Ninja Scooter
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ToxicAdam said:
more like 3/4 of a good season. He seemed to come down to earth as teams started to figure him out. I would just ditch him and throw Brady Service Academy into the mix.
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more like 3/4 of a good season. He seemed to come down to earth as teams started to figure him out. I would just ditch him and throw Brady Service Academy into the mix.
FrenchMovieTheme
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let jared allen go you asshole chiefs! have you no shame? he just wants to be happy. let him come to san fran!
p.s. derek anderson isn't going anywhere. he is a RFA, cleveland doesn't have to pay him shit. they can match any offer he gets, but that team has to give up a 1st and 3rd for him as well. no one is going to do that*
* keep in mind the redskins already have a QB
p.s. derek anderson isn't going anywhere. he is a RFA, cleveland doesn't have to pay him shit. they can match any offer he gets, but that team has to give up a 1st and 3rd for him as well. no one is going to do that*
* keep in mind the redskins already have a QB
obijkenobi
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Former Patriots video assistant hints at team's spying history
Walsh suggested he could have blown the whistle long ago, if he'd been so inclined.
"If I had a reason to want to go public or tell a story, I could have done it before this even broke," he said. "I could have said everything rather than having [Eric] Mangini be the one to bring it out."
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Despite suggestions that he could be a player in expanding the Spygate probe, Walsh repeatedly has refused to provide ESPN.com with any evidence of wrongdoing by the Patriots. He also has refused to confirm that he has tapes in his possession.
Walsh said he is fearful of possible legal action against him by either the league or Patriots if he details what he knows. He refused to provide evidence of potential wrongdoing unless ESPN agreed to pay his legal fees related to his involvement in the story, as well as an indemnification agreement that would cover any damages found against him in court. ESPN denied his requests.
He said he fears the potential wrath of the Patriots, and their ability to tie him in up in court for an extended period of time. Although he stopped short of saying he has actual video evidence, he suggested he does; and so raised the possibility that it might be viewed as stolen property.
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At one point, when the discussion turned to potential evidence, he said, "I'd use it if they came after me. The last thing I need is for people to make a case against me."
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3226465
Walsh suggested he could have blown the whistle long ago, if he'd been so inclined.
"If I had a reason to want to go public or tell a story, I could have done it before this even broke," he said. "I could have said everything rather than having [Eric] Mangini be the one to bring it out."
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Despite suggestions that he could be a player in expanding the Spygate probe, Walsh repeatedly has refused to provide ESPN.com with any evidence of wrongdoing by the Patriots. He also has refused to confirm that he has tapes in his possession.
Walsh said he is fearful of possible legal action against him by either the league or Patriots if he details what he knows. He refused to provide evidence of potential wrongdoing unless ESPN agreed to pay his legal fees related to his involvement in the story, as well as an indemnification agreement that would cover any damages found against him in court. ESPN denied his requests.
He said he fears the potential wrath of the Patriots, and their ability to tie him in up in court for an extended period of time. Although he stopped short of saying he has actual video evidence, he suggested he does; and so raised the possibility that it might be viewed as stolen property.
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At one point, when the discussion turned to potential evidence, he said, "I'd use it if they came after me. The last thing I need is for people to make a case against me."
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3226465
Qwerty710710
a child left behind
Come on g-men beat those fucking pussy ass patriots.
Ninja Scooter said:
It wasn't even that the league figured him out as much as that he just wasn't playing all that well to begin with. He had a pretty miserable completion percentage and his play was the result of a great group of receivers (They had a #1 guy, an elite talent level tight end, and a historically reliable possession guy). Even when he was seemingly on fire, it was because he got a lot of yards and a decent number of touchdowns, but he was still wild and throwing interceptions.
I think the Browns would be crazy to offer him a long term contract right now, but they are the Browns, so I rule nothing out.
soulja224466
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http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/football/patriots/view.bg?articleid=1070762
theyre even worse cheaters than i first gave them credit for....
theyre even worse cheaters than i first gave them credit for....
kbear
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This is absolutely despicable. ESPN just posted a story about it: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs07/news/story?id=3227245soulja224466 said:
That Rams team was so much better... it was a powerhouse, they would've destroyed New England if not for this. To anyone that doesn't know what a "pre-game walkthrough" entails:
That's HUGE... and the NFL is helping cover it all up. They haven't even contacted Walsh.
This is an obvious cover-up. The NFL doesn't want to be tainted.
Needless to say, LET'S GO GIANTS!!!!!!!!!
Nameless
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FrenchMovieTheme said:
Theres a very outside shot of us getting Anderson. Its very unlikely but the while we can't offer our 1st & 3rd round picks and force the Browns to match our offer(due to the fact that our 1st round pick originally belonged to the Colts) they can however accept it if they wanted.
Anderson + Martz= Greatest Shown on EARTH V1.
FrenchMovieTheme
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derek anderson is a potential fraud. i might give him a shot if he was a straight up FA, but i want to see what martz can do with alex first.
I love all you guys reachin so fucking hard for these cheating claims. Let me just ask, when was the best season for the patriots? Oh yeah that's right THIS YEAR. They were clearly already exposed earlier this year, no way they can do it all again, so good luck spinnin that one.
FrenchMovieTheme
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they already taped all 31 NFL teams and have live feeds at all times.... assisted by goddell! lets bring this bitch down fellas!
Its scary to see it all potentially crumbling down around you.woodchuck said:
It is scary to wake up and find out that everything you love was one big dirty lie.
I didn't elect Specter, but if he exposes the Cheatriots then I will vote to reelect his heroic ass.
And ESPN is going to explode if it surfaces that the Pats videotaped the Rams plays prior to the Superbowl. Goodell is obviously trying to make this go away as other teams probably cheated as well and he doesn't want to deal with the scandal. I would be lying if I said I wasn't loving it.
soulja224466
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kbear said:
no shit! ive been saying this for years, but all i ever heard was "bitter tears boo hoo"...we beat their ass in the regular season, in their house. it took videotaping, bad calls, no calls, and a straight up mugging to beat us by 3 points.
soulja224466
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bionic77 said:
exactly! they were so lucky to win the raiders game, then somehow the steelers game, then the rams game!
i wont comment on the other pats superbowl teams, because i dont care. but i knew something was fishy with that 2001 team from the get go.
vas_a_morir
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bionic77 said:
Hey, do you remember when Big Ben was saying shit after the 2004 AFC Championship? He accused them of "knowing what I was going to do before I did it" or something to that affect. I think this will ruin Bellicheat's legacy.
I wish I could say I believed the Pats cheated against the Steelers, but that was just the Steelers giving the game away to an inferior team by playing the worst special teams game ever seen.
That Steelers team was scary with a lead against anyone, but once they got down they could lose to anyone, even the Pats.
Still, I hate the Pats. I am proud my state is helping to distract the world from the SB and casting more doubt on this evil franchise and I believe any negativity or conspiracy theory concerning the Pats.
That Steelers team was scary with a lead against anyone, but once they got down they could lose to anyone, even the Pats.
Still, I hate the Pats. I am proud my state is helping to distract the world from the SB and casting more doubt on this evil franchise and I believe any negativity or conspiracy theory concerning the Pats.
Ben just played like a rookie in that game. The Pats didn't make him throw some garbage throws to the wrong spots in that game. Trust me, I more than anyone want to blame the Pats for anything but I didn't get that feeling from that game. It was just a rookie qb who was not ready to play on that stage.vas_a_morir said:
Archaix said:
true.
but i remember hearing some sort of rumor early on in the season about how he was unhappy with the coach and the approach. something about being a running team.
but maybe that was before warner stepped in.
anyway if he was on the trading block....acquiring him would have to be the move eagles have to make.
soulja224466
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kbear said:
the rams were back then basically what the pats are today...everybody hated them and wanted to see them fall. thats why nobody outside of rams fans saw anything fishy about their superbowl win.
vas_a_morir
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bionic77 said:
Are you calling your Messiah a liar? I... I believe. I believe.
vas_a_morir
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bionic77 said:
Well, either way, more is coming out about this. I'm not usually a hater, but I think this would explain a lot.
Ninja Scooter
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I can't believe some of you are actually believing this.
FrenchMovieTheme
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omfg the pats cheated in '04 in the final game of the season against us. you ruined Rashaun Woods' career pats! revenge next year in san fran!
Ninja Scooter
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bionic77 said:
they weren't caught, they were set up.
Wellington
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Tom Penny said:
I'm talking moreso about the Pats O than their D. The Pats morph into whatever they want now? if you said that about the Cowboys, yeah I'd take that, as I said above they beat the shit of us on the ground or through the air, whenever they wanted during the season. Your Pats? I've always said that Maroney is a top ten RB in this league, just look at his season stats to see his worth.
As you examine those season stats scroll down to the Giants game, where the Pats tried to get physical and ran Maroney 19 times for an incredible 49 yards. Amazing how the Pats OLine was blowing the Giants DLine off of the ball. Did you get to see the first half of the NYG @ DAL playoff game? That's the OLine dominating the D, and one team overall just crushing the other.
On the Pats D, as I mentioned above it will be important to grind it out due to the age of the LB corps. Further, Ellis Hobbs really beat up Plaxico last game, I hope he can turn it around a bit tomorrow.
You're right though the Pats really stepped up like men against the Giants when they were getting pushed around. Scoring a go-ahead bomb TD on the worst safety in the NFL and a guy that was injured on the play before shows how physical the Pats can get.
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Qwerty710710
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obijkenobi said:
WOW what a fucking disgrace I hope Patriots get stripped of all there titles they won this decade. Plus get a major ass kicking by the G-Men tormmow . Fucking cheaters
Wellington said:
So Maroney running bad without 2 of are starting O lineman and our best blocking tight end is your proof :lol Yet you still lost the game. Good luck tomorrow. You'll need it.
On a side note I love the people claiming we beat the Rams watching they're walkthrough. All teams wait until Saturday before the SB to gameplan for a team. Such morons :lol He laid out the actual gameplan in a book. Go read it yourself fools.
Tom Penny said:
Exactly. With them back in the line up, the Pats line with Maroney made the Jag and Charger D their bitch and these were two teams who were supposed to be able to beat up the Pats Line. I am not saying that the Giants D can't do this to the Pats line but to call the Pats a mere finesse team who can't get it done in the trenches is absurd.
FrenchMovieTheme
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correction, they did cheat in the first game of the season!
nincompoop
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http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=940DE4DB153DF931A35751C0A9649C8B63
It's a good thing the Patriots caught the cheating Rams* and prevented them from adding another tainted championship to their legacy.
FrenchMovieTheme
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now we're talking brother!
p.s. faulk didn't score, he would've fumbled in the air!
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