cover basics you might see in trailers or previews etc.
Hippolnareff
Member
He's said since that he was excited for Huber and the presence of the announcement rather than the announcement itself. Although he sat in on a good part of the Shenmue streams IIRC, so I wouldn't be surprised if he was a bit excited.
Ultimadrago
Member
Props to Kyle for bringing up Night in the Woods on Frametrap! I hope Ben does take his word on it and checks it out. I take Kyle as a very emotional being to the sense that I can see him largely bringing up the game being "Sad", which it certainly goes there. However, it's about all manner of responses one treks with those they love or are getting to know like anger, happiness, acceptance and defeat while maintaining that wide-eyed youthful, yet ever so cynical voice. On the mechanics vs. game portion, there are segments of the game that unfortunately make a poor divide and focus on the limited platforming without offering much else. They are very brief and there are only about four in the game, but they were not executed well and should be pointed out.
I really like how he brought up that the script certainly aims for the direction in a way that can alienate (For example, many of the characters say "Eh." much more than any group of people I've ever met. It's the type of tick you'd expect from a modern indie game or "Millennial" take that at times took me out of a few of the conversations). However, the payoffs for that strong direction were much greater for me personally.
Again, I hope Huber covers more on it (without spoiling too much about the daily interactions/secrets).
I really like how he brought up that the script certainly aims for the direction in a way that can alienate (For example, many of the characters say "Eh." much more than any group of people I've ever met. It's the type of tick you'd expect from a modern indie game or "Millennial" take that at times took me out of a few of the conversations). However, the payoffs for that strong direction were much greater for me personally.
Again, I hope Huber covers more on it (without spoiling too much about the daily interactions/secrets).
CaperStackingPaper
Neo Member
This is the only appropriate reaction to someone saying they are going to 100% Ghost Recon: Wildlands.
Holundrian
Unconfirmed Member
Ben having the criticism for P5 of being reminded of archtypes.
Just going to spoiler tag it for safety but honestly I'll keep it vague.
Ok this part is vague spoilery on characteristic on Emperor and Hermit but nothing about the storylines.
Spoiler mode hopes also tagged for safetey
Just felt like speaking about it not because I wanted to devalue that sentiment just that I thought it was interesting cause I'm kind of a stickler for that stuff too but I went away from the game being quite content in how it differentiated itself character wise.
I had more issues with core systems. I also thought a certain thing in relation to romance stuff was pretty stupid and immersion breaking.
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My two things that I think and hope are going to be explored more for turn based combat are usability and combat balance.
Usability is a clear thing when look at Persona 5 doing these simple things just trying to cut down menu navigation in combat as much as they can as well as making everything feel fast or if it isn't fast at least not boring to look at. Honestly it's insane to me that not more JRPGs have tried to push this aspect. I hope P5 does create the impetus for a lot of them to reconsider this stuff again. Right now I have only faith that Falcom will learn strong lesson from P5 as they're generally chasing trends often to a fault.
As for combat balance this is hard to talk about but having played Dota 2 now for a couple years and thinking about what makes turn based actually super enjoyable and coming to the conclusion that it's the interplay of not only the actual combat systems but very often the supporting power growth systems that make turn based generally engaging. If we'd cut all the Fusion out of Persona we'd be left with something painfully basic bordering boring I'd say.
I feel like when it comes to systems and general balance JRPGs still have a ton of room to explore given that I've yet still to encounter a turnbased system that doesn't just break down in certain aspects through player exploitation(often leading to very repetitive combat actions).
If people can crack that nut and make JRPG combat way more dynamic/demanding for moment to moment decisions I think it would be more interesting.
Basically I want the Dark Souls style of difficulty balancing to be married into turn based. Lots of system like SMT that are considered hard are actually in my opinion pretty bs when it comes to difficulty. They're difficulty is more about cheapness or too easily exploited. I want to play a JRPG where defeat gives me a stronger sense about what mistakes I made and it shouldn't just be limited to "decisions of 1 turn before" but also having to reconsider maybe decisions of 4 turns before I end in a deadend battlewise.
Just going to spoiler tag it for safety but honestly I'll keep it vague.
I kind of get it but at the same time felt very selective :-x with the examples I feel like. Yes it's kind of easy to make that comparison that the Chariot is kind of the loud friend again. I kind of get it but honestly not mentioning other characters that are very quite fresh this time around(like Lovers) kind maybe over pronounced it as an issue? + even with characters like the Chariot they go down very different paths and become very much their own. Lovers, Emperor, Hermit for example were characters that were pretty fresh to me this time around. Of course you could boil them down to certain combination of other archtypes but you can do that with everything. I'll admit though given that my view is very much entrenched in me seeing all story lines to completion, I could maybe see that impressions of similarity are more pronounced when you're right in the middle of most storylines.
I especially enjoyed Emperor and Hermit as oddballs with weird twists to them that made them kind of occupy the uncanny valley of oddness for me never quite fully conforming to my expectations of oddness in fiction but still very much having their own takes on eccentric behavior. :-x I think it's because both kind of display a type of self awareness but in the end of the day still are very much happy with themselves despite they both knowing they are quite a bit outside the spectrum that would be considered normal.
I super hope that whenever the P5 spoiler mode happens everyone will have a lot to say about the themes within the game and how they related to them. Also wonder how they'd deal with the politics that are part of the game. I feel like it's so interesting how despite many conflicts being inspired from real Japanese news, the time Persona 5 hit made them globally more relevant.
Just felt like speaking about it not because I wanted to devalue that sentiment just that I thought it was interesting cause I'm kind of a stickler for that stuff too but I went away from the game being quite content in how it differentiated itself character wise.
I had more issues with core systems. I also thought a certain thing in relation to romance stuff was pretty stupid and immersion breaking.
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My two things that I think and hope are going to be explored more for turn based combat are usability and combat balance.
Usability is a clear thing when look at Persona 5 doing these simple things just trying to cut down menu navigation in combat as much as they can as well as making everything feel fast or if it isn't fast at least not boring to look at. Honestly it's insane to me that not more JRPGs have tried to push this aspect. I hope P5 does create the impetus for a lot of them to reconsider this stuff again. Right now I have only faith that Falcom will learn strong lesson from P5 as they're generally chasing trends often to a fault.
As for combat balance this is hard to talk about but having played Dota 2 now for a couple years and thinking about what makes turn based actually super enjoyable and coming to the conclusion that it's the interplay of not only the actual combat systems but very often the supporting power growth systems that make turn based generally engaging. If we'd cut all the Fusion out of Persona we'd be left with something painfully basic bordering boring I'd say.
I feel like when it comes to systems and general balance JRPGs still have a ton of room to explore given that I've yet still to encounter a turnbased system that doesn't just break down in certain aspects through player exploitation(often leading to very repetitive combat actions).
If people can crack that nut and make JRPG combat way more dynamic/demanding for moment to moment decisions I think it would be more interesting.
Basically I want the Dark Souls style of difficulty balancing to be married into turn based. Lots of system like SMT that are considered hard are actually in my opinion pretty bs when it comes to difficulty. They're difficulty is more about cheapness or too easily exploited. I want to play a JRPG where defeat gives me a stronger sense about what mistakes I made and it shouldn't just be limited to "decisions of 1 turn before" but also having to reconsider maybe decisions of 4 turns before I end in a deadend battlewise.
TheDarkKnight774
Member
I thought NieR ending E would be the only game ending I experienced this week that would stick with me forever, but that propagate ending is gonna be hard to forget
TheDarkKnight774
Member
I now believe that ending was influenced by Berserk
When I voted, Drawn to Death had 40% of the votes and Monopoly had 43, so It should be fine as a lot of people switched to Golden Eye apparently. As long as it's not Drawn To Death, It's fine with me (I voted for Monopoly as I really enjoyed it the first time they played it).
I'm geniunely curious. Played it for little bit last year or so and was kinda disappointed with Drawn to Death back then. If it would devolve into a meme stream I would be disappointed *shrug*. But monopoly wins anyway, so whatever.
Going by the comments on the poll, I doubt it would be close if it wasn't for the Kyle/Jaffe situation.
Game is pretty much hot garbage anyway.
TheDarkKnight774
Member
I don't care if it's new or not. I don't think It will make a good stream. I can't even find out if it has split screen support. It said it was out in 2015. So it seems likely it'd be two hours of them playing online against others for a game that doesn't look great and got little good feedback from the beta. The bottom line is most that voted for it did it so they could get a reaction of Kyle playing the game.
I want entertaining streams and Monopoly always delivers on this front. And if Monopoly wasn't up for a vote I'd go with Goldeneye
Edit: and I just saw Kyle platinumed Parapa last night. Can't wait for that Weds stream.
So just like Monopoly then.
Hippolnareff
Member
Kyle already platting Parappa, haha. Wednesday stream is gonna be good.
LiquidSolid
Member
No lies detected. Worst board game.
I've already put 5 hours into Persona 5 and I love it so much. The beginning is a bit slow and handhold-y but I guess that's probably needed since Persona 5 will be a LOT of people's first Persona. But the worst part of the game is Atlus' moronic decision to block all Share features throughout the entire game. I just want to take some cool screenshots, Atlus, why you gotta be dicks about it?
They make it fun. I don't think anyone can make drawn to death fun, looks like gutter trash.
Primethius
Banned
I had fun with the alpha. *shrugs*
Uno Venova
Banned
Listening to Ben talk about Persona 5 during Frame Trap really got me excited to play, my first intro into the series. Steelbook is on the way today!.
Napalm_Frank
Member
Damiani sigh of doom.
My steelbook is arriving today, but the dilemma is that I am in full swing working through Nier Autamata. Not to mention I'm just 5 hours into both Horizon and FFXV...
Napalm_Frank
Member
I know this won't happen but it would be friggin amazing since it's their first time and they could agree on in game dates to stop playing between episodes.
I hope Kyle will stream the game. He enjoyed Banjo Kazooie a lot, after all.
Damiani's doing it.
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