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Election 2016 [Mafia] | Everlasting GOPstoppers
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Blargonaut
Banned
Hey, what if we lynch Blargonaut instead?
Blargonaut
Banned
UNVOTE: Blargonaut
VOTE: El Topo
#scumtell
Damn, I'm suspicious
VOTE: El Topo
#scumtell
Damn, I'm suspicious
Blargonaut
Banned
CornBurrito
Member
You joke I think but literally the only defense for Blarg seems to be that Cabot knows him from another game when he was town but acted the same way.
He also role claimed. You can't honestly believe that mafia would role claim Jeb Bush.
CornBurrito
Member
I don't know why I keep forgetting this.
CornBurrito
Member
Though part of why I wanted everyone who hasn't name claimed to name claim is because we could figure out if scum was possibly given fake names. But everyone would need to role claim at around the same time.
CornBurrito
Member
I don't know why you guys bothered unvoting to prevent a turbo if you weren't going to use the extra time to talk.
...Isn´t it odd?
No one has come forward to try and defend El Topo. At all. The closest I can think is Blarg who has done random votes here and there. If Mafia is down too only two members and with the huge advantage town has right now you´ll think they will try to get someone else lynched, together.
Blargonaut
Banned
sry, busy making my reads list
btw, I'm lazy, what are the rest of the current name claims in play right now, amongst the eight of us left?
CornBurrito
Member
I have time so I'll give a full list in order of reveal I guess:
cabot - Ted Cruz
kingkitty - Mike Huckabee
Sorian - Ben Carson
Burbeting - Bobby Jindal
El Topo - Chris Christie
Salvapot - Ron Paul
Lone_Prodigy - Donald Trump
Kalor - Rick Perry
Hyper - Atheist
Cornburrito - Roger Ailes
BSP - Undocumented Immigrant
nin1000 - Lindsey Graham
Blargonaut - Jeb Bush
*Splinter - ???
Fireblend - ???
I think that's everyone unless I missed something. Bolded are ones 100% verified via death.
Blargonaut
Banned
For a lazy person you sure took your time to make a gif about ignoring me.
CornBurrito
Member
Dunno why I even wasted my time getting that list for Blarg.
Blargonaut
Banned
CornBurrito
Member
Going to bed.
Blargonaut
Banned
The delay in my acknowledging of your kind assistance was due to me sitting before my keyboard with a grave expression and hunched demeanor, as I deeply ruminated upon the possible implications of me thanking you in public making you guilty by association; terrible, terrible things have happened to those who chose to help me and I wished to avoid damning you to that same accursed fate, but the eventuality of me having to openly share my sincere, heartfelt gratitude to you in front of the others could not be escaped.
Forgive me, CornBurrito.
Blargonaut
Banned
I'm assuming that this post by SalvaPot is in response to my GIF, in which case, LALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALA CAN'T SEE YOU *plugs eyes*
Blargonaut
Banned
btw, El Topo can support my candidacy all he wants and it's truly, truly appreciated; however, if you are indeed scum Electorate, maneuvering to enshrine me on a pedestal, only to postmortem-ly incriminate me via martyrdom in a bid to save whomever kinsmen you have left for at least one more Day, is NOT an effective heat shunt at all, old sport
Jeb Bush doesn't lie
Jeb Bush doesn't lie
I've been wondering about this to be honest... We had a similar thing yesterday.
Just swell
I don't know how many times he can say we learn nothing from his flip, but it's wrong, wrong and wrong again.
He flips scum, yay. He flips town, we have CB looking suspicious for pushing on him and El Topo's points about the role claims that aren't actual candidates are helpful.
On the other side it's essentially lylo, so there's a bit more pressure.
Self voting though, that should be a crime.
He flips scum, yay. He flips town, we have CB looking suspicious for pushing on him and El Topo's points about the role claims that aren't actual candidates are helpful.
On the other side it's essentially lylo, so there's a bit more pressure.
Self voting though, that should be a crime.
1) El Topo is town.
- He's been at hammer point a few times already and no one has taken it. Could be read either way, though considering we're so close to lylo it would take an extremely cautious mafia member to not hammer him.
- Self voting as town is the worst.
2) El Topo is mafia, only remaining mafia left
- No. I'll discount this. I don't believe there's only two mafia in a 15 player game, with one neutral that has a mafia win condition. Could that neutral essentially replace a third Mafia member? I doubt it, though other thoughts are welcome.
3) El Topo is mafia, not the only remaining mafia
- It's odd that his other team member doesn't seem to be doing a good job trying to protect him. Is it because it was so universally agreed that Topo was a good lynch target today that questioning it in any real way would attract suspicion?
OK, I've actually read up on this now.
1) I see why El Topo self voted, I don't see why he is still voting for himself.
2) Salva being unable to hammer made me briefly think he was the missing link in my question of why hasn't someone hammered El Topo yet. I'm trying to think of a Mafia bomb? It doesn't make sense does it. Also don't buy the SK theory. Not yet.
3) Does a Mafia with two night kills exist? maybe a mafia with one extra kill role and the other mafia did the second kill?
I say this because CB said after all that stuff in the last day phase about wanting nin and I to choose a target for him to kill. That could backfire for us if we chose town, I don't know if CB would legit try and play us as mafia if that happened but it was an option.
I still think choosing BSP was 'safe', it was a kill that a mafia could have made to show town allegiance, but also couldn't hurt mafia (or town) because she was neutral.
Now, was it luck that she flipped to have a mafia win condition, or did a mafia member know of her win condition? I see three possibilities outside of luck
1) Mafia investigative role, BSP revealed her role, they investigated that night and saw her role details.
2) A mafia member may have a PR that specifically mentions BSP/a neutral who will help them win in their role description.
3) They are highly astute and picked up on her flavour (which many questioned) and assumed that she was not actually pro-town.
I must admit, I am actually weakening my resolve after moaning about it, but El Topo is throwing shade all around which is annoying.
CB is still a bad smell to me. Both of them seem to be certain I am who I say I am so that isn't helpful either.
Does anyone have any thoughts on this?
1) I see why El Topo self voted, I don't see why he is still voting for himself.
2) Salva being unable to hammer made me briefly think he was the missing link in my question of why hasn't someone hammered El Topo yet. I'm trying to think of a Mafia bomb? It doesn't make sense does it. Also don't buy the SK theory. Not yet.
3) Does a Mafia with two night kills exist? maybe a mafia with one extra kill role and the other mafia did the second kill?
I say this because CB said after all that stuff in the last day phase about wanting nin and I to choose a target for him to kill. That could backfire for us if we chose town, I don't know if CB would legit try and play us as mafia if that happened but it was an option.
I still think choosing BSP was 'safe', it was a kill that a mafia could have made to show town allegiance, but also couldn't hurt mafia (or town) because she was neutral.
Now, was it luck that she flipped to have a mafia win condition, or did a mafia member know of her win condition? I see three possibilities outside of luck
1) Mafia investigative role, BSP revealed her role, they investigated that night and saw her role details.
2) A mafia member may have a PR that specifically mentions BSP/a neutral who will help them win in their role description.
3) They are highly astute and picked up on her flavour (which many questioned) and assumed that she was not actually pro-town.
I must admit, I am actually weakening my resolve after moaning about it, but El Topo is throwing shade all around which is annoying.
CB is still a bad smell to me. Both of them seem to be certain I am who I say I am so that isn't helpful either.
Does anyone have any thoughts on this?
OK, last post of this chain I promise
I've decided I would like all non-claimers to now claim. We can discuss how it can be done in more detail, but I'm beginning to think that it will help us at this stage in the game where we are 1 away from lylo.
Here's my reasons
1) Mafia NK will flip a town, and will confirm that claim.
2) I want to see if there are more non-candidate claims
3) We're at that point now where there is a light risk, but I mean we're in serious trouble if we mislynch today and having as much information as possible can only help us.
I'd like thoughts from everyone, right about now. Or as soon as humanely possible.
I've decided I would like all non-claimers to now claim. We can discuss how it can be done in more detail, but I'm beginning to think that it will help us at this stage in the game where we are 1 away from lylo.
Here's my reasons
1) Mafia NK will flip a town, and will confirm that claim.
2) I want to see if there are more non-candidate claims
3) We're at that point now where there is a light risk, but I mean we're in serious trouble if we mislynch today and having as much information as possible can only help us.
I'd like thoughts from everyone, right about now. Or as soon as humanely possible.
Blargonaut
Banned
You mean name-claim, right? If so, I agree
I can name claim if we want. Now or after discussion? I don't think it matters. Three of us left and plenty of names to choose from so I don't have high hopes for this. I could be wrong though.
Anyway I too thought about possible SK theories and the lack of kill N2. Lone_Prodigy could have protected someone before he died? Still my main problem is finding a theory to fit all the claims and possible lies without there being 4 Mafia or other stupid things.
Anyway I too thought about possible SK theories and the lack of kill N2. Lone_Prodigy could have protected someone before he died? Still my main problem is finding a theory to fit all the claims and possible lies without there being 4 Mafia or other stupid things.
Correct.
I don't really know how to do this to be honest, i was thinking maybe seeing if everyone was around and posting within a short time frame , but I'd rather we do it with a decent chunk of the day left.
I'm going to go ahead and say I want to be last. I think the breadcrumbs I've left lead to one and only one candidate, and I'm still hoping for the outside chance that someone accidentally claims my name.
I know that breadcrumbs are inherently flawed though, so it's up to you guys.
I know that breadcrumbs are inherently flawed though, so it's up to you guys.
Well, he died during N2, so...no?
Ah, good.
He's like a doctor - he wouldn't get any notification if anyone tried anything to his target.
Breadcrumbs are useless on me, I don't even know who Chris Christy is and apparently he's super well known according to what El Topo says, L_P and Hyper also picked it up.
Breadcrumbs are different to hints though. Hints are supposed to be guessed, breadcrumbs aren't and should only make sense in hindsight.
The problem with breadcrumbs is I could in theory have separate trails leading to multiple candidates, but I think I can show that this isn't the case.
At one point Chris Christie was considered the next big hope of the Republicans.
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