This thread is about to get legit as hell. Bring on the E. Warren younger days pics!
Elizabeth Warren 2016
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This thread is about to get legit as hell. Bring on the E. Warren younger days pics!
A less bigoted Deku
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Watched her interview with Jon Stewart last night. Great points, but even he had to pull her back. She may suffer a bit from the Howard Dean syndrome ; way too intense for the general electorate.
In all serious though, the immediate goal it to get Kennedy's seat back in Democratic control this year.
In all serious though, the immediate goal it to get Kennedy's seat back in Democratic control this year.
Did he really? Thats so shitty if true.
BobsRevenge
I do not avoid women, GAF, but I do deny them my essence.
Sam Harris is my God, and Elizabeth Warren is my Jesus.
I would vote for Elizabeth Warren. But I agree that Hillary would be a shoe in for the nomination if she decided to run.
I'm also wondering if the current governor of Montana, Brian Schweitzer, is going to have a run at it. I would think he would be able to appeal to more moderates coming from a state like Montana and being anti-gun control, but he's also supported a plan for single-payer health care in his state based on the Canadian system.
I'm also wondering if the current governor of Montana, Brian Schweitzer, is going to have a run at it. I would think he would be able to appeal to more moderates coming from a state like Montana and being anti-gun control, but he's also supported a plan for single-payer health care in his state based on the Canadian system.
teruterubozu
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It would be the ultimate foreign policy/domestic affairs duo, but you're right it would never happen. Warren seems too frail for a high profile presidential run, plus in some ways she's even more polarizing than Hillary when it comes to reaching across the aisle.
SteveWinwood
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I would love for Wesley Clark to run for pres. I love him so much.
But he's too smart to get back into politics
But he's too smart to get back into politics
Who the fuck cares about polarizing? Republicans have polarized the country to hell already. No matter how much Democrats compromise, Republicans will never budge. Look at all the stuff they cut out of the health care bill and still not a single Republican voted for it.
Why be so worried about being acceptable to Republicans when NOTHING the Democrats offer is acceptable to them anyways? It's not like Republicans would vote for a less polarizing Democratic ticket, so why not just put together a GOOD ticket? After Obama the scary black man with the Muslim sounding name, no ticket of liberal women could possibly be any scarier or polarizing.
Also, campaign money doesn't seem to have as much of an influence on elections as it used to (given how Romney spends so much but has been struggling for months to beat candidates who barely have money simply because nobody finds him likable), so even if a Clinton/Warren ticket scares away the bankers, they can make up for it with a smart social media push and rich friends with SuperPACs. Not to mention that they'd eat up a ton of women votes just by the novelty of a double woman ticket (and white blond ones, so not scary to old ladies).
Warren is someone who sounds honest and passionate and says reasonable things. I think she would really connect with voters.
teruterubozu
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I would love for Wesley Clark to run for pres. I love him so much.
But he's too smart to get back into politics
I liked Clark too. But it's almost like I don't want people I like to run for prez anymore. I used to like McCain too in 2000, but 2008 really destroyed his image. Running for POTUS is harsh and it's not something you really wish on "good" people.
Yeah, I know, I know. But even Obama had to run on "reaching across the aisle" in 2008 when he had the majority locked down and he will likely repeat the same phrase in 2012. It sux but the "government working together" farce always rears its ugly head.
elrechazado
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Parties care about polarizing, because if you nominate a partisan that the fickle middle doesn't like, you end up with George McGovern. If parties want to lose elections though, they can totally nominate Newt Gingrich or Dennis Kucinich or Ron Paul.
Except Warren is no Gingrich when it comes to independent appeal. She's not a serial divorcer who calls on America to put it's poor children to work as below-minimum wage janitors so that the blacks can stop collecting food stamps.
you wont even remember her come 2016
elrechazado
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Paul isn't that either. Way to miss the point? People are throwing out a freaking bernie sanders ticket in here. Use your head man.
Paul would do ok with independents compared to Gingrich. I think Warren would do even better. Not to mention that she'd drive the GOP crazy and might make them less appealing to independents at the same time.
elrechazado
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Ok, like I said, have fun with that nomination!
Technosteve
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i gave her money
Kitschkraft
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I would love to have someone like her representing me, assuming she doesn't turn into another jackass.
elrechazado
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I think she'll totally win her senate election. I'm talking about in a general. For president.
Fusion Pizza
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I like that she actually knows what the fuck she is talking about.
Gentleman Jack
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Not everyone you like needs to run for President.
I'd rather she stayed in a focused role like the one she holds with the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau or, if she wins a congressional seat, whatever committee she lands on than run for national office and have to invent views I don't like in the process of the requisite kowtowing to interests like unions, environmentalists, AIPAC, etc.
I'd rather she stayed in a focused role like the one she holds with the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau or, if she wins a congressional seat, whatever committee she lands on than run for national office and have to invent views I don't like in the process of the requisite kowtowing to interests like unions, environmentalists, AIPAC, etc.
i'd vote for her
Homegirl needs a history book and a look at our country's tax records.
Apparently, all it takes is a contrarian statement for the uneducated sheep to come crawling...
http://www.wwlp.com/dpp/news/Brown--Warren-work-to-curb-attack-ads
So there will be no negative attack ads, so nothing negative will be put on the table.
Gentleman Jack
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Are you going to elaborate on this or are you just fishing for anger?
Karma Kramer
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She is so cool
iNvid02
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wonderkins
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.Not everyone you like needs to run for President.
I'd rather she stayed in a focused role like the one she holds with the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau or, if she wins a congressional seat, whatever committee she lands on than run for national office and have to invent views I don't like in the process of the requisite kowtowing to interests like unions, environmentalists, AIPAC, etc.
Elizabeth Warren is an exceptionally smart person, a fantastic advocate of financial reform, tireless, etc. But in no way is she electable as a presidential nominee. I think the Senate would be a great place for her type of dogged yet disarming type of personality. Wish I could vote for her. Would do so without reservation.
Karma Kramer
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GAF needs to stop being so concerned about electability and take some notes from the tea party and advocate the candidates that most reflect them do run. The national narrative will never change if we continue to compromise our values for the sake of winning.
elrechazado
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That worked out well for their agenda when they totally whiffed on electing senators in places like nevada. If parties want to pander to their hard core base, they can enjoy their lessened influence.
also, GAF? How about "the entire political world for hundreds of years"
That pic is fishing for anger just as much as my post, and is making an aggressive statement with no documented backing just as mine was.
I'd rather play dota than argue with gaf over politics, sorry.
Holy shit, we've got a historian here with a stack of "tax records." Stand back!
Karma Kramer
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Well there are stark contrasts between many Tea Party candidates and Warren. I don't think Warren is an obstructionist. She is just saying all the right things and is sensible enough to understand how to enact progress.
We need more like her and the only way to make that happen is to support her. Her chances of winning a 2016 presidential election is irrelevant at this moment in time, considering how far away that is.
Princess Carl
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Then don't bring it up if you're just going to drive by post. Bye
Riposte
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Hit and run. (Wave while you do it.)
I think she might be electable, if we are just considering personality.
Gentleman Jack
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The difference is that you painted everyone who cheered the quote as 'sheep' whereas the only target of her rhetoric are the 'bootstrap' crowd of ultra-rich perceived to swim in Lowtaxia at everyone else's expense. She didn't insult you; you insulted folks in this thread. Nothing to do with politics, just how you express yourself.
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SteveWinwood
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Why post at all?
Dude can't impart a lifetime of conservative-libertarian knowledge on you in a simple GAF post, dude. Look, you either read Bill Kristol's books or you don't. You know?
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The Everyman
the rich in the US were taxed much, much higher in the past
Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
Sorry, what's that? I stopped taking you seriously the moment you used the word "sheep".
Seriously, I hate the way people use that word these days.
It doesn't take a historian to know that the majority of tax rev (which as you know pays for things like education and construction) doesn't come from "the rest of us". The same applies to charitable giving. Nor should a woman with a gargantuan pension funded by the endowment of those she is attempting to vilify, use the term "the rest of us".
The majority of the posts in this thread and every other political thread here are drive by posts, and one day when you start your own forum you can moderate posts like mine. Enjoy the stay.
Buckethead
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I quite liked what I've seen of Ms. Warren.
Finally, one man brave enough to stand up against the pervasive problem of 'drive by' political posts, by using such articulate and persuasive arguments as "homegirl needs a lesson in tax something-or-other."
How is sophomore philosophy going? Have you read 12 pages of Hegel yet? Shit is cray.
SteveWinwood
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No they aren't. At all. People back their opinions up (no matter how popular) most of the time.
Invisible_Insane
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You meant sophomoric philosophy, certainly.
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