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EDGE: The next Xbox: Always online, no second-hand games, 50GB Blu-ray and new kinect

If true, I expect Microsoft's bullshit surrounding external storage to be worse than it's ever been.

360 started out this gen requiring proprietary storage and loosened up and allowed generic external storage. I'm not concerned about the whole storage thing, though I do hate mandatory installs.
 

Jinko

Member
Don't mind mandatory installs if they do it in the background whilst playing. (As suggested)

Having to sit there for 20 mins whilst a game installs though .. No thanks.
 

Bojanglez

The Amiga Brotherhood
Initially I thought being able to 'pause' multiple games and resume was pointless, because I was thinking about disc swapping. But then it actually further backs up the 'no second hand game' thing, if every disc game is tied to an account with a licence code and all games are played off the hdd, there is no reason for them to force a disc being in the system.

This will actually be seen as a benefit that MS might be able to use to counteract the fact that people can't trade games.
 

SparkTR

Member
Initially I thought being able to 'pause' multiple games and resume was pointless, because I was thinking about disc swapping. But then it actually further backs up the 'no second hand game' thing, if every disc game is tied to an account with a licence code and all games are played off the hdd, there is no reason for them to force a disc being in the system.

This will actually be seen as a benefit that MS might be able to use to counteract the fact that people can't trade games.

It's a nice bonus, but I think the bigger issue they'll have to counteract is the pricing of digital games. They have to be way more flexible.
 

JimiNutz

Banned
Every rumour that I've heard about this thing has been awful.

If any of this is true then MS want to make sure they have some absolutely killer games lined up for launch...
 

Router

Hopsiah the Kanga-Jew
I bet you the game data isn't even on the disk. It's the key for downloading all games to the system. That's why everyone is saying it requires an online connection.

At least, that's what I got from reading the article.

Why would you need a 50gb bluray to hold just an unlock code?
 

Router

Hopsiah the Kanga-Jew
Every rumour that I've heard about this thing has been awful.

If any of this is true then MS want to make sure they have some absolutely killer games lined up for launch...

PGR5 as a launch title, world stops complaining about kinect, no used games, installs etc...
 
2013-01-28-00-05-03_big_brother_is_watching_you.jpg

halbox-kinect-348x196.jpg
 

Diffense

Member
That poster awakened the conspiracy theorist in me. Mandatory always-on kinect cameras, Mandatory always-on connectivity to MS servers, in my living room? No thanks.
 
I cant photoshop worth a damn

but something like this:

text:have fun

Picture: ballmer smiley face

picture: kinnect/hal picture

text: we are watching you


a combination of orwell and huxley.
 

Alx

Member
At risk of evolving this thread into the Ballmer GIF Thread, this is probably my favourite Ballmer meme.

http://i.imgur.com/kFTuS.gif[IMG][/QUOTE]

Funny picture, but I fear the days before the 720 release, when everybody will Ballmerify their avatar. :D
 

CRY_ON

Neo Member
I'm sick of this dlc crazy, online only, no second user bullshit (it's why I don't buy EA titles anymore :/)
I hope this article turns out to be false.
 
Maybe this has been discussed earlier but is it possible that with all this talk about always being online, no used games and Kinect that has to be on, that Microsoft will somehow use Kinect to recognize who owns a game?
 

spekkeh

Banned
The mandatory Kinect does seem to align with previous rumours that they use Kinect to see how many people are in the room, for instance so that you can't watch movies with more than two.
 

Plinko

Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
I'm sick of this dlc crazy, online only, no second user bullshit (it's why I don't buy EA titles anymore :/)
I hope this article turns out to be false.

AndyH already confirmed that EDGE has good sources in this story.
 
The mandatory Kinect does seem to align with previous rumours that they use Kinect to see how many people are in the room, for instance so that you can't watch movies with more than two.

This isn't the first I've seen that mentioned. Is this really a thing? Seems so odd.
 

spekkeh

Banned
Maybe this has been discussed earlier but is it possible that with all this talk about always being online, no used games and Kinect that has to be on, that Microsoft will somehow use Kinect to recognize who owns a game?

Yeah that was also in the kotaku piece I noticed just now.

http://kotaku.com/5958307/this-kinect-patent-is-terrifying-wants-to-charge-you-for-license-violation

Pretty weaksauce that you still can't detect individual fingers with kinect 2, that means Leap will piss all over this.
 
The mandatory Kinect does seem to align with previous rumours that they use Kinect to see how many people are in the room, for instance so that you can't watch movies with more than two.

hahaha funny on all levels! I like this post, if this was twitter I'd RT and favourite it and all that stuff. Great.
 

subversus

I've done nothing with my life except eat and fap
The mandatory Kinect does seem to align with previous rumours that they use Kinect to see how many people are in the room, for instance so that you can't watch movies with more than two.

this might be your fantasy. you have some sick imagination.
 
The mandatory Kinect does seem to align with previous rumours that they use Kinect to see how many people are in the room, for instance so that you can't watch movies with more than two.

"Too many viewers detected. Exit the viewing area immediately. YOU HAVE THIRTY SECONDS TO COMPLY."

Man I can't wait for next gen, it's going to be hilarious :D
 
this might be your fantasy. you have some sick imagination.

I recall there being a thread about Microsoft patenting that tech. So, much like "the PS4 will have offline anti-used-game DRM", it's a case of yes they have the patent, no we haven't heard if they're actually going to use it.
 

SmokedMeat

Gamer™
It just dawned on me that the purpose of Kinect is to enforce the new anti-secondhand game policy.
Using Kinect's facial recognition tech Kinect will determine if the person in front of the camera is the original owner of the game. If not then Kinect tells the Xbox not to run the game and alerts Microsoft.
 

Binabik15

Member
It just dawned on me that the purpose of Kinect is to enforce the new anti-secondhand game policy.
Using Kinect's facial recognition tech Kinect will determine if the person in front of the camera is the original owner of the game. If not then Kinect tells the Xbox not to run the game and alerts Microsoft the police.

Fixed that for you.

Or

Kinnect will transform into a little police officer and mace you.
 

Alx

Member
It just dawned on me that the purpose of Kinect is to enforce the new anti-secondhand game policy.

Nah, that's not realistic at all. User identification through face recognition is far from 100% reliable (heck, even fingerprints readers aren't). It can be a convenient shortcut when it works, but there will always be situations where it won't recognize you, or think another face is yours.
And it can actually be tricked by photographs (though it would be funny to get a mask of the previous owner in the box of your used game ^^ ), so it's not really useful as a security function.
 

iMax

Member
Kinect 2.0 was illustrated in the original Durango design document as comprising two sensors, placed either side of the TV. Is this still correct?
 
Serious question: I wonder what happens if you put a piece of tape over the camera, or a photo of one person sitting in the room?

You can be sure they've spent a long time testing all the ways people might try to get around this. Though it's inevitable that at some stage someone will stumble upon a way to bypass it, until that gets patched.
 

ZealousD

Makes world leading predictions like "The sun will rise tomorrow"
You can be sure they've spent a long time testing all the ways people might try to get around this. Though it's inevitable that at some stage someone will stumble upon a way to bypass it, until that gets patched.

Blanket with eye holes
 
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