Emily Rogers: Splatoon Switch is not a sequel, allegedly. Same for Mario Kart.

If a customer didn't care about the Wii U offering these games, I can't imagine why they would suddenly be interested in the Switch offering these games.
Speaking for myself here, but the Wii U never appealed to me. The console seemed like a half-baked concept, and neither Nintendo nor the public ever seemed confident about it. The Switch feels totally different and actually has a lot of appeal. I'm actually excited about Nintendo hardware for the first time in nearly ten years.
 
If these are ports, even enhanced ports, then it's over for Nintendo. They are just so out of touch with the market.

Actualy, understanding that the wiiu had awesome games that nobody played for reasons of BEING ON ONE OF THE BIGGEST FAILURES IN RECENT YEARS is being pretty on touch with the market =P

Besides the fact that the market dictates that "hd remaster everywhere" and Nintendo was the first company to ever do a remaster with Mario All Stars
 
For me, I'm personally happy with all of the potential ports, since I've missed out on all Wii U games after fall 2013. I always wanted to play Splatoon, it looks fantastic. Same with Mario Maker, if they can get it working somehow.

Ports and remasters have their place, even if some aren't happy with them! It helps fills in the gaps between the new things.
 
Fine with me but hopefully they will be 40€ rather than full price. Also I won't mind ports galore at all if it gives a steady release calendar.
 
This thing is going to have like 1 or 2 original launch titles and a dozen ports isn't it?

Kind of OK with this, the Wii U had a lot go great titles many people didn't get to experience since sales (of the console) were so poor.

My body is ready.
 
Yep. They've also likely been working on this since the last major update for Splatoon was back in like January?

Precisely! Their updates also weren't so large that it would require the full development team's focus. I'd suspect this next installment has been in development much earlier than even January.

They also wouldn't need to do as much work as they did with Splatoon, since they already have a solid base they can reuse and build upon (Think DKC2 coming from DKC1)
 
If these are ports, even enhanced ports, then it's over for Nintendo. They are just so out of touch with the market.

I mean, in Smash 4's case, you don't think it's a good idea to keep people interested with new characters and content and keep the hype train going, rather than making us wait like five whole years for an all new Smash game from the ground up? I'm gonna be nearing my 30s by that point lol
 
Nothing massive leap-like going on in most of those ports.

Going from 720p, sometimes less, to 1080p and sometimes 60fps from sub 30fps is a pretty big leap, let's not kid ourselves. Having said that, I don't know why we can't expect the same here. If I can play Mario Kart 8 in 1080p then that's great, because the resolution in that game ruins what is otherwise an extremely graphically impressive kart racer.
 
err...why? you mean the PS4 market that eats up PS3 ports (TLOU, GTAV)? or the current N market that eats up Zelda HD versions? this post makes zero sense

Err? You sound like a robot from the movies!

I mean that, historically, one of the biggest knocks,if not THE biggest knock, against nintendo consoles has been a lack of games. If all they have to show is ports of old games, and plan to launch a new system with that, why on earth would people choose to get behind this new system? It's business as usual for Nintendo if this is the case. I hope I'm wrong.

You probably don't want to bring up PS4 or the current market that "eats up" zelda HD. PS4 has about a billion original titles in addition to ports.
 
Emily Rogers is wrong. These are not ports. They're new games. I asked Reggie directly and he told me that "It's not the same game. It's not the same content."
 
Nintendo is going to throw Wii U games at it as U gamers will buy then for porrability and most of the market never owned a Wii U anyway
 
*For Nintendo.

No, everyone. A small number of exclusives day one has been the rule for most consoles. We get a bit of a warped sense of console "launches" in the U.S. due to Sony, Sega, and Nintendo all releasing in Japan first rather than world wide day one.
 
People's expectations regarding this console are outrageous.

There was no way the NX/Switch was going to be out this year, yet everyone seemed to think it had to be.

There's no way the little portable tablet of a console is going to be capable of outputting performance and visuals superior to the Wii U and still have any kind of battery life worth mentioning.

What indication do people get that Nintendo is capable of the turnaround necessary to pump out full sequels to these games at launch? Of course there will be ports, and Nintendo graciously likes to add bells and whistles to their console ports, which was marvelously showcased in Bayonetta.
 
Wii U port machine is a really bad look and definitely tilts my impression and opinion of Switch negatively. I have less than zero interest replaying the same games with the same graphics that I finished 2 - 4 years ago. Expecting me to rebuy them for $40-60 is just smearing shit in my face.
 
Actualy, understanding that the wiiu had awesome games that nobody played for reasons of BEING ON ONE OF THE BIGGEST FAILURES IN RECENT YEARS is being pretty on touch with the market =P

Besides the fact that the market dictates that "hd remaster everywhere" and Nintendo was the first company to ever do a remaster with Mario All Stars

Agreed on all points. The market has shown that they are willing to buy remasters. Nintendo is also in a unique position as the Wii U had a terrible install base so alot of consumers simply did not play the games in the past.

I think the Switch has an excellent opportunity to become everyone's second console if they can launch at an aggressive price point.
 
Emily Rogers is wrong. These are not ports. They're new games. I asked Reggie directly and he told me that "It's not the same game. It's not the same content."

If all they did was add new outfits and one new stage, then technically he'd be 100% accurate.

I also find it interesting that he would say "it's not the same game, not the same content" rather than outright saying "these are brand new games from the ground up".

I guess we'll see in a few months.
 
If all they did was add new outfits and one new stage, then technically he'd be 100% accurate.

I also find it interesting that he would say "it's not the same game, not the same content" rather than outright saying "these are brand new games from the ground up".

I guess we'll see in a few months.

I hope this isn't a serious reply lol.
 
If all they did was add new outfits and one new stage, then technically he'd be 100% accurate.

I also find it interesting that he would say "it's not the same game, not the same content" rather than outright saying "these are brand new games from the ground up".

I guess we'll see in a few months.
You do realize he was sarcastically quoting Reggie years ago when talking about the Batman port on the WiiU, right?
 
Nintendo has the most legit NDAs in the world. A few console exclusive games that are coming out in 5 months and nobody has heard a damn thing.
 
It all depends on how they execute it. If Mario Kart 8 had 2 more cups + the DLC cups, with even more characters and an actual battle mode, it's going to be very appealing for non-Wii U owners.

I also think it's likely that Nintendo would brand the enhanced port for Splatoon as a sequel.
 
In all seriousness though, I feel it's kinda weird that we talk about games like Splatoon, Smash, and Mario Kart like there is a fine line between sequel and an upgrade. I feel for these genres, there is an expectation of recycled content in every entry simply because more content is better for multiplayer games. If Smash is Super Street Fighter IV rather than Street Fighter V, that doesn't make it any less interesting to people who play Smash. For Splatoon I guess the question will be whether there is a new single player campaign. Because otherwise, I think new multiplayer maps are expected, and that alone would make it feel like a new product.
 
I mean, it's not like these are gonna be straight ports with absolutely no changes. We saw King Boo in MK8 and the new Splatoon cosmetics (and map?), that means there's bound to be new stuff to entice people to buy them. I'm sure Smash will follow.
 
I don't see the problem, considering the Wii U wasn't massively popular this allows Nintendo to bring out enhanced versions of their games for people to experience.

This also allows a good way of building up a quality library of games at launch for the Switch.
 
I mean, it's not like these are gonna be straight ports with absolutely no changes. We saw King Boo in MK8 and the new Splatoon cosmetics (and map?), that means there's bound to be new stuff to entice people to buy them. I'm sure Smash will follow.

WOW! Skins and items, holy fucking shit!! WOW!
 
Nothing wrong with this. Enhanced ports and remasters are abundant on competing systems. And besides, in this case the vast majority of the gaming population never got to play these gems because of the horrible sales of Wii U.
 
This is good. Wii U was ignored by the market and these games were the best sales efforts. Splatoon, Smash Wii U and Mario Kart should get a definitive/complete edition with improved graphics as launch titles.
 
Did some people actually think they were new games? port or remaster with new content is the first thing that came to my mind when I first saw them.
 
I am absolutely fine with this if there is some kind of discount for WiiU owners (of these games). Looking at the hardware speculation I don't think there'll be a huge upgrade regarding the graphics. So we might be looking at a few extra maps/courses/features. Would be a bit too much to charge 60 bucks for that again.
For a discounted price I'd probably double dip.

It'll be interesting to see how Splatoon.5 will control without the WiiU Gamepad.

Other than that I think it's a smart move - Mario Kart 8, Splatoon, Smash Bros. - those were the few WiiU Games that actually moved a bit of hardware and had non-WiiU owners briefly interested in the system.
 
This makes a lot of sense from a business standpoint. If they just repurpose and tweak all this pre-existing code, they can have their big franchises on the Swtich faster. ANYTHING that can prevent a drought like the Wii U's first year is a GOOD thing.

Save the sequels for later on when first party titles start to get thin. Also, bring on the Ice Climbers.
 
If these are ports, even enhanced ports, then it's over for Nintendo. They are just so out of touch with the market.

WHAT?

You expect new Mario Kart, Splatoon 2, New Zelda, New Mario and New Smash Bros plus new IPs in the first Year or Nintendo is out of touch LOL

Did the PS4 have UC4 new versions of Gran Turismo, New Ip's, The Last of Us, Kill Zone in the first year?

No they had Lat of Us remastered, Uncharted Collection, Journey Collectors Edition, God of War Remastered all mixed in over the first year and a half

At launch they had freaking Killzone: Shadow Fall and Knack

But some how Nintendo is out of touch if they dont have all their big games in the first year
 
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