"Edge" is free?! EA to Tim Langdell: "Fuck you"

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jooey said:
like air, because he's going to brush it off and see if he can swindle somewhere else.
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kind of. The whole point of that thread is just a empty job listing. He has been tripping over his own knub to make it LOOK like he is actively making games.
 
He's a qualified psychologist? Brilliant, that makes him one of geniuses who went mad and evil.
He knows how stuff works and exploits it. We need to send in the goddamn Batman.
 
Mr Killemgood said:
I guess I am a little late to post this, now that the thread has been deleted but....

Earlier today, Tim Langdell from EDGE posted on the Game Developers page on LinkedIn. For those that do not know, LinkedIn is a social network for business professionals. The Game Developers page features over 19,000 professionals in the games industry - just about anyone you can think of is on it.

At any rate, developers can post their job hirings for $195.00 per 30 day posting. Langdell had posted a thread looking for iPhone/360/PS3/PC/Wii developers.

The following is the complete transcript from the posts. Hilarity ensues.



This was approximately 3-4 hours ago. I have just received word that the thread has been deleted by Mr. Langdell. Unfortunately, I can't provide a link to the thread thanks to it's deletion, but you can see that it's been deleted here:

http://www.linkedin.com/groupAnswer...5&trk=NUS_DIG_DISC_Q-ucg_mr#commentID_7525596

Awesome!
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Mr Killemgood said:
Tim Langdell

CEO, Edge Games

See all Tim’s discussions »
Coders and 3D Artists Needed (PC, PS3, Wii, XBOX360, iPhone) - worldwide

EDGE Games is currently expanding its development teams and are seeking the following:
* Programmers with expertise in coding for Wii, PS3, Xbox360, PC, DS or iPhone/iPod Touch (preference for those who have coded for a shipped product)
* Animators with experience in Maya or 3D Max (again, experience with a shipped game preferred but not essential)
* Programmers with expertise in procedural graphic coding on any platform.
* Coders with expertise using the Unreal Engine.

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Brian Beuken
Brian Beuken

Lecturer in Computer Gaming at NHTV Breda
Why are you still pretending you are a game developer? You have no dev status on Wii/DS/Ps3 or Xbox and your offices are a mail box....EA are about to shut you and your Edge scam down for good and you could well end up in jail for your perjury.

Anyone even remotely tempted to respond should read www.chaosedge.wordpress.com

Enough already Tim, the whole world knows you're not a games developer, apart from you it seems. Time you stopped this!

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Martin Piper
Martin Piper

Owner, Replica Software
EDGE Games have not been active for years.
http://ttabvue.uspto.gov/ttabvue/v?p...&pty=CAN&eno=1

Tim, have you paid the other developers who took you to court after you failed to pay them?
There are many other questions you have not answered Tim.
http://www.igda.org/node/1035923
http://www.igda.org/node/1037144

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Andres Del Valle

Department Chair - Computer Animation
wow, thanks guys. I'll make my students aware of this.

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Tim Langdell
Tim Langdell

CEO, Edge Games
There is no truth to what either of you say and we note again the deliberate damage you two are trying to cause Edge Games. Edge has been active as a developer/publisher for the past 30 years, and as you know currently has a new game in release with several further games in development. We are authorized Nintendo (Wii/DS) developers and we are PS3 developers, too. We are also authorized Apple iPhone developers and despite what you say we the reality is we have several XBOX360 titles in development. EA's futile attempt to cancel our trademarks will fail since it has no basis in fact or law. No developers ever took Edge Games to court over a failure to pay them, and so far no one has been able to send us anything that shows there was any truth to that. Of the several hundred developers and artists who have worked for Edge over the past 30 years the vast majority have been entirely happy with the experience they had working with us.

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Brian Beuken
Brian Beuken

Lecturer in Computer Gaming at NHTV Breda
"we"? How does 1 man working with photoshop (badly) out of a mail box get to use the royal we?

I never mentioned Iphone, anyone can be an Iphone developer for $99. Even me. XNA also provides a way to the Xbox but you are not a developer...you can't be..not running from a mail box..We all know this, and so do you. Don't try to hide from the point..you do not have developer status on Wii,DS.PS3 or Xbox360. You are not therefore in any position to offer work to anyone who is qualified to work on those consoles.

Tim, stop...seriously, I am starting to think you must be ill, you've been exposed totally. And the more you continue to parade these grandiose delusions that you are an important figure in the games industry the more we will point out the simple facts that show you are not. In that way the development community you've been living off vicariously for years now will eventually shed itself of you.

Edge Games is a shell, a sham, a non entity you've kept going for years to give you some sense of importance that your output simply does not justify.

There can't be a developer left who does not know that.

You can make these bold statements till the cows come home the facts are quite simple. EA will shut you down, your lies have been exposed and the more you protest them, the more retribution for them will come your way.



The whole world knows you for what you are...when are YOU going to realize this?

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Tim Langdell
Tim Langdell

CEO, Edge Games
Again, you are wrong. Edge Games is an authorized developer for Wii/DS, etc. Your saying Edge is not a developer does not make it a fact no matter how many times you say it. That you totally ignore the fact Edge currently has a game in release reveals that you have no goal other than to cause damage to Edge Games no matter how many facts you have to ignore to achieve your twisted objective. I note you repeated the lie about two programmers suing Edge Games and once again fail to provide any evidence that happened. It did not and you know it did not.

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Brian Beuken
Brian Beuken

Lecturer in Computer Gaming at NHTV Breda
Tim
I AM a registered developer...I can check..I did,...you are not.

I know its not easy for others to get hold of this information, so you can make this claim fairly confident others cannot check it...but I can, I have, the fact is you are the liar...and you don't seem to realize the game is up.

Your game in release...ie Racers? is actually Voltage a previously released game, your ownership of which is questionable, and you've sold....0 copies...a fact provable by the invoice numbers received by two ChaosEdge users. You've not actually delivered the copy of Racers that was ordered..so I really don't see how that qualifies as a game in release?

The more you attempt to justify your ridiculous claims the easier it is for myself and others to disprove them.

You're a psychologist...tell me, why do people who get caught telling lies insist on repeating the lie over and over again hoping that at least someone will believe them?

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Keyser Soze said:
I dont think emailing him helps.

I was more concerned about alerting the people who grant the Trademark, to show how badly he is misusing it. If a large enough quality shows up in their inbox then it can only help the cause to get this guy knocked the fuck out
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I just gave him a call, got his voicemail though....
 
Brian Beuken has been the bane of Langdell's miserable existence ever since that IGDA thread calling for his resignation. He deserves mad props for helping expose him so thoroughly and continuing to keep on Langdell's trail wherever he pops up. Internet justice at it's finest.
 
concerning his job openings...


It wouldn't surprise me if he was the kind of guy to give an art test to applicants, and then simply not hire them, and use the models/textures they made for the art test in a game of his.
 
oracrest said:
concerning his job openings...


It wouldn't surprise me if he was the kind of guy to give an art test to applicants, and then simply not hire them, and use the models/textures they made for the art test in a game of his.
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I could see that, now that people are savvy to his shameless pilfering of deviant art (or all places).
 
beat said:
A space marine: http://chaosedge.wordpress.com/2009/09/03/mirrors-a-new-game-from-edge/

After being exposed, Langdell switched the art, but still not with something he owned the rights to: http://chaosedge.wordpress.com/2009/09/04/the-crying-developer/
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He also stole a 15 year old girl's piece from deviant art:

Original:

http://img.skitch.com/20090904-m3bu97sg89ijg54as4i79cpit7.jpg

From Langdell's product information page:

http://img.skitch.com/20090904-g33dds8xd95e7m9wsrtifuyamt.jpg
 
Marvellous stuff.

There's now only 7 days to go for Langdell to file his answer to EA - what's the betting this ad is included as 'evidence'?

Should be fun and games.
 
Freaking classic!

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Brian Beuken
Brian Beuken

Lecturer in Computer Gaming at NHTV Breda
"we"? How does 1 man working with photoshop (badly) out of a mail box get to use the royal we?

I never mentioned Iphone, anyone can be an Iphone developer for $99. Even me. XNA also provides a way to the Xbox but you are not a developer...you can't be..not running from a mail box..We all know this, and so do you. Don't try to hide from the point..you do not have developer status on Wii,DS.PS3 or Xbox360. You are not therefore in any position to offer work to anyone who is qualified to work on those consoles.

Tim, stop...seriously, I am starting to think you must be ill, you've been exposed totally. And the more you continue to parade these grandiose delusions that you are an important figure in the games industry the more we will point out the simple facts that show you are not. In that way the development community you've been living off vicariously for years now will eventually shed itself of you.

Edge Games is a shell, a sham, a non entity you've kept going for years to give you some sense of importance that your output simply does not justify.

There can't be a developer left who does not know that.

You can make these bold statements till the cows come home the facts are quite simple. EA will shut you down, your lies have been exposed and the more you protest them, the more retribution for them will come your way.



The whole world knows you for what you are...when are YOU going to realize this?"

Love this man, LOVE HIM AND MAKE BABIES WITH HIM!
 
oracrest said:
Does anyone know if the name change from "soul edge" to Soul calibur" has anything to do with this guy?
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Yup, thank him.
I believe Namco didn't want to deal with it so they just changed it for NA.
 
Langdell filed a response on 27 October 2009. You can find it here:

http://ttabvue.uspto.gov/ttabvue/v?pno=92051465&pty=CAN&eno=1

It is a motion to dismiss EA’s claim on the grounds that there is no claim on which relief can be granted because these issues have already been fully litigated – in particular in the Velocity Micro case.

Well, except that, from the supporting documents it appears that judgment was entered in Velocity Micro as a result of a settlement, not as a result of the court hearing any evidence.

I’m not familiar with US court procedure, but this does not seem to be an approach that will work. It might have the effect of delaying matters for a while - but this might not be entirely to Langdell's advantage.

It would certainly be bizarre law if a settlement between two parties could nullify the legal rights of a third party.
 
I saw "The Informant" recently and can't help but see some hilarious parallels between the main character and this guy. He almost seems (to my layman mind) like a pathological liar, someone who just keeps building lie upon lie without any good reason.
 
Langdell finds new trade mark target
Killer Edge Racing from PuzzleKings is the latest game to be targeted by IP hunter Timothy Langdell, who has complained to Apple that the casual title is infringing his Edge trade mark.

Additionally, it appears that Langdell has now applied to register a trade mark for "Killer Edge Racing" in a bid to prevent PuzzleKings from using the name, despite the fact that the game has been around for five years.

But Sheridans, the legal firm acting on PuzzleKings founder Nalin Sharma's behalf, has told GamesIndustry.biz that it believes the case - as with the recent Mobigame one - is without merit.

"In this case and the Mobigame case we consider that under trade mark law it is necessary for Langdell (or his companies) to show that the public will be confused into believing there is an economic connection between his marks and the names used the games in question," explained Alex Chapman. "There is clearly, in our view no prospect of this being the case in respect of 'Killer Edge Racing' or 'Edge by Mobigame' - and that is before you go on to consider whether Langdell's (or his company's marks are even valid)."

And Alex Tutty, also of Sheridans, said: "Additionally we have learned that Langdell is behind an application to register a US Trade Mark for 'Killer Edge Racing' despite the fact that this mark has been used freely by Nalin for five years."
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http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/langdell-finds-new-trade-mark-target
 
is there a list of games that he can actually claim to have produced or published?
 
The guy definitely has mental issues. He just keeps going as if nothing has happened. I had the displeasure of working with someone like that once. Caused the company I worked for to go under.
 
M3d10n said:
The guy definitely has mental issues. He just keeps going as if nothing has happened. I had the displeasure of working with someone like that once.
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It's apparently a very common thing with assholes like this. Remember Dion from Neo Geo Freak?
 
Jocchan said:
Of course! You can find it here:
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Very good.

Reminds me of an old joke. Scholar Jones comments to Scholar Smith that Smith's book is quite good, but that no mention of Jones is made, which seems a rather big oversight.

So when the second edition comes out, Smith sends a copy to Jones with a note "Problem fixed." Jones quickly scans the index and finds an entry for his name. He notes the page and begins to search for the page.

Eventually he finds it. It's the page of the index where his name is listed.
 
Gary Whitta said:
Does this guy actually produce anything or does he just threaten those who try to?
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You should really read that chaosedge blog. I went through the whole thing one day and it was very enlightening. But yeah, he did in fact release some stuff way back in the 70s and 80s I think. But he hasn't done anything since then. I don't think the actual game company EDGE has released anything in over 20 years.

Whatever games are listed as being made by his company are all smoke and mirrors, all it is is fake (and STOLEN) cover art for games that don't exist. The other stuff is trying to connect his company to absolutely everything with the word edge in it. He even claimed that some tv show licensed the EDGE mark from him. When the producer was show was asked about it, he had never heard of Tim or EDGE.
 
Update 6th November:

EA has filed opposition to the motion to dismiss - http://ttabvue.uspto.gov/ttabvue/v?pno=92051465&pty=CAN&eno=1

It is along the lines that I mentioned in the earlier post.

I find it interesting that Langdell has not so far filed an answer to the petition to cancel - on my reading he will have only about a day to do so if his motion to dismiss is denied (which it will be).

This could, I suspect, all be over very quickly.
 
Well... people... just found myself in possession of Racers, an Edge game... can't wait to give it a play.

Edit: Actually... I'm not sure I even want to put this on my computer... I'm not sure what will even happen.
 
phisheep said:
Update 6th November:

EA has filed opposition to the motion to dismiss - http://ttabvue.uspto.gov/ttabvue/v?pno=92051465&pty=CAN&eno=1

It is along the lines that I mentioned in the earlier post.

I find it interesting that Langdell has not so far filed an answer to the petition to cancel - on my reading he will have only about a day to do so if his motion to dismiss is denied (which it will be).

This could, I suspect, all be over very quickly.
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In that same link, there was an update on Nov. 9th and it was something that Tim submitted. Though...I don't really understand what it means.

Someone care to clarify?
 
What happened was, on 6th Nov along with everything else, EA filed a request for an interlocutory attorney to be present at the disclosure conference 26th November.

What this means is that the trademarks people would be there to referee/witness the goings-on while TL tries to weasel his way out of this thing and to prevent it from coming to blows.

However, TL has filed this strange thing on 9 Nov saying that because he has filed a motion to dismiss there won't be a disclosure conference on 26 Nov or anywhere near that.

The idea is that because filing the motion to dismiss suspends the timetable for answering the original petition to cancel the trademarks, TL doesn't have to answer yet - and if he doesn't answer yet, disclosure will have to be delayed.

Now, I don't know how civil procedure works in the US, but I guess there could be all manner of delaying motions filed in order to put off the inevitable - however, he will be short of time eventually. He probably wouldn't get away with this in the UK.

I find it curious as well how TL is filing his own motions rather than going through lawyers - have they deserted him?
 
El_TigroX said:
Well... people... just found myself in possession of Racers, an Edge game... can't wait to give it a play.

Edit: Actually... I'm not sure I even want to put this on my computer... I'm not sure what will even happen.
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Do it for the greater good, from the screenshots it looks like a Wipeout/FZero ripoff, I wanna know if the graphics are anything more than equivalent to old DOS games :lol
 
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