The balance is fine. It's brutally difficult if you stray too far from safety, but Gothic 2 with Night of the Raven installed was like that too.
I haven't ran into any bugs in several hours either, this isn't Gothic 3.
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Elex |OT| Gothic 5: Risen From Jank
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The balance is fine. It's brutally difficult if you stray too far from safety, but Gothic 2 with Night of the Raven installed was like that too.
I haven't ran into any bugs in several hours either, this isn't Gothic 3.
When you say "sneak", are you making sure to use the actual sneak skill, or just walking? I ask because some other guy earlier in the thread didn't realize that there is an actual sneak mode that prevents people hearing you.
wait hold up - theres a THIEVES GUILD?!?! Im 13 hours in and have only heard of the big factions no guilds. where do i find this and can i join? are there other guilds?!
The balancing seems to be spot-on for what they are (seemingly) trying to achieve. You will have to be warry of your surroundings even on higher levels, making exploration a lot more interesting and challenging. It takes a very long time until exploration is a walk in the park like in TES.
Low level enemies also give you very low XP while high level enemies give you a lot of XP in comparison. Early on when you can beat low level enemies, you are mostly doing talking and walking quests anyway, after some time you can start to actually tackle higher level enemies.
arts&crafts
Member
I think balance is intentional. They want you to be weak at the start. I am actually enjoying it because in almost all RPGS you are very overpowered. It was a problem with Risen 3 too.
Moff
Member
the thieves guild is not a joinable faction, but still a very cool questline in the game. they give you about a dozen quests for stealing certain items in the three faction cities.
it's very hard to miss.
https://guides.gamepressure.com/elex/guide.asp?ID=41926
Barberetti
Member
Could you (or another kindly adventurer) let me know which keys are locked please?
loganclaws
Plane Escape Torment
The E and Q key are locked, you can't bind E to move forward for example. All the number keys are locked for your item belt. I managed to get around all this using AutoHotKey for now.
Thanks! I ended my play in Vitos. bar last night and had just talked to him. Nothing about this came up so im not sure if i did something wrong there... but i see there is an alternate way to get into this so ill use that
ok heres a pretty insane tip to turn ressources into elex potions (playing german version so not sure on the exact english item names):
Step 1: making cash
craft energy storages (the clerics consumable) - small ones cost 1 sulfur or iron + 1 electrical waste. Turn small ones into the higher version till you can get to the highest version. The exchange rate is 1:1 each level for some weird reason.
The highest version sells for 50 credits. At level 15 i had enough material to make 190 of them, which is almost 10k credits.
Step 2: Buy pure elex
Olutlaw camp has quite a few Elex vendors. Doc, however seems to be a special cake, as his Elex stocks replanishes instantly after trading -> endless stream of elex. You need to do a little sidequest to unlock him as a vendor though
Step 3: Turn elex into elex potions
attribute points, or skill points however you see fit.
This gave me 50 attribute points more or less for free now.
Have fun
You probably can make this even more effective by purchasing the haggle skill
Step 1: making cash
craft energy storages (the clerics consumable) - small ones cost 1 sulfur or iron + 1 electrical waste. Turn small ones into the higher version till you can get to the highest version. The exchange rate is 1:1 each level for some weird reason.
The highest version sells for 50 credits. At level 15 i had enough material to make 190 of them, which is almost 10k credits.
Step 2: Buy pure elex
Olutlaw camp has quite a few Elex vendors. Doc, however seems to be a special cake, as his Elex stocks replanishes instantly after trading -> endless stream of elex. You need to do a little sidequest to unlock him as a vendor though
Step 3: Turn elex into elex potions
attribute points, or skill points however you see fit.
This gave me 50 attribute points more or less for free now.
Have fun
You probably can make this even more effective by purchasing the haggle skill
MosquitoSmasher
Member
I saw this comparison of PC, PS4 and Xbox One.
https://youtu.be/r2pFXf4cbk8
Honestly in this video the differences aren't nearly as big as i expected, but then again this is YouTube and never a truly great way to see diference in comparison videos.
https://youtu.be/r2pFXf4cbk8
Honestly in this video the differences aren't nearly as big as i expected, but then again this is YouTube and never a truly great way to see diference in comparison videos.
Moff
Member
I noticed that too, that's obviously a bug, but certianly a very powerful exploit get rich easily, and since you can basically buy levelups in this game that's pretty gamebreaking.
Barberetti
Member
Yeah you sure its vito? Talked to that guy too and done all quests in doomed city no memtion of a key. I'll talk to him agaim but yeah this questline is not "not hard to miss".
I was going to make a joke about "being one of the proud four people that posted in this two page thread" when it popped up but pleasantly surprised to see how lively the thread is.
Anyone know of any traders outside of the Hort that sell fuel for the flamethrowers?
The armory master just keeps giving me guff about not trading right now and probably shouldn't really rely on them for that since I imagine I'm going to end up pissing them off down the line somehow anyway.
Roude Leiw
Member
3 hours in. quite like it.
i paid the guy at they gate for his "good woord". turns out it was a waste of money.
Glad I dodged that one
His Majesty
Banned
I love those small, unexpected twists. There is another one early on where
you can ask for a low reward, a high reward or whatever the quest giver feels fair. You get much more when asking for the last.
Roude Leiw
Member
ragna dude said something like: "gatekeeper speaks very highly of you but he can be bribed easily so i don't believe him."
Cosmic_Guru
Neo Member
Don't worry, you can deal with this guy later on.
The Domed City set up is rather tasty indeed.
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
I'm 20 hours in and starting to turn the corner. I've gotten my stats up high enough to use one of the better weapons I've found. It inflicts bleeding, which seems to work pretty dang well. Now I'm managing to kill larger monsters.
I don't know about long-term consequences.
But...
I don't know about long-term consequences.
But...
There's a village where you can have all of your companions move to. One of the villagers there will give you 500 xp + bonuses for every companion you recommend.
Unfortunately that didn't help in this case but I'll remember that for my pickpocketing shenanigans!
I was in actual sneak mode but I was moving too fast or when I at least slowed down I was able to grab it
EDIT - I seem to be pissing off everyone in this game! I have such a way with people.
OK so thieves guild quest is not triggering in my game. That fucking sucks...
Edit: stole the key instead. We'll see if it works this way. Gonna try find the entrance.
Edit 2:
Edit: stole the key instead. We'll see if it works this way. Gonna try find the entrance.
Edit 2:
Can confirm stealing key and looking up where the entrance is works. Also this place is a fucking gold mine if you got pick pocket. Holy crap
BlackSalad
Member
Anyone know the door code in the converter in Elan?
15 hours in, I haven't seen any.
Moff
Member
You can enter from the sewers. I did it that way.
loganclaws
Plane Escape Torment
Zero communication from PB, it's embarrassing. Compared to Larian or CDPR, it's like they just don't give a fuck.
Roude Leiw
Member
i tried killing some strong mutants with my companion. I always let him do the work. but one mutant pushed him over a cliff into the ocean and i thought he died.
Mutant attacks me and i think, ok that's it ill die too. but then to my surprise my companion came flying in with the jet pack and saved my butt.
Mutant attacks me and i think, ok that's it ill die too. but then to my surprise my companion came flying in with the jet pack and saved my butt.
kittoo
Cretinously credulous
I think the only, kind of annoying thing about the game is that you'll run around trying to find quests and you have no idea if you can do it or not until you are in the middle of it. Then when you find out you can't, you'll either have to cheese it which is fine if you can or leave in the middle of the quest and try to find more quests that you can actually do. Except it just leads to more quests you can't do yet.
I wish there was maybe a better way to hint if you can actually accomplish the quest or not.
I wish there was maybe a better way to hint if you can actually accomplish the quest or not.
MosquitoSmasher
Member
I checked out World of Elex and its forum and I didn't see a thing yet about a patch. How long did it take for their previous games to receive a patch or news of it? It's only been a few days since release.
Just when I think I'm done it pulls me back in. Got a companion, a woman in the domed city who has been a great help, stole a laser gun and did some quests, trying to level up to use it though combat is a bit better with a meat shield acting as a distraction.
Thosw gifs show a night and day difference.I just bought it on GOG and I leaky like the exploration that PB keeps rocking since Gothic 1. I don't know however, why they won't return to Risen 1's combat system as I find it way faster, responsive and a bit more skillful. Even Risen 2 and 3's weren't that sluggish. But of course all of them look kind of ridiculous witht the dodge roll compared to Risen 1.
I don't mind the difficulty, however. PB's games (before the awful Risen 3 balancing) was always about testing your (character) limits. There were areas you weren't supposed to visit. This is still an RPG and not an action adventure. And even if you were strong enough to beat one enemy easily, fighting two or even three at the time could completely turn the tides against you.
My buddy and I are playing PB's games since their very first release of Gothic 1 and we are still excited about their games. All of them have this special "PB charm" you won't find in RPGs made by a team with the size of PB.
Ive had the same problem. Dont even think about doing all of Edan then skipping Abessa/Domed City -i went to Hort and got quests and could not do a single one lol. So now im back in Abessa which is still tough. At least i finally upgraded from my Rusty Hatchet to Hatchet after 12 hours lol!!!
Barberetti
Member
I just caved. Got the GoG version, and there's already a patch there for it. I assume that's an earlier one?
Dr. Kitty Muffins
Member
I went ahead and bought it to support the developer. I knew I was going to buy it eventually and waiting for a sale and the inevitable patches would just hurt the developers. I will just try it out and then wait. I'm willing to believe this game is an unpolished diamond in need of post launch loving. It will be fun watching it evolve over time.
This confused me for a while too, but turns out you don't find the code anywhere, its a hacking mini-game. When you are on the keypad screen, press Z (keyboard) / Triangle (PS4) / Y (XB1) to enter the hacking mini-game to hack the keypad (you don't need any hacking skill for this particular keypad, there are some like this that can be hacked with 0 skill).
The hacking game also took me a while to figure out how it works, and I'm not sure I completely get it, but its a variant on the old board game Mastermind. You have 4 numbers to try, between each number is a < or > sign. The < or > sign tells you if the next number is larger or smaller than the previous number. After you guess, the numbers you guess are labeled. Red numbers mean they are the wrong number, yellow means they are the right number but not yet in the correct position. That's what it seemed worked for me anyway.
Yeah, that's the day one patch that was already on Steam.
Moff
Member
I had similar thoughts in the beginning.
But no, that would hurt the game, I think that is an important issue so I'll elaborate.
We need to stop making games feel like checklists. It destroys them, it destroys immersion,the game becomes work, a chore, if you no longer experience it yourself.
Think about it, what would you do if the quests had level requirements on them? You would ignore all of them instead of getting out into the world and experiencing it.
Quest markers are bad enough already, we don't need the game to tell us when to do what, too.
Besides, progression doesn't really work like that in the game, what if you just level social skills in the first ten levels, how would you solve a level 10 quest with level 10 enemies when you still have level 1 weapons and armor? This game is not supposed to be played like that. You need to experience it and learn things for yourself, and getting your ass kicked is a big part of that.
Lactose_Intolerant
Member
TheChewyWaffles
Member
So this game is good