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[cabot]

I'll amend the list with a bit more open insight now as I've role claimed. I'll remove the complete fluff ones and amend the remaining with reasons why:

1. LaunchpadMcQ [m]
Launch immediately playing down all fluff is bad in my book. America never underplays fluff. D1 lynch candidate.
Obviously at this point Launch had chose not to really be involved yet. He stepped up as we all see.

2. Hyperactivity [m]
Expresses disdain for me, and I welcome scrutiny.
I liked Hyper went on me pretty early, though I have somewhat changed since the feedback on the list. He's also been pretty quiet. I'm mildly suspicious of him.

5. Sorian [m]
Started off much like I expect, and for that I don't want to D1 him.
Sorian being Sorian. Nothing out of the ordinary. Taking the lead and trying to get as much information out of everyone as possible.

6. cabot [m]
Science is wrong. We still have winters, and I have to wear a jacket.
This was a reference to my role obviously. Thought someone would pick up on it because it wasn't the usual 'im town as fuck' line

7. Never Forever [m]
Taking the action early. I like early action.
Before this list, NF was trying to get the game going away from the fluff. I appreciated this and looked on it positively

12. nin1000 [m]
Obama avatar, liberal views. Thinks government should actually be useful. D1 lynch candidate.
I was surprised at the audacity of acting as Obama in a GOP themed Mafia game, think of it like El Topo except significantly less avatar based.

15. *Splinter [m]
I like him, he's reading into things. He will probably be rewarded.
He picked up on one of my earliest fluff comments regarding global warming. I read that as pretty astute. The rewarded was referencing actually being right

I'll reiterate before this list, it was almost all fluff minus a few attempts by NF and maybe one or two others to get the game going. It worked you guys, damn the doubters!

 

[Burbeting]

I don't think we have any real incentive to lynch Cabot today. The way his role works doesn't really scream scum to me at all, I feel like it's town role. Of course we can't be 100% certain about it, but like Palmer said, we can return to the subject later if there is some legitimate reasons to do it (for example if Cabot starts acting really scummy).

anyway, we can go back to the Burb/cabot interaction with different eyes now that we know that cabot is town, cabot was trying to move the game forward from the RP stage into the scumhunting/discussion stage

so Burb's response is interesting if only because he attempts to paint this pro-Town move in a different light, arguing that it's tryhard and contributing for the sake of contributing. He says that making a fluffy list like that is a scummy thing to do.

My stance about this is still the same. I think making lists that have 75% only fluff in them is a waste, and is an easy way for scum to look like contributive. Sometimes Scums don't want to make lists because they don't want to create accidentally bridges to their teammates that could be discovered later on by other people. So read-lists where almost everything is fluff enables scum to make a list to seem contributive, yet keep scum's relations to other players in the shadows. Well of course this doesn't mean that Scums never make lists, for example there was a scum in NX during day 1, but this is one possibility.

Obviously at this point I didn't know that Cabot is most likely Town, so I had to take things into consideration. Looking in retrospective, yes, Cabot was most likely aiming for pro-town actions with that list, but I didn't know that at that point.

 

[nin1000]

thinking that either of them is scum at this point pointlessly overcomplicates matters

the end

ll have to agree with you on that , seeing Sorian pushing for a caboth kill on day one seems retarded in my eyes, we should Focus on other matters that happened beforehand or on Players themselves. Dont get stuck in something that "for now" is not important anymore.

 

[Sorian]

ll have to agree with you on that , seeing Sorian pushing for a caboth kill on day one seems retarded in my eyes, we should Focus on other matters that happened beforehand or on Players themselves. Dont get stuck in something that "for now" is not important anymore.

I'm not pushing for anything, I'm offering an alternative if we don't find anything particularly scummy, I bring it up because past that whole storyline, I'm not sure if I've seen anything super lynch worthy yet so I'm still debating where I want to go.

I'm curious though cabot, something I thought about, what would your power have done if there was a tie?

 

[Never Forever]

That would include you aswell darling :*

yeah, of course it does

but anyone doubting me can look at Splinter's stalker exboyfriend post-by-post analysis, combine it with my further posts, and conclude that I'm Town, or at the very least more likely to be Town than most of the people in the game, and so not a very good candidate for Day 1 lynch, if we're looking for a player who is scummy and/or non-contributory. I think my motivation for voting for you at the time was blindingly clear.

anyway, the ppl who voted for cabot:
Burb - already discussed
Tim/CB - 'me too's and jumps on board Burb's argument without adding anything
kingkitty - same deal
Hyperactivity - same again, but he actually writes a lot more which boils down to exactly the same thing
El Topo - says that cabot's been playing differently, which is not something I'm in a position to dispute, and this analysis of his behaviour could be borne out by his role reveal, it's interesting that he added different content to the mix versus as opposed to the other three jumpers-on

ppl who voted for nin:
me - see above
Splinter - basically echoes me
Sorian - states that there's nobody better around

(basically it's day one so everyone's grabbing at nothing, hooray)

ppl who specifically avoided this sort of thing:
Launchpad paints himself as a defender of cabot here and states strongly he won't be voting for nin here. It's not unheard of for scum to make strong statements and to be seen to defend Town players so they can later turn back and say 'I told you so'. Also, earlier he tried to push the discussion towards people who specifically voted for the two in question. Eh, this is just something that stood out to me and I thought was worth bringing up whilst I had the chance. I know it's Day 1, mountains out of molehills, yada yada yada, but I think it's something people should bear in mind.

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

I'm curious though cabot, something I thought about, what would your power have done if there was a tie?

Probably wouldn't have worked, that's why he put his tie-breaking vote and the command in the same post.

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

ppl who specifically avoided this sort of thing:
Launchpad paints himself as a defender of cabot here and states strongly he won't be voting for nin here. It's not unheard of for scum to make strong statements and to be seen to defend Town players so they can later turn back and say 'I told you so'. Also, earlier he tried to push the discussion towards people who specifically voted for the two in question. Eh, this is just something that stood out to me and I thought was worth bringing up whilst I had the chance. I know it's Day 1, mountains out of molehills, yada yada yada, but I think it's something people should bear in mind.

"Bear" in mind? You're better than this.

Anyway, yes, I agree with you. I'm the first one to point out that the mafia are the ones who know who is mafia and who isn't - it's very easy for a mafia to stand here and say "no don't lynch him, he's town", because they'll be right. However, I'm just following my instincts here. I'm not about to tell you guys that I'm innocent just because of that, because I wouldn't even believe it. I asked for us to focus on those who voted for Cabot and Nin because it's a small pool of players, and there's bound to be something there. It's just a matter of figuring out that something is.

 

[Sorian]

I'm boarding my longer flight now so I'll be out until later tonight. I'll post my thoughts once I'm on a computer again.

 

[nin1000]

I'm boarding my longer flight now so I'll be out until later tonight. I'll post my thoughts once I'm on a computer again.

no Need for that , have a nice flight.

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

no Need for that , have a nice flight.

lol

 

[*Splinter]

Ok nin can stay

 

[CornBurrito]

My vote was evidently misplaced

I don't think scum players extend the day

UNVOTE

May not be able to change my vote for a little bit, so calm down if I'm don't have my vote on someone for some time

Actually, I'm going to be a bit contrarian on this. Day 1 is probably the best day for scum to extend if they had an extend ability. Because Day 1 is still basically a crapshoot. Though I think its more that this ability makes like zero sense as a scum ability. Though... that actually makes it a decent scum ability if bluffing is your thing.

 

[CornBurrito]

Nevermind, didn't see the second part of his ability.

 

[CornBurrito]

I highlighted fluff earlier in the day because I did drop several hints about Ted Cruz's maybe probably inaccurate views on global warming, The flavour of my PM :

I post BUT THERE’S SNOW OUTSIDE in the thread to check if the person with the most amount of votes is GOP or not. The moderator will post the following in the thread:

If the player is GOP: I KNOW, RIGHT?
If the player is not GOP: SEEMS A LITTLE WARM.

Not that I think anyone doubted this but to be clear, the wording of my PM hints to neutral roles

I'm not sure if this is kosher or not to mention, but the DR game win conditions for scum and Town also strongly hint at a neutral role, but there doesn't actually seem to be a neutral role in that game. Granted the game isn't over yet. It is possible that the game developers are purposely leaving it ambiguous so that we won't know in any given game if there is/isn't a neutral faction.

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

I'm not sure if this is kosher or not to mention, but the DR game win conditions for scum and Town also strongly hint at a neutral role, but there doesn't actually seem to be a neutral role in that game. Granted the game isn't over yet. It is possible that the game developers are purposely leaving it ambiguous so that we won't know in any given game if there is/isn't a neutral faction.

Don't discuss ongoing games man, come on

 

[Hyperactivity]

I see a few people have been suspicious of how quiet I've been. It's mainly because I'm busy all day. I've been able to occasionally check what's going on, but that's it, and will be going full mobile soon too (and checking in even less than normal)

Should be able to post normally again by the evening (afternoon here right now)

 

[CornBurrito]

Don't discuss ongoing games man, come on

Won't happen again

 

[Hyperactivity]

I'm not sure if this is kosher or not to mention, but the DR game win conditions for scum and Town also strongly hint at a neutral role, but there doesn't actually seem to be a neutral role in that game. Granted the game isn't over yet. It is possible that the game developers are purposely leaving it ambiguous so that we won't know in any given game if there is/isn't a neutral faction.

Not kosher

 

[CornBurrito]

So can like... we get temporary permission to edit our posts so I/Launch/Hyper can edit out that quote then?

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

Forget it, just don't talk about it again

 

[CornBurrito]

Forget it, just don't talk about it again

In my defense, I haven't said anything that isn't already known to all the viewers and players of that game. But yeah, I'll refrain from mentioning it ever again while its ongoing.

 

[roytheone]

In my defense, I haven't said anything that isn't already known to all the viewers and players of that game. But yeah, I'll refrain from mentioning it ever again while its ongoing.

Since Launch is the mod of that game, everything he would say as a response to your post could be interpreted as hinting at things. So he basically can't react to your post, which is unfair.

 

[Ourobolus]

Please keep the meta-discussion free of currently-running games.

 

[Ourobolus]

CURRENT VOTES:

Palmer_v1 (0)
Sorian

cabot (1)
Palmer_v1
kingkitty
Hyperactivity
Burbeting
nin1000
kingkitty
Hyperactivity
El Topo

kingkitty (1)
cabot
LaunchpadMcQ
Fireblend

SalvaPot (0)
Sorian
cabot
Kalor
Sorian

Hyperactivity (0)
Kalor
Sorian

Kalor (1)
Fireblend
El Topo
Never Forever
Palmer_v1
*Splinter

Fireblend (0)
Hyperactivity

Sorian (1)
nin1000
LaunchpadMcQ
SalvaPot
kingkitty
Palmer_v1

bananaspaceprincess (2)
Sorian
Sorian
CornBurrito
Kalor

El Topo (0)
cabot
cabot
cabot
LaunchpadMcQ
LaunchpadMcQ

Burbeting (0)
cabot
Sorian

nin1000 (0)
Hyperactivity
Never Forever
*Splinter
Sorian
LaunchpadMcQ
cabot

Never Forever (0)
*Splinter

LaunchpadMcQ (0)
*Splinter
Fireblend

*Splinter (1)
nin1000

DAY 1 ENDS AT

 

[nin1000]

He talks like a truck driver, He doesn’t have his facts, he’ll say anything that comes to his mind.” Obama said on an interview with GAF. On the Issue with NeverForever and Firebend he continued to say

“All the guys on GAF flirted with me — consciously or unconsciously. That’s to be expected.”

Later today Barack Obama was saved by fellow teamember Ted Cruz.
He pulled a stunt nobody expected and shocked GAF with an interesting new Twist nobody was expecting in this game. He revealed that by forcing everyone to vote for Obama he would then see if the was indeed a President that could be trusted.
In the end Obama was indeed American and now Cruz aswell as Obama will now spend a great time at GAF together

 

[Never Forever]

okay, you win, I may have just cracked a smile

Ouro, would you mind editing the updated countdown into one of the first few posts?

 

[Hyperactivity]

VOTE: SalvaPot

I´m back!

I have to say everyone is full of shit in this game, I have yet to see an opinion that matters.

I would agree that Sorian´s and Cabot´s idea of voting the inactive is a good one right now, I feel we tend to fight among the ones that want the attention, and usually the ones that want the attention are town, because if they are scum they tend to slip.

Anyway, I don´t have a good read yet and everyone is going in circles with the same arguments, so far the game has been this:

Granted, on day 1 is going to be hard to get much info. Best we can do is grind a player until he either softclaims (SOFT, PLEASE) his usefulness to town, or get a random lynch based on, honestly, arbitrary reads that you all know means nothing at all.

Now I´ll be paying attention to what you all have to say, I may not catch you today, but I will eventually.

Also I think read lists are stupid, but that is just me. I´ll rather have a list of real reads (like, you have reads on, say, 3 players) and the others just admit you have nothing yet, no one is going to call you out on that, I think. Also it makes it easier to spot when you are covering for someone if you are scum, so I guess that is why huge lists are popular *shrugs*

UNVOTE

Here are my thoughts.

I am now sure Cabot ability is, no, HAS to be GOP aligned, for the simple reason that the command and its action only makes sense for a town role (or maybe a neutral with a defined win condition, but this one is unlikely)

The reason for this is that Scum players don´t need to identify each others because, with the exception of a lost partner, they always know who each other is and have a chat to talk about this stuff, a power that lets you find out an alignment is pretty much pointless for scum players.

Lynching Cabot is a waste of time, and for scum killing him is a waste of time... but scum will want to kill Nin to see what his role is. If nin dies in the night then we get confirmation for both of them.

Unless Scum players are to afraid to kill either of them because they are "smart", in that case they can just kill someone at random. Either way cabot is as good as confirmed townie, same as nin, why shouldn´t we enjoy something good and focus on players we know nothing about yet?

These are the only 3 posts from Salva I've found saying anything of "substance", and each and every single one of them says nothing but the obvious. His 1st and 2nd posts especially perfect the art of saying absolutely nothing while still talking, and while the 3rd does bring up one half decent point on nin, it also manages to say things like

I am now sure Cabot ability is, no, HAS to be GOP aligned, for the simple reason that the command and its action only makes sense for a town role (or maybe a neutral with a defined win condition, but this one is unlikely)

The reason for this is that Scum players don´t need to identify each others because, with the exception of a lost partner, they always know who each other is and have a chat to talk about this stuff, a power that lets you find out an alignment is pretty much pointless for scum players.

Either way cabot is as good as confirmed townie, same as nin, why shouldn´t we enjoy something good and focus on players we know nothing about yet?

No shit sherlock.

Fuck what I said about cabot before his power use, SalvaPot has really managed to say absolutely nothing whatsoever while sorta looking like he is saying something

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

lol

Guys, take it easy with the inactives. This is how Salva plays; he's gone for a certain amount of time, then appears with a burst of activity. That's just how he is.

I can tell you with a some degree of certainty, the mafia in this game are most likely the medium-high to medium-low range of posting. That's just me talking out of my ass, but my instinct tells me this is the case this time, as there are only a handful of true low activity posters.

 

[Fireblend]

I just realized the new countdown's ending early tomorrow for me so there's a chance whatever my vote ends up being tonight is going to stay like that til the end, damn.

For now I have no reason to take my vote off Kitty though. I've been updating this thread regularly but it feels like we haven't been able to establish much after the first reactions to Cabot's play. It's been mostly people stating the obvious and the new lynch candidates have as good a case built against them as Kitty's lack of contribution and his reaction when I called him out on it . *shrug*

 

[Hyperactivity]

lol

Guys, take it easy with the inactives. This is how Salva plays; he's gone for a certain amount of time, then appears with a burst of activity. That's just how he is.

I can tell you with a some degree of certainty, the mafia in this game are most likely the medium-high to medium-low range of posting. That's just me talking out of my ass, but my instinct tells me this is the case this time, as there are only a handful of true low activity posters.

I know fully well what burst posting is like, that's exactly how I tend to post
Inactivity doesn't mean much

Not saying anything useful can indeed mean something, and if salva had said anything of note in his non-flavor posts, then I wouldn't be so bothered

 

[Fireblend]

I can tell you with a some degree of certainty, the mafia in this game are most likely the medium-high to medium-low range of posting. That's just me talking out of my ass, but my instinct tells me this is the case this time, as there are only a handful of true low activity posters.

This is such a bullshit empty statement. Get out of here with this shit.

 

[Ourobolus]

okay, you win, I may have just cracked a smile

Ouro, would you mind editing the updated countdown into one of the first few posts?

Done.

 

[Fireblend]

This is such a bullshit empty statement. Get out of here with this shit.

(That was my Darryl impression. Was it good?)

Seriously though, "certain degree of certainty"? "medium-high to medium-low range of posting"? "true low activity posters"? Mind defining any of those terms? Might as well have said "yep, someone among us is scum for sure!" I'm not a fan of setting mammoth-sized goal posts you get to move to earn yourself some credit later.

That's some of the best GOP role playing I've seen so far in this game.

 

[Hyperactivity]

(That was my Darryl impression. Was it good?)

Seriously though, "certain degree of certainty"? "medium-high to medium-low range of posting"? "true low activity posters"? Mind defining any of those terms? Might as well have said "yep, someone among us is scum for sure!" I'm not a fan of setting mammoth-sized goal posts you get to move to earn yourself some credit later.

That's some of the best GOP role playing I've seen so far in this game.

GOP don't say nothing saying something

They just say something really fucking stupid and then try and sell it as just saying nothing saying something

 

[Never Forever]

thank you Ourobolus

okay, so that list of votes is a wasteland

may as well throw mine back onto a person who hasn't really made much of an impression on me and hasn't really done/said much of anything aside from when prompted

VOTE: kingkitty

 

[Burbeting]

Since cases Cabot and Nin are most likely in the "Town" drawer, I decided to look at the people who I meantion earlier for flying under my radar:

Speaking of mafia getting away, here is the list of people who have been definitely flying under my radar so far:

Hyperactivity
bananaspaceprincess
*Splinter
Kingkitty

Although I decided to drop *Splinter from that list, for the reason that he had actually contributive posts and has been generally helpful to the game, and I’m not sure why he flew under the radar the first time for me. I’ll look at the other three though, by analysing their every post one by one.

Let’s go.

bananaspaceprincess

First posts are kind of fluffy and not much is going through them. Her first post where she says ”I look forward to lynch someone on this phase”. It almost sounds like a predator waiting for someone to do a bad move, and then leap to it. Not necessarily scummy thing to say, but it sounded odd.

Then she voted kingkitty because… she liked the nick and avatar? Even for a fluff reason that was strange. Again, nothing that really points out to being a scum but still. To be fair, at that point lot of people did have fluff-votes on people, a practice that I don’t really agree on, but eh.

After that one more fluff post and then first contribution from our BSP (sorry, your nick is so long I have to shorten it). It’s nothing huge, but does make a point that Cabot and Nin are most likely town, something that was in hindsight right. At the same post she talks about ”hint hunting” that brings back that first post of looking forward to lynch. Ehh…

Her last posts were post-Cabot/Nin reveal. They were short, but I did agree with the point that we maybe shouldn’t vote off Cabot today.

In general, there’s not lot to go for now about BSP’s posts. Only thing that really struck off to me was that ”predator-ish” kind of acting, but I’m not really connecting it to Scum-like behaviour, to tell the truth. She is first time player in GAF, but in general I usually don’t want to use that as an excuse to justify someones behaviour. But still for now, I don’t really see much to be suspicious of her, but that’s partly because she hasn’t said that much for now.

I’ll post stuff about Hyper and Kitty in next post.

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

This is such a bullshit empty statement. Get out of here with this shit.

WOAH MAN DONT GET SO AGGRESSIVE

Spoiler

/s

It is a somewhat empty statement, but do you honestly believe the mafia are inactives?

 

[Burbeting]

Hyperactivity

He has posted an average amount (more than me at this point, at least), but first 1/3’d of it is nothing but fluff and filler. I know Cabot made a case for Filler, but I guess that’s again we two standing on two sides of the question, because I don’t think fluff isn’t really that helpful for the game unless you are breadcumping, and even then it’s not really that advisable. But anyway, everyone posted lot of fluff for the first 4-5 pages, so it’s not really surprising that lot of Hypers early posts were exactly that.

After that he voted Cabot, with nothing new to say about him than retract on the arguments I had made bit earlier. Now, I still think that my argument was at least okay for D1, but it does look bit like Hyper is jumping bit easily to the bandwagon here.

After that… it’s more fluff and commentary on Cthulu game. The next real posts Hyper makes are post-Cabot/Nin reveal. He unvotes Cabot, which is tad convenient to him since now he didn’t really need to back up his reasoning for the vote anymore.

After that he votes Salva and… I think it’s really ironic that Hyper votes Salva for not posting much, when in reality Hyper hasn’t posted much more either… at least not much that isn’t fluff or commenting on Cthulu game. And yes, I agree with Launch here that you could have given Salva the benefit of doubt at that point, since the game hasn’t been running for that long at that point.

In general, Hyper’s vote for Salva was preeetty ironic looking at his own post history. Okay, he did post some thoughtful stuff in his both Cabot and Salva votes, but other than that…. fluff and stating pretty obvious-ish stuff. Not that great of a track record really. Can’t really say if it’s scummy, but he does have my attention now. The vote for Salva at least for now look like he was searching for a easy target to vote (at this point of the game). The vote would have more merit to it if the game was farther on at this point, so I will monitor Salva too to see, if he actually arrives to give more of his thoughts about the game.

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

Since cases Cabot and Nin are most likely in the "Town" drawer, I decided to look at the people who I meantion earlier for flying under my radar:



Although I decided to drop *Splinter from that list, for the reason that he had actually contributive posts and has been generally helpful to the game, and I’m not sure why he flew under the radar the first time for me. I’ll look at the other three though, by analysing their every post one by one.

Let’s go.

bananaspaceprincess

First posts are kind of fluffy and not much is going through them. Her first post where she says ”I look forward to lynch someone on this phase”. It almost sounds like a predator waiting for someone to do a bad move, and then leap to it. Not necessarily scummy thing to say, but it sounded odd.

Then she voted kingkitty because… she liked the nick and avatar? Even for a fluff reason that was strange. Again, nothing that really points out to being a scum but still. To be fair, at that point lot of people did have fluff-votes on people, a practice that I don’t really agree on, but eh.

After that one more fluff post and then first contribution from our BSP (sorry, your nick is so long I have to shorten it). It’s nothing huge, but does make a point that Cabot and Nin are most likely town, something that was in hindsight right. At the same post she talks about ”hint hunting” that brings back that first post of looking forward to lynch. Ehh…

Her last posts were post-Cabot/Nin reveal. They were short, but I did agree with the point that we maybe shouldn’t vote off Cabot today.

In general, there’s not lot to go for now about BSP’s posts. Only thing that really struck off to me was that ”predator-ish” kind of acting, but I’m not really connecting it to Scum-like behaviour, to tell the truth. She is first time player in GAF, but in general I usually don’t want to use that as an excuse to justify someones behaviour. But still for now, I don’t really see much to be suspicious of her, but that’s partly because she hasn’t said that much for now.

I’ll post stuff about Hyper and Kitty in next post.

RE: your list

Hyperactivity seems determined to try to make something happen.

This is BSP's first game. She hasn't posted much, so I don't think you or anyone else really has an impression of her just yet.

*Splinter is kind of middling. If anything, this may the most suspect of the players in your list. However, I don't have anything concrete to add. He's definitely seemingly trying to push the seams and see what comes loose from the players, so it's town-like behavior so far.

kingkitty is kind of bothersome. His posts (and I may be counting a little bit from other games) range anywhere from no solid information or justification, to loads of it. He's a player you definitely start to get a much better impression as the game proceeds; kind of a moving target in that sense.

 

[Fireblend]

WOAH MAN DONT GET SO AGGRESSIVE

Spoiler

/s

It is a somewhat empty statement, but do you honestly believe the mafia are inactives?

No. Are you saying that's what you said? That the mafia probably isn't inactive? Jeez, thanks Sherlock. Good job using 4 sentences full of non-statements and empty terminology to say it.

 

[Hyperactivity]

WOAH MAN DONT GET SO AGGRESSIVE

Spoiler

/s

It is a somewhat empty statement, but do you honestly believe the mafia are inactives?

You don't try to read activity

I honestly believe this is mostly useless.

The top posters are trying to gain trust and lead town, they are scum.

The medium posters are blending in, they are scum

Even the super low activity players (at least for the first couple days) are scum, they're trying to get you to use reverse psychology.

You can run around in this circle day after day after day, but the only true conclusion is that there's no way to predict. You might have said the high activity players were scum and verb completely right one game, but it might be completely different the next game

It only really makes sense to read the posts themselves, and see what's said in them. If you don't see anything of substance, you may have a scum player. If they actively have a pattern of distracting and diverting, you may have a scum player. If you're going to make a read, don't make it purely based on the pure activity of the player

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

(That was my Darryl impression. Was it good?)

Seriously though, "certain degree of certainty"? "medium-high to medium-low range of posting"? "true low activity posters"? Mind defining any of those terms? Might as well have said "yep, someone among us is scum for sure!" I'm not a fan of setting mammoth-sized goal posts you get to move to earn yourself some credit later.

That's some of the best GOP role playing I've seen so far in this game.

Mammoth-sized goal posts is what I got right now. It's Day 1. I'm surprised as hell there are two players I can take off my list at this point, and you should be too.

I'm just saying that mafia tend to play the middle of the road.

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

No. Are you saying that's what you said? That the mafia probably isn't inactive? Jeez, thanks Sherlock. Good job using 4 sentences full of non-statements and empty terminology to say it.

4/10, needs more insults

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By the way, isn't it a bit ironic you're going after Salva for lack of content, when you haven't said anything of worth until just now when you're going after Salva?

 

[Hyperactivity]

Trying to say that yes, I could believe that low activity posters are scum, because I don't think that that's as useful of a metric.

So if I post a lot and don't say anything, vs not posting much but helping direct conversation, I would consider the 2nd me less suspicious

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

Trying to say that yes, I could believe that low activity posters are scum, because I don't think that that's as useful of a metric.

So if I post a lot and don't say anything, vs not posting much but helping direct conversation, I would consider the 2nd me less suspicious

I misread your post, sir. I thought you were targeting Salva for low activity, I'm just trying to make a point that it's not a good metric.

 

[El Topo]

UNVOTE: cabot

I forgot to unvote him. The (wonderful) flavor of his ability screams GOP, so I'm willing to believe him (for now). That said, if we want to lynch someone, whoever we choose should have enough time to give a defense to avoid a repeat of the first day of the Archer game, i.e. we should decide early enough on who to lynch.

As I have expressed my disdain for overanalysing first day posts, I will refrain from doing so. However I would like to express my fear that there are some posters that are less about accusing others and more about clearing the name of other players (and subsequently themselves in the process), as well as some that are intent of not getting their hands dirty. It's something I don't like about these long lists where half the entries are "Town" or "Nothing on Him". If you got nothing, say nothing.

Another thing one could do is accuse a player, then (if necessary) get easily "persuaded" by him that he is innocent. It's those things I would do as mafia player, because it builds up trust, one doesn't get any heat for accusing other players and one stays away from other mafia players. Of course the cheap alternative is not posting.

Now I know that if I don't give you a name, I will get accused myself. Happened to me last game. So let me, as we say in Germany, put the butter by the fishes and say that I don't like Burbeting's "Here's some analysis of players, they might or might not be mafia".

Obviously this is only preliminary and I'm willing to let him convince me otherwise, but for now:
VOTE: Burbeting

 

[Hyperactivity]

By the way, isn't it a bit ironic you're going after Salva for lack of content, when you haven't said anything of worth until just now when you're going after Salva?

Ironic, but it also make sense. Am I supposed to suspect a player that I believe is helpful to town and moving the conversation along? No

I voted salva because I was going through people posts (by person, not through the thread) and his posts stood out. I'm aware that I haven't been helpful to town upto now, and is like to be helpful to town, so I went and pointed out a somewhat suspicious lack if substance from a player. If salva came in here and started actually saying something, then my vote would be off of him. And if he doesn't, then I'm not too bothered if he's lynched, because he wasn't helping town out much anyways

 

[Burbeting]

kingkitty

Kingkitty has posted moderately much, although I will say always that the quantity of the posts is not always indicative of the players activiness or contributiveness, since the postcount is easily inflated by either filler or one-sentence-long posts that don’t really put things that much forward. That’s one of the reasons why I’m vary of Launch’s ”people who post average amounts have scum in them”, because while it may be true, people who post lot might be ”average” in reality as well.

I mentioned it here because like with Hyper, Kitty’s early posts are too just fluff. While not necessarily scummy, it does inflate his postcount quite a lot. And then there is that just weird game with *Splinter. What was the point of that?

The first contributions to the game were talking about Cabot breadcrumping with Palmer, and then voting for him later. There was some thoughts before it, but I do think that kingkitty’s reasoning for voting Cabot was kind of weak.

Then there’s that short discussion with Palmer. and then Kitty says that ”I’ll keep my vote on Cabot.” Since I think his reasoning was weak from the start, it was odd that he seemed so sure about keeping that vote on him. (Now, you could say the same about me, if you think my reasoning for voting Cabot was weak. I understand that.)

After that kitty posts after Fireblend and me have voiced some mild concerns about him. I mentioned that I felt he got overly aggressive about those mild suspicions. He gets does downplay that as humor, but I don’t know… it seemed bit overblown for some reason.

In Kitty’s later votes one thing struck really odd, it was the ”oh I had a legit idea in my mind why Cabot was not scum but eh I voted anyway”. Oh really now? This could easily be scum trying to justify himself in hindsight… ”Well I did think you were possibly a good guy after all!”

As Launch said, kitty seems bit bothersome at this point. The scummiest out of these three flying under my radar at least.

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Also El Topo, I'll look at your vote next, but it's 2am here so there is a slight chance I might not be able to post about it until tomorrow. I'll try to post now though!

 

[CornBurrito]

4/10, needs more insults

This is incorrect. Quantity can be replaced by quality. The only insult actually needed is "chucklefuck" or "chucklefuck bitch" if you are feeling extra angry.

 

[SalvaPot]

VOTE: SalvaPot







These are the only 3 posts from Salva I've found saying anything of "substance", and each and every single one of them says nothing but the obvious. His 1st and 2nd posts especially perfect the art of saying absolutely nothing while still talking, and while the 3rd does bring up one half decent point on nin, it also manages to say things like







No shit sherlock.

Fuck what I said about cabot before his power use, SalvaPot has really managed to say absolutely nothing whatsoever while sorta looking like he is saying something

The first one was a bit late, but if you read carefully I was the first to point out the "obvious" in said posts. I was the first to point out list of reads are stupid, then everyone followed, since everyone has such a list boner.

Its silly to say I am just pointing the obvious, because pretty much is all I can do right now, since I don´t have any other information besides my own role. Do you any information the rest of town is not aware of?