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[Palmer_v1]

I don't know what to really say back to you here, it's a sound plan and I brought it up because it's probably something I'd do if I were scum. Getting PRs to soft claim is like a wet dream for scum and pretending to soft claim a role, especially in a game with this type of flavor where it's pretty obvious what the names of the PRs will be, might get push back from the actual holder of that PR. That being said, a doctor role always likes those soft claims too because they might prevent a kill or two but Gafia probably forgets about that because they like lynching the doctor's day 1. That's a tangent though, I didn't read the situation as cabot trying to soft claim Ted Cruz and offered another possibility of why he kept posting Ted Cruz pictures (his excuse that he just thought Ted Cruz had the best face for reactions is just as likely too).

I'm going to wait to see if anyone else sees the same potential problem that I do. I just didn't feel right mentioning it but now following up. If no other townies see a problem there, I'll have to let it go.

 

[Sorian]

I'm going to wait to see if anyone else sees the same potential problem that I do. I just didn't feel right mentioning it but now following up. If no other townies see a problem there, I'll have to let it go.

Fair, I really am signing off for the night now so if something comes up, don't expect my defense for a few hours.

 

[Palmer_v1]

Fair, I really am signing off for the night now so if something comes up, don't expect my defense for a few hours.

I understand. Part of why im posting it at nearly 2am is that it felt wrong to wait. I wont be around much tomorrow, but I will try to check in when i can.

 

[cabot]

Before I go to bed, I'll switch my vote to Cabot. It honestly feels like he's playing differently. Pointless stuff, stuff that distracts, stuff that gives him cover. "I only posted pointless bullshit to move the discussion along" is such a ridiculous explanation, I don't even know what to say. I get fluff, I get that, it's a lot of fun, but that list is 101 "How to look busy while doing nothing".

For now:
VOTE: Cabot

Yeah what a distraction, all that game talk afterwards from moving away from the fluff.

Do me a lemon.

You're all over the damn shop, Again with the pointlessness argument. Need I post your ode to roytheone again, a player that's not even in this game? Alright, I will.

My fellow Republicans, dirty stinking liberals, I would like to point you towards America's biggest problem. A problem we have ignored for many years, a problem that affects all of us, the noble Republicans as much as the criminal, disgusting, miserable, sickening Democrats. A problem that forces us to set aside our differences and work together, just this once, to make America, no, not just America, to make the world great again.

I call for the elimination of roytheone, also known as 'royroy', 'roy', 'The Dirty Dutchman', 'The Clone Warrior', 'The Disgusting Dalmatian' and 'The Two Day Old Virgin That Died'.

Please do not talk to me about pointlessness where my actions actually brought the game discussion forward and all you did was chase a freaking avatar choice and talk royroy.

You also contradict yourself here:

Going over his first day posts from the Archer game, maybe cabot is just doing his thing, but it definitely feels to me like he's taking a different approach. I don't know, I'm not accusing him yet, he's just giving me bad vibes. Maybe we'll know more later.

Which is it? I'm playing differently or I'm similar to how Archer began? If you seem to be at odds with this point how the hell do you think I am reading this?

VOTE: El Topo

 

[Bananaspaceprincess]

All right then. Here is what I think so far. I’m still very unsure of how to read things into posts at this stage of the game. Of course it is easy to target the fishiest looking players, like nin1000 or Cabot. But I truly guess that they are just trying to stir things up at the moment. They might have PR but who knows. Since lynching will be a game of chance anyway we could of course just get one of them out of the way and move on from there.

If I accuse the most obvious posts of course I also have to consider the players who are very inactive and seem to try to blend. Therefore I understand your suspicion and probably would accuse myself as well.
I can assure you that me not posting has more to do with me being new to this kind of gameplay

Spoiler

and the current nice weather in Europe

I will go hint hunting through the last pages now and post more later on.

 

[cabot]

Cabot seems awfully active and talkative this time, engaging in fluff and throwing around accusations, as well as making pointless lists that might serve as a distraction for us. Gives a very different feel from last time.

Ok, I'm done with everything relevant for the day, now to dedicate the next couple of hours to mafia

Think I'll start with this

UNVOTE

Pure flavor vote

Of the players so far, it seems only Cabot has any sorts of leads attached. I'll agree with Burbeting here, scum could definitely try to hide behind being the first to make reads. By helping initiate the flavor to actually doing something phase, he can look like's contributing, when really, he didn't say anything at all.

By beginning to post reads, he makes it look like he's trying to figure out what's going on and being serious, while using flavor to fill in the blanks about what he "doesn't know". Problem is, there are 16 blanks.

Idk, I'm not to good at making reads based off of behavior, typically think of it through a perspective of what happens in this situation and what the possible results are

VOTE: Cabot

I'm very ready to listen to something that makes more sense from someone else, but I'll leave my vote on cabot for now

Read again, there was not sixteen blanks. Sorian's count was close but not complete.

I then follow up the reads by analyzing Burb's response and trying to figure out what's going on with his logic and also trying to put forth my thinking on what I did.

This wasn't a hit and run. I've been active in the game and I'm trying to get to the bottom of things. I kind of laugh at the idea of 'Oh well game talk began after this, and he caused it to appear to be contributive'

It appears that way because it is.

Anyway, other thoughts

kingkitty:

vote: cabot

some discussion in the last page has led my gut to believe cabot deserves to die.

so you're saying cabot could be playing scummy?

I wonder if the electorate would risk doing an early GOP persona claim. From what I've read (which is little), every republican here has a unique persona. If cabot was the electorate, and he claims to be Ted Cruz, ruh-oh he might end up getting counter-claimed by the real Ted Cruz.

/rubs chin

so what you're trying to imply, cabot, is that you're Ted Cruz.

I found this whole exchange quite suspicious because he was actively fishing for me to role claim. If I was Ted Cruz, do you think I'd bloody go out and declare it on D1 without any good reason?

Also he then instantly decides I'm acting scummy based on what Palmer says instead and puts a vote on the possible PR he theoretically almost outed. Classy.

I'm waiting for a response from El Topo but you're on my watchlist, kitty cat.

 

[cabot]

That El Topo quote was leftover from my post on him, a thousand apologies.

 

[*Splinter]

Again, it makes me think you're trying to start a bandwagon that you either don't believe in 100% or don't want to see traced back to you eventually.

This is a really strange point to me for 2 reasons.

1) It's D1, we're building reads out of very thin evidence. If Topo ended up lynched because of this and flipped Town, I doubt that strongly indicates any alignment on Launch. He could have been lying or just wrong.

2) The strat you've suggested relies on everyone analysing votes in a vacuum. If anyone is actually looking at votes in context (and I think most people do) they'd see the Topo vote starting with Launch's post.

 

[El Topo]

How is it odd that I'm going after Cabot for giving me a very different vibe from the last game I played with him? It's the first day and all we have is the flimsiest indication that someone might be mafia, so I think going after someone because of that is legitimate, more legitimate than going through first day posts, trying to decipher some hidden meaning.

For the record, I'm also sceptical of other players, but Cabot takes the cake for me. I can't even quite put my finger down, but it's just...off.

 

[cabot]

I'm going to hammer down my belief of D1 lynching.

A D1 lynch can be considered a success if the one of the following criteria is met:

1) You DO NOT hit a PR

OR

2) You hit a scum

Now GAFia has broken number one quite often so far.

The truth is you're going to most likely hit a townie of some form, and the question is do you go for a player who is active and garnering discussion or do you go for ones that are quiet/intentionally difficult to communicate with/disruptive to the game itself?

You always go for the latter. I said it in Archer and NX, I was proven right in Archer. Quiet players are dangerous.

There's a bit of uncertainty with regards to hitting a neutral, because they can be pro-town or anti-town, so I can't really make a set rule out of that grey area. These two facets will have to do.

MikeHawk and QuantumBro skated by in Archer without much input until Haly and Gorlak died and they had to step their game up. Even then it was slight compared to the active town group. I'll add Mazre to that as well, because he was suspicious to me the entire game despite being cleared by a cop. I find quiet players hard to judge.

The simple truth? Active players give themselves more and more opportunity of slipping up because they are active. This is why they can live by D1 for more thorough investigation and discussion. Quiet/disruptive players in the middle/late stage of a game is much more problematic.

 

[*Splinter]

This is a really strange point to me for 2 reasons.

2) The strat you've suggested relies on everyone analysing votes in a vacuum. If anyone is actually looking at votes in context (and I think most people do) they'd see the Topo vote starting with Launch's post.

As a follow on to this:

If anyone is avoiding accountability it's Palmer. He's claimed he strongly suspects Sorian but won't explain why and instead is willing to wait for everyone else to come to the same conclusion. That's either masking a vote he has no good reason for, or dodging the responsibility of starting an actual push on someone, or I don't know what

 

[*Splinter]

The simple truth? Active players give themselves more and more opportunity of slipping up because they are active. This is why they can live by D1 for more thorough investigation and discussion. Quiet/disruptive players in the middle/late stage of a game is much more problematic.

Agree 100% This is exactly what I've been trying to say.


However I'll counter your point on Archer having quiet KGB: Danganronpa scum included 2 of the 3 most active posters in the game (myself and Tim). High activity doesn't guarantee (or even imply) innocence, it only guarantees that we will have more information to work with on those players.

 

[cabot]

Agree 100% This is exactly what I've been trying to say.


However I'll counter your point on Archer having quiet KGB: Danganronpa scum included 2 of the 3 most active posters in the game (myself and Tim). High activity doesn't guarantee (or even imply) innocence, it only guarantees that we will have more information to work with on those players.

Yeah, and you're right. This is specifically D1 we're talking about. Like I say (and you highlight) active players can be mafia, but they can also be caught at any point because they're active and can slip up. In my experience, quiet players tend to lose pressure on them after D1, because that's when the active players start to really come into the spotlight.

I am absolutely not saying 'four legs Active good, two legs inactive bad' universally. I'm saying that for D1, it's better to push the quiet ones and then let the active ones reveal themselves over the course of the game.

 

[*Splinter]

Ok I just re-read your argument and you didn't really say anything about actives. I was reading too much into the "quiet players are dangerous" line

 

[cabot]

I'm glad you brought it up though because I got to reference Animal Farm.

Today's officially a win in my book.

 

[Bananaspaceprincess]

I do agree with you guys, inactive player put as much of a spotlight on themselves than the very active once and maybe even more, but I also want to point out that there are players who are posting quite a bit but actually nothing but good old fluff is coming out of it.

Spoiler

Yes, I'm talking to you Nin!!!

I would rather judge players by the content of their posts than by their activity rate but after all it's still D1 and I guess we have to start somewhere...

 

[cabot]

This is the post I mentioned earlier. I feel like a lot could be inferred from that. I can explain better but it may start to give scum more info than I prefer.

Am i nuts? He hasn't done anything else odd

I haven't ignored this. Trying to think it through.

 

[*Splinter]

I would rather judge players by the content of their posts than by their activity rate but after all it's still D1 and I guess we have to start somewhere...

Yeah that's true, I only started with low activity as a shortcut to finding low contributors. I'm also suspicious of people who post a LOT of D1 nonsense - they could be artificially inflating post count to sidestep my previous line of thinking. I believe El Topo would qualify for this, but I'm happy with my vote on nin for now

 

[*Splinter]

Full disclosure: the person standing out to me most at the moment is actually Palmer, but I'd rather wait for a little more on him

 

[nin1000]

I also want to point out that there are players who are posting quite a bit but actually nothing but good old fluff is coming out of it.

Spoiler

Yes, I'm talking to you Nin!!!

President Barack Obama struck a hyperpartisan note Saturday, telling GAFia players that he was "amused" by the "Fluff" comments.
Obama, addressing a Democratic National Committee (DNC) fundraiser in Miami, did little to endear himself to the groups protesting around his posts, saying "they should be saying thank you" because of the awesome Posts he made.

 

[*Splinter]

nin are you planning to keep this up all game? Because if so I don't care what your alignment is

 

[cabot]

look at him go, he's going full retard.

You never go full retard, yo

 

[cabot]

SalvaPot - Hardly posted and only fluff, Sorian just voted here though so I'll let him handle it.

Burbeting - Does Burbeting really only have 9 posts?? He's made one of the biggest impressions already

nin1000 - hmm, yeah I don't like this one's start. I think it's all fluff but it's also designed to drag attention onto him. I don't know why he'd do that but I certainly don't feel compelled to trust him at the moment.

VOTE: nin1000

Any non-flavour thoughts on the game so far, nin?

That's our Burbeting, the man can drop potent bombs in a very efficient manner.

I'd like to say up front that I struggle to read Salva, I did when spectating and I spectacularly misread him in NX. I need more time to really have a strong impression on him. He does not post too often though, that's a constant.

Nin played a bit like this in AC, he gets quite far in games though, must be his um charm.

 

[nin1000]

Nin played a bit like this in AC, he gets quite far in games though, must be his um charm.

.

 

[CornBurrito]

Well, I got home and read thru what I missed but it's not that much, However, before going to sleep, I'll assign my vote once again.

VOTE: LaunchpadMcQuack.

Three reasons:

- I don't like your post on El Topo. Sure, he made a big deal out of an avatar and that has a 0.5% percent chance of being relevant, but (1) it's D1 and at the very least as a conversation maker it's something that should be brought up and (2) I also disagree with your appreciation on a post that's supposedly "mafia 101" because it says obvious pro-town things. Sure it does, but I'd rather have someone say those things, and it's even a freaking page 1 post! it's not like he's saying it now that the early-game banter is over where it'd seem out of place. Similarly, lynch vs. no lynch is always brought up even though the meta has settled on D1 lynch for a while.

- You seem to be carrying around too much luggage from previous games/that other ongoing one around, like you've decided for us how we're going to perceive you and preemptively saying you'll act different this time around. This is another game, relax.

- I do agree that El Topo's willingness to go after Cabot just because he says he's playing different is odd (I don't see it, but some people have mentioned it too so what do I know), but I find your attitude a lot more hostile and your hesitation to put a vote for him makes me feel like you either don't believe your own words as much as you say you do, or want to avoid fingers being pointed at you later,

So this post leads me to believe that el topo and fire lend are both Town aligned. I don't think scum would so passionately defend scum on D1. At the very least, it makes me think el topo is town.

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

Well, I got home and read thru what I missed but it's not that much, However, before going to sleep, I'll assign my vote once again.

VOTE: LaunchpadMcQuack.

Three reasons:

- I don't like your post on El Topo. Sure, he made a big deal out of an avatar and that has a 0.5% percent chance of being relevant, but (1) it's D1 and at the very least as a conversation maker it's something that should be brought up and (2) I also disagree with your appreciation on a post that's supposedly "mafia 101" because it says obvious pro-town things. Sure it does, but I'd rather have someone say those things, and it's even a freaking page 1 post! it's not like he's saying it now that the early-game banter is over where it'd seem out of place. Similarly, lynch vs. no lynch is always brought up even though the meta has settled on D1 lynch for a while.

- You seem to be carrying around too much luggage from previous games/that other ongoing one around, like you've decided for us how we're going to perceive you and preemptively saying you'll act different this time around. This is another game, relax.

- I do agree that El Topo's willingness to go after Cabot just because he says he's playing different is odd (I don't see it, but some people have mentioned it too so what do I know), but I find your attitude a lot more hostile and your hesitation to put a vote for him makes me feel like you either don't believe your own words as much as you say you do, or want to avoid fingers being pointed at you later,

- It's not a good conversation maker. It's really dumb, to put it bluntly. Having to affirm all the obvious mafia strategies, when everyone knows them and more importantly, a lot of people had already said the same thing, feels like a waste of time. Plus, he's agreeing with someone else about it, as if it were being contested.

- No? People have accused me of acting a way I'm not in this game. I was refuting that.

- I'm not being hostile, but I see that the above is not getting through to people - this is a different game; don't expect me to act the same way. I am not trying to sandbag anyone in any aggressive way here. You're reading my posts the way you want to read them, but I'm not being hostile. It's Day 1 - I've decided to take a different approach to things and not jump on something because it looks convenient or obvious. As a result, I've thrown my thoughts on El Topo out in the open because I want them to be discussed. That I didn't put my vote on him is irrelevant, but here it is.

VOTE: El Topo

I don't even think this vote is going anywhere, but there it's out there. What else would you like to know?

...so you agree with me? Man, I know I should sleep when I can't tell if someone is backing or countering what I said...

===

Anyway, Launch, if it isn't apparent from my post above, what I'd like you to answer is: Why did you not vote for El Topo in that post if you went so far as to "posit he's likely mafia"?

Again, it makes me think you're trying to start a bandwagon that you either don't believe in 100% or don't want to see traced back to you eventually.

I wanted it to be discussed before starting anything, even though Carrot is a crappy vote for today.

How is it odd that I'm going after Cabot for giving me a very different vibe from the last game I played with him? It's the first day and all we have is the flimsiest indication that someone might be mafia, so I think going after someone because of that is legitimate, more legitimate than going through first day posts, trying to decipher some hidden meaning.

For the record, I'm also sceptical of other players, but Cabot takes the cake for me. I can't even quite put my finger down, but it's just...off.

There are a lot of things you're doing that are odd. There aren't any "hidden meanings" - people talk or act a certain way when they want to convey something, whether they are cognizant of it or not. I find the way you've been acting very suspicious, far more than anyone else.

And to give this another layer, the people I specifically looked at were the people who had voted for Carrot. However, I was going to bring this list forward and it turns out a lot of those people were voting for fluff; you're the one, aside from Burb, that actually came on with a the intent of lynching Carrot. This also shows that you haven't read the situation before coming into the vote - it just looked like a nice train to you, so why not hop on?

 

[Never Forever]

we have less than twelve hours left

I urge people to vote for Nin if they have no better candidates in mind

he plays in this fashion in every game he's been in, including one where he was mafia, and he's not contributing that much to discussion either way. Somebody who posts nothing but nonsense is far more unlikely to trip themselves up and look suspicious in the long run as opposed to somebody who has a clear thought process you can follow. The only reason why he got lynched in Cthulhu was because he all but confessed to being a Cultist, otherwise he may have slipped by further into the game.

 

[nin1000]

we have less than twelve hours left

I urge people to vote for Nin if they have no better candidates in mind

he plays in this fashion in every game he's been in, including one where he was mafia, and he's not contributing that much to discussion either way. Somebody who posts nothing but nonsense is far more unlikely to trip themselves up and look suspicious in the long run as opposed to somebody who has a clear thought process you can follow. The only reason why he got lynched in Cthulhu was because he all but confessed to being a Cultist, otherwise he may have slipped by further into the game.

I hate to say it but voting someone off because you don't like how their play is not Gafia since I see every game as new way to play and start a fresh. Sorry to have killed you in the last game but as you stated yourself you were being kind of a bitch. Well that's all I wanted to say for that manner.

Have a nice day the next post will be fluff again, so feel free to rage about it mate :*

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

I like Nin. I think he's fun to have around.

 

[Fireblend]

I hate to say it but voting someone off because you don't like how their play is not Gafia since I see every game as new way to play and start a fresh. Sorry to have killed you in the last game but as you stated yourself you were being kind of a bitch. Well that's all I wanted to say for that manner.

Have a nice day the next post will be fluff again, so feel free to rage about it mate :*

I feel that voting someone out for his/her playstyle is justifiable if that someone and his posts are harming the quality of the conversation. I'd rather read through posts that contribute to hunting scum than people complaining about how you post and your unhelpful, obscure replies.

 

[nin1000]

I like Nin. I think he's fun to have around.

As President Barack Obama’s body man, LaunchpadMCQ makes sure the president has plenty of the things he likes — and makes note of those things he would rather avoid. Here is a partial list, provided by Mr. McQ.

LIKES

¶ LaunchpadMcQ

¶ Roasted almonds

¶ Pistachios

¶ Water

¶ Dentyne Ice

¶ Nicorette

¶ MET-Rx chocolate roasted peanut protein bars

¶ Vegetables, especially broccoli and spinach

¶ Handmade milk chocolates from Fran’s Chocolates in Seattle

DISLIKES

¶ Never Forever

¶ Never Forever

¶ Never Forever

¶ Never Forever

 

[Fireblend]

Also,

- I'm not being hostile, but I see that the above is not getting through to people - this is a different game; don't expect me to act the same way. I am not trying to sandbag anyone in any aggressive way here. You're reading my posts the way you want to read them, but I'm not being hostile. It's Day 1 - I've decided to take a different approach to things and not jump on something because it looks convenient or obvious. As a result, I've thrown my thoughts on El Topo out in the open because I want them to be discussed. That I didn't put my vote on him is irrelevant, but here it is.

Fair enough. If it helps you to understand my train of thought, I got the impression that you were being hostile from the "I posit that he's scum" part of your post. It felt like quite the leap even though I already said I agree with some of your posts, and not voting for him after you'd crossed that line seemed incongruous.

So this post leads me to believe that el topo and fire lend are both Town aligned. I don't think scum would so passionately defend scum on D1. At the very least, it makes me think el topo is town.

Thanks, but I wasn't defending him as much as I wanted to point out what seemed to me like a big accusation without conclusive justification. El Topo might as well be scum, he might even be a good candidate for today's vote. I'm not planning to get on anyone's good side by doing anything other than hunting scum.

 

[Never Forever]

I hate to say it but voting someone off because you don't like how their play is not Gafia since I see every game as new way to play and start a fresh. Sorry to have killed you in the last game but as you stated yourself you were being kind of a bitch. Well that's all I wanted to say for that manner.

Have a nice day the next post will be fluff again, so feel free to rage about it mate :*

I mean, what can I say? We clearly have different philosophies. I want to win.

thanks for giving me permission to rage babe, I'll be sure to do it quietly so it doesn't bother everyone else xoxo

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

Also,



Fair enough. If it helps you to understand my train of thought, I got the impression that you were being hostile from the "I posit that he's scum" part of your post. It felt like quite the leap even though I already said I agree with some of your posts, and not voting for him after you'd crossed that line seemed incongruous.



Thanks, but I wasn't defending him as much as I wanted to point out what seemed to me like a big accusation without conclusive justification. El Topo might as well be scum, he might even be a good candidate for today's vote. I'm not planning to get on anyone's good side by doing anything other than hunting scum.

It was more of a proposal than anything else. Sorry for the miscommunication.

 

[Haly]

CURRENT VOTES

Palmer_v1 (0)
Sorian

cabot (4)
Palmer_v1
kingkitty
Hyperactivity
Burbeting
nin1000
kingkitty
Hyperactivity
El Topo

kingkitty (0)
cabot

SalvaPot (1)
Sorian
cabot
Kalor
Sorian

Hyperactivity (0)
Kalor
Sorian

Kalor (0)
Fireblend
El Topo
Never Forever
Palmer_v1

Fireblend (0)
Hyperactivity

Sorian (2)
nin1000
LaunchpadMcQ
SalvaPot
kingkitty
Palmer_v1

bananaspaceprincess (2)
Sorian
Sorian
CornBurrito

El Topo (2)
cabot
cabot
cabot
LaunchpadMcQ

Burbeting (0)
cabot
Sorian

nin1000 (2)
Hyperactivity
Never Forever
*Splinter

Never Forever (0)
*Splinter

LaunchpadMcQ (1)
*Splinter
Fireblend

*Splinter (1)
nin1000

9 votes are needed for majority.

 

[Burbeting]

Burbeting - Does Burbeting really only have 9 posts?? He's made one of the biggest impressions already?

It's not the Quantity of the posts that matters .

Speaking about Cabbot (I won't use Carrot, sorry Launchie) case: I don't really think that playstyle changes are really indicative of a more "interesting" role. At least for me my changes in play are usually due to time constraints (if I don't have time to play, I usually can't post as much or can't be as active player as I would want to) or stradegy related. So I don't think Cabbots activity is really indicative of him getting a better role (like town PR). In reality, I think this mindset might be actually kind of dangerous, because we should push all players we think are suspicious.

Sorian pointed out that Cabot had actual reads for 4/16 people, which is still my problem. Why make complete reads where 75% of the reads are non-existent? It's just false contribution to me, and it's what made me feel weird in the first place.

Case Nin is making me confused with his antics. I know it's day 1, but really? I would really want to hear you post something actually contributive that isn't full of Obama-pictures. If it's real that Nin has been doing this in other games too (even in stuff where he was Mafia), this kind of worries me. We have "only" 16 players from the start, and the days are only 48 hours. That means we have to be efficient in scum hunting from the start, and if we have players who just interrupt and distract the game, it could be fatal to town.

On case El Topo, hmmh. Launch has some fair points in his post, but I don't really think they point out to El Topo being scum. I think it was bit unfair to call one of Topo's posts scripted, because it was so early in the game where most of the people were still just talking about fluff, so there wasn't really much to go with. I do agree that it was odd to talk so much about someone changing his/hers avatar, that is mostly non-issue for me.

 

[Sorian]

So I'll be on a plane most of the day (no, planes are not the new train, I flew to visit family last saturday and now I'm flying home) so I only have this morning time, about an hour during a connecting flight, and then I'll be in the middle of a 5 hour flight when time is going end so if Palmer wants to come forward with something more, I hope that's sooner rather than later because I'd rather not be thrown out of the game without even a chance to defend myself.

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Past that, I need to make a vote before I go and this will probably be my last vote for the day barring any near end nonsense that I see before I hop on my flight. I could go for someone who has been suspicious, Topo, Launch, Fire, Palmer, cabot (note, I don't find all of these individuals suspicious myself, just listing some that people have brought up recently) but because I am in the position where I will not be able to see any last minute defenses, I'd rather vote off a player who has been little help during day 1. Really that narrows me down to BSP or Nin. BSP has generally said a lot of nothing and has mostly spoken when spoken to but I'm reading that as new player instead of malicious scum. Which leaves me with Nin. Sorry man, we've given you a few chances across the first 36 ish hours and you just haven't said much of anything. I think even Blarg has said something of interest by now. So you get my vote, past that I leave it to town to make a more informed decision in my absence if they see something worth going for.

VOTE: nin1000

 

[cabot]

I would go with your false contribution theory If I had stopped there and done nothing more.

That didn't happen though.

 

[Sorian]

This is the post I mentioned earlier. I feel like a lot could be inferred from that. I can explain better but it may start to give scum more info than I prefer.

Am i nuts? He hasn't done anything else odd.

For now,

Vote: Sorian

I just want to note that I took a look at this again this morning and I still have no idea what you're going for. Not to say that posting was an exercise for me but I feel odd having a vote on myself that seems to have a logical background but I can't see that background so I'm trying to work through it.

 

[Burbeting]

I would go with your false contribution theory If I had stopped there and done nothing more.

That didn't happen though.

Right now I'm really thinking about changing my vote to nin. He might be funny, but right now we really don't have time to have players around who are not going to contribute anything. With 16 players, we might have 3-4 scums around, and with possible extra killing roles we really don't want to have around players creating confusion and distractions to the game.

I need to read through the topic with detail again, though.

 

[cabot]

I just want to note that I took a look at this again this morning and I still have no idea what you're going for. Not to say that posting was an exercise for me but I feel odd having a vote on myself that seems to have a logical background but I can't see that background so I'm trying to work through it.

I'm glad I wasnt the only one struggling.

 

[Sorian]

I think even Blarg has said something of interest by now.

Obviously when I say this, I mean in games where he plays, I know he is not a participant of this game.

 

[cabot]

Maybe a bit of pressure will force the president to do something that will benefit the nation.

 

[nin1000]

I mean, what can I say? We clearly have different philosophies. I want to win.

thanks for giving me permission to rage babe, I'll be sure to do it quietly so it doesn't bother everyone else xoxo

No biggie since it is only day one i dont have a read on anyone. I can go and follow my gut but that's all there is for now since no one claimed anything and well information has been nonexistent.

 

[nin1000]

Case Nin is making me confused with his antics. I know it's day 1, but really? I would really want to hear you post something actually contributive that isn't full of Obama-pictures. If it's real that Nin has been doing this in other games too (even in stuff where he was Mafia), this kind of worries me. We have "only" 16 players from the start, and the days are only 48 hours. That means we have to be efficient in scum hunting from the start, and if we have players who just interrupt and distract the game, it could be fatal to town.

As I responded to someone else we are pretty much following our guts on day one, I could of course understand if you would vote me out but rest assured I want to hunt down mafia scum as much as you want to.
Real talk but no excuse I had a lot of work in the last couple of days but it evened out so my posts will contain less Obama if the majority does not agree with me role playing.

 

[Fireblend]

My current thinking is nin is the best candidate we've got at the moment. Admittedly, Cabot's post was weird, I'm not a fan of day-1 reads because they feel like ways to reinforce bandwagons or get on other people's good sides early on, but I don't feel we have enough of a read on him to pass judgement; he's been mostly under the radar. Contrast that with how nin has gathered unnecessary attention to himself, with less than 24 hours to go til the day is over. Playing Blarg must be fun, but even he at least contributes in his own way; all of nin's post read like flavor.

 

[nin1000]

And sorry to disappoint you but there will be no 'list' coming from me :*

 

[Sorian]

As I responded to someone else we are pretty much following our guts on day one, I could of course understand if you would vote me out but rest assured I want to hunt down mafia scum as much as you want to.
Real talk but no excuse I had a lot of work in the last couple of days but it evened out so my posts will contain less Obama if the majority does not agree with me role playing.

I don't agree with you role playing but my vote stays on in lieu of no other better choices.

 

[nin1000]

I don't agree with you role playing but my vote stays on in lieu of no other better choices.

Since you said that it would be the last vote you would make today I can understand it but not agree with it.

 

[cabot]

Can I be under the radar and the top poster at the same time?

I don't think that makes sense.

What do I know, it's a GOP event after all.