Edge: PS4 to launch in Europe in early 2014, US/JP 2013, more powerful than next Xbox
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JimiNutz
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I agree, Sony will probably be ok in mainland Europe regardless, but you'd think that they would want to try and take back the UK?
UK is most definitely MS territory at the moment but a strong PS4 launch would prob have a chance of changing the tide... Not if they launch in 2014 though.
I wonder if adding the extra RAM is more so that the system can constantly record video like it's been rumored to be able to do.
Melchiah
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In the UK? Maybe.
In the rest of EU? Hell no.
Any info on how it's in scandinavia? I remember reading, that the PS3 and PC were the most popular here in Finland.
did you guys really expect a worldwide launch? Sony likes to tease europe ... always the same story. I did not expect anything other than that. the RAM rumour sounds to good to be true but we can always hope ^^.
I never buy a console at its release cause most launch games are still testing the hardware.. nope, will wait 6 months.
I never buy a console at its release cause most launch games are still testing the hardware.. nope, will wait 6 months.
OldJadedGamer
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If the system was delayed in the US there wouldn't be whining, just a massive loss of sales. They have to do everything they can to win back US sales. It is the Playstation's worse division right now.
yurinka
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In the UK? Maybe.
In the rest of EU? Hell no.
Someone 'forgot' to include PS2 sales there. Nice way of counting market share.
Goldrusher
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Vita US: February 22
Vita EU: February 22
ChosenPredator
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the recording video thing is awesome but what would be insane is if you could use a twitch app and directly stream the footage from your console onto twitch or something
Maybe compare Europe's launches to Japan's launches.
OldJadedGamer
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Worldwide isn't two regions, it is considered three. Japan, US, and EUR.
Unknown One
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The Vita did cross game chat with 512 mb of ram.
To a certain degree, it kind of makes sense to launch late in Europe (even though I would be affected).
Take the 360's launch here. In the town where I live, only 2 stores had the console on launch day. Each only had 10 units each.
So thats 20 units in a town of 90k people. Luckily, I was one of the few who got a console (even though the store manager tried to shaft me in favour of a friend) but I know that other people who preordered the same day as me, had to wait 2 months till another batch was delivered
So we can sit here complaining about a delayed launch but the truth is we would have to be extremely lucky to get our hands on any of these consoles at launch.
Take the 360's launch here. In the town where I live, only 2 stores had the console on launch day. Each only had 10 units each.
So thats 20 units in a town of 90k people. Luckily, I was one of the few who got a console (even though the store manager tried to shaft me in favour of a friend) but I know that other people who preordered the same day as me, had to wait 2 months till another batch was delivered
So we can sit here complaining about a delayed launch but the truth is we would have to be extremely lucky to get our hands on any of these consoles at launch.
Launching in Europe IS harder, even within the EU there's tons of different laws to be considered in different countries, pricing, different distribution partners I guess and translations for games and manuals including warranty papers etc. But it IS doable to include Europe/PAL in a WW launch, you just have to start earlier or throw more people at it to get it all done in time.
Even if it's just a paper launch with few consoles available due to manufacturing speeds would improve people's goodwill compared to "You are last, dealwithit", but given the added hoops you have to jump through, that might be not attractive for the company in question. Might make more sense to paper launch in Japan and throw the consoles on European shelves, the console market in Japan is shrinking anyway.
/totally unbiased German
Even if it's just a paper launch with few consoles available due to manufacturing speeds would improve people's goodwill compared to "You are last, dealwithit", but given the added hoops you have to jump through, that might be not attractive for the company in question. Might make more sense to paper launch in Japan and throw the consoles on European shelves, the console market in Japan is shrinking anyway.
/totally unbiased German
OldJadedGamer
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Of course it is doable since multiple other companies have done it. Nintendo did it just a few months ago.
Cross game chat is guaranteed, since it is already on the vita.
sacrificengineer
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Later in Europe? I'm ok, won't buy this thing at launch anyway.
I know, I was just trying to highlight that there's other things to consider than the amount of hardware units manufactured, as most posts do.
Btw, I hope there aren't more "the ship with all the PS3s on board sank" memes for next gen.
paradise_circus
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we need a good amount of bandwidth for voicechat in general. i hote, that sony ist not making any savings for other not-so-important stuff.
imo, the best solution for that would be, to integrate high-bandwidth voicechat for ps+ members.
Cross game chat doesn't need much at all - heck the Vita has it. The issue with PS3 is they didn't factor it in up front and their OS was larger from the start. When they wanted to add cross-game chat (which PS3 technically could support) the issue was clearly that they couldn't shrink the OS enough, add cross-game chat and still keep the total OS footprint when games were running below the level needed for older PS3 games.
It's pretty clear they could have put cross-game chat on PS3 but they would have rendered a fair number of games released beforehand unable to run and/or support it.
Bottom line it should be easy for PS4 to have it so long as it's planned in from the start (which I presume based on Vita having it will be the case).
eso76
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If Sony doubles the ram, I imagine ms would want to upgrade too.
Except at that point their design (low latency, DME etc) would be useless.
Clay Davis
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I hope not. they should have expected sony to be very aggressive after what happened this gen.
would be incredibly arrogant and I'd have serious concerns about what's going at the Xbox division if they are thrown by sony's aggressiveness.
GreggTheGrimReaper
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We're not gonna take it!
Psycho_Mantis
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Only slightly? Last time I looked, 4GB of GDDR5 was more powerful than 8GB DDR3 and thats not including MS's big OS plans. Of course these are all rumours but do you haven any insider info or where did you get this info form?
NVM looked at the post above
Uno Venova
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Some people wish for it but I doubt it will happen, that's changing too much of a controller millions are so familiar with and enjoy.
Goldrusher
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Wub j00.
90TilInfinity
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TacticalFox88
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Only slightly more powerful?
Naughty Dog, Sony Santa Monica, and Guerilla Games will put an end to that silly notion, lol.
I fully expect those three to blow everyone out of the water.
Naughty Dog, Sony Santa Monica, and Guerilla Games will put an end to that silly notion, lol.
I fully expect those three to blow everyone out of the water.
paradise_circus
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i guess the console is as always a just-in-time solution.
so there would be not enough time to satisfy the the launches with enough SKUs and the us- and japangamer would betatest the os for us. however, i would gladly do that too
zomgbbqftw
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It's going to be a WW launch within a month. They have just started that with Xperia Z/ZL, if they can do it with a smartphone, they can do it with a console. In fact smartphones are harder because they need to be certified for safety with their GSM radios.
Seriously, there should be no reason that a company like Sony shouldn't be able to get a WW launch ready, especially with the likely poor reception in Japan given the lack of local content.
THE:MILKMAN
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Sounds to me Sony is giving different indications to different developers so their plans don't leak.
A bit of a stretch, but I'l take anything at this point.
I think that chart is showing sales in the year of 2012. In which case PS2 would have been less than one pixel wide on that chart.
What would be nice to see is a chart showing PS2 & PS3 sales since the generation started.
TacticalFox88
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You do realize that the Euro is one the primary reasons it's expensive right?
Blame your fucked up economy, not Sony.
Felix Lighter
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I don't see that being an issue for Sony this time around. Even if they don't end up being the lead platform, it doesn't appear, based on the rumors we have, as if devs will need to do anything drastically different to take advantage of the power of Sony's console.
lol they'd be stupid as hell to launch in US last next year. If they have any hope of regaining this territory they need to come out firing immediately.
Felix Lighter
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If Sony really felt a threat of losing Europe over a short delay, they'd make every effort to get it out sooner but I don't honestly think they feel it will cost them much. If there is a delayed launch in Europe, I'm sure it was carefully considered.
DeFiBkIlLeR
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Lol..the only thing they considered, are the extra units that will be available to the Japanese & US markets on launch day...it would have taken them all of 30 secs to make the decision.
'complexities of European distribution'...what a load of bullshit, It's all about getting as many units under as many TV's as possible in the 2 single biggest markets before Microsoft can.
Japan is a bigger market than the EU? Is that true these days? For a home console?