Man... over 50% of what is spoken on here is assumptions. I can only go one what I know and what I know is that there haven't been any games announced that are exclusive to a system that comes out in 5 months.
Emily Rogers: Splatoon Switch is not a sequel, allegedly. Same for Mario Kart.
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Man... over 50% of what is spoken on here is assumptions. I can only go one what I know and what I know is that there haven't been any games announced that are exclusive to a system that comes out in 5 months.
That's already coming to Wii U. You know... the system it was actually built for. I'm not seeing how NX will add anything.
It's using similar assets, but that's not a map that currently exists.
I hope you like 2D Mario.
It's almost like one company can't support a platform by itself.
Astral Dog
Member
Nintendo wont talk Switch games or Specs anymore until January 2017.
They confirmed so all we can do is wait
I dunno, it just looked very similar. But after a thorough investigation, I must come to this conclusion too, it's probably a new map.
Sorry for the useless argument.
This^
Given the very low adoption rate of the Wii U, these games might find new life for people that never got around to playing them on the Wii U, so not really bad news.
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
That's the way I look at it.
There's a big delta to what Smash and MK sold on Wii U vs their POTENTIAL to sell, given the demand for the franchises. Stop-gap "enhanced versions" on a broader appealing console can reduce that delta, and provide Nintendo additional revenue and time for dedicated sequels.
MannyToons
Member
Just looks like another version of Urchin Underpass to me. New map, probably.
Astral Dog
Member
Look at the good side, Splatoon is the little gem that keeps on giving.
Pancake Mix
Copied someone else's pancake recipe
LOL, they wouldn't do that. More likely to go mobile-only than make expensive 3D games for their ex-competitors. That ship sailed with mobile.
outunderthestars
Banned
It was a teaser for the concept behind the hardware. They get the press bump for a few days from that. Later they show off more about the hardware, and show off a new game. They get another press bump for that. Come January they show games, announce the price, and open preorders. That gives them a this press bump.
This is how PR works.
Probably. That's how it usually goes.
DeuceGamer
Member
Exactly but why assume that all they have for launch is Wii U ports when Nintendo hasn't spoken about games at all yet?
The thing we know is that Nintendo will talk about games later. Until then, let's not get too upset over a couple Wii U ports.
So it should have crossplay between the systems then.
I didn't assume that, re-read my post. I know they have originals, I've been gaming a long time I know Nintendo ain't releasing a system with unique products at launch and in the pipeline. My issue is that this is how they chose to reveal the system. I'm worried it's revealing of the type of madrush they are to move on from Wii U, and the type of support the system is gonna get from third parties. I've seen past reveals from all companies, and most of them are not dominated by ports. Go back in time and look, compare and contrast.
If it's a video where they mixed concepts with real games, they should do a better job of clarifying.
Nintendo is in a precarious place in terms of their consoles and handhelds. They need to stick the landing here. The weirdness around this reveal, the games they chose to highlight, and the way third parties have responded is worrying me as someone who already has issues with feeling this concept is gonna get them out of the mire and move on from Wii U.
Well, that's something Emily Rogers mentionned months ago, when she first talked about the Splatoon and Mario Maker ports.
RomanceDawn
Member
I'm completely cool with these games getting rereleases as enhanced ports. If there is some program for the original owners to get a discount then I'm all the way in.
For Smash though there will always be no doubt. Seeing Ice Climbers and Wolf again would make me so happy! Add some brand new characters like Ridley, give DK some real gorilla fur and I'd be happy for another 5+ years.
For Smash though there will always be no doubt. Seeing Ice Climbers and Wolf again would make me so happy! Add some brand new characters like Ridley, give DK some real gorilla fur and I'd be happy for another 5+ years.
*For Nintendo.
Pizza con salsiccia
Banned
Smash port... will that fix the horrendous netcode?
VendettaRed07
Member
Even if they aren't "new" games, having Splatoon, Mario Kart, Smash and Zelda at launch or very close to it would be pretty killer for Switch
In comparison, With WiiU, we only got like, what.. New Super Mario U and Nintendoland for about, 9 months, until Pikmin 3 came out in August.
In comparison, With WiiU, we only got like, what.. New Super Mario U and Nintendoland for about, 9 months, until Pikmin 3 came out in August.
No one reasonably expected new entries at launch and now we're moaning because we're "only" getting ports?
Folk acting like brand new games in these series as launch titles was ever on the cards when there was a mainline Zelda and Mario rumoured...please. Put away the faux outrage.
Folk acting like brand new games in these series as launch titles was ever on the cards when there was a mainline Zelda and Mario rumoured...please. Put away the faux outrage.
Herb Alpert
Banned
I mean, PS4 used the same strategy and everyone was OK with that.
DeuceGamer
Member
Or, they simply didn't want to show new games because they didn't want to talk about new games until next year?
Edit: Seems to be the second bolded part may be clouding your judgment
With some changes and upgrades Smash, MK8 and Splatoon are eSports ready. Just add new DLC to them and make other games. Maybe offer Seasons in retail just to keep people up to date who don't like DLC or something.
I'd love to see some kind of competitive Mario Maker mode for Switch but even if it is just Mario Maker that's good enough for me. Just add more DLC to it please.
I'd love to see some kind of competitive Mario Maker mode for Switch but even if it is just Mario Maker that's good enough for me. Just add more DLC to it please.
Nothing massive leap-like going on in most of those ports.
They might not have wanted to. To me that's a problem, and that's the point of my comment. The system is already on shaky ground conceptually, I want them to be aggressive and show the world they are moving on from an era of never getting third party support and playing it safe with their own products.
You can't get mad when people judge your product based on how you choose to show it off. That interpretation may be wrong, but then nobody is at fault for that except Nintendo.
GiantBreadbug
Member
I think Smash is the important one to start with. At launch would be desirable, but they could reveal it before launch then release it maybe Holiday 2017. Or an alternative option is launch it with Switch with whatever new content you have ready, then support it with DLC for maybe just a bit.
The point is that most people who know anything about Smash development will tell you that if Sakurai were given an out on building a totally new smash game from the ground up with 60+ characters for Switch in 2019, he'd probably do it. I would love to see him wash his hands of it for long enough to rest and maybe make an original Switch game if he wants. I have no doubt the attractiveness of building content onto a well-received (mechanics-wise) Smash title was apparent to everyone involved.
I think I can safely say that Smash is Nintendo's single most important title because of its branding and marketing ability. Any time there's a smash game coming up, you're seeing Nintendo characters everywhere and people buzzing about the latest character reveal.
I imagine the ability to trot out a Smash game with new content at launch is a huge draw for Switch. It's a series with mainstream exposure and it leverages all of Nintendo's strongest IP assets in one game (and it can sell amiibo too).
outunderthestars
Banned
I'd take a port of Splatoon or Mario Kart over first party launch titles such as Knack and Zoo Tycoon.
Both platforms also had a large number of ps3/360 ports/upres games while not having a game anywhere near as important as a new Zelda.Jupiter_Shrooms
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I've been playing Splatoon daily since launch (600+ hours logged). That is a different map (people are likely confusing it with Urchin Underpass). No idea how it can be a port when they've shown different weapons, new hair styles, a different map, new gear class, and new gear. The only thing that could remain the same was if it had exactly the same single-player campaign.
Aside from Splatoon, I can't see Nintendo making sequels to Smash, Mario Kart or Mario Maker in short order if enhanced ports came to Switch.
I firmly believe they're avoiding a full court press till post Christmas because they don't want to get lost in the holiday purchase cycle. It makes more sense to release all the info in January. If they start dumping info now it's entirely possible people won't care.
My assumption, given its announcement, is that whatever information she had about the Mario Maker port was actually referring to the 3DS version.
pretty done
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Switch isn't going to have a ethernet port so, probably no. Enjoy your everyone on shit wifi lag matches!
Yep. They've also likely been working on this since the last major update for Splatoon was back in like January?
Idiot Stick
Neo Member
Yeah your right re the Devs. But I think a more powerful system that would enable Nintendo to play Triple AAA games would be a hit. The Nintendo audience will always buy legacy Nintendo games, I would just love to see them with a system that would steal users away from Sony/Microsoft.
Pancake Mix
Copied someone else's pancake recipe
No console in recent memory has had a press blowout only 2 months before launch. It's batshit crazy.
And Western consumers aren't thinking about spending money and pre-ordering in January, right after Christmas. This is a very Japan-centric decision.
Assuming the MK and Splatoon footage used in the trailer has any relevance to the games we're getting, then it was immediately clear they're not straight ports. There will be extra modes/stuff for those who've played before, and a dream line up for the Nintendo unfaithful around launch.
Whether Smash Switch, MK8 Switch & Splatoon Switch appeals a lot to me as a WiiU owner remains to be seen. I can already play these games, and without BC on Switch I'll be keeping at least one WiiU set-up for the forseeable future.
The bigger question is whether Zelda will be 'enhanced', or a straight port of the WiiU version.
Whether Smash Switch, MK8 Switch & Splatoon Switch appeals a lot to me as a WiiU owner remains to be seen. I can already play these games, and without BC on Switch I'll be keeping at least one WiiU set-up for the forseeable future.
The bigger question is whether Zelda will be 'enhanced', or a straight port of the WiiU version.
DeuceGamer
Member
I'm not mad...at all. I have simply said, let's wait before getting mad/upset, as it seems some are doing.
Nintendo has come out and stated they will talk about games at a later date. If they show the system, but clearly state they will talk games later, I'm not going to get upset about a few rumors of Wii U ports.
outunderthestars
Banned
Why is it crazy? It's 2016/2017. They just announced their new platform by posting an announcement of a video for the next day, then put up a youtube video. That video was seen almost 11,000,000 times in less than 24 hours.
Why would that company need to have a software blowout six months to a year from launch? What advantage does that give them that could not be achieved through a Nintendo Direct in January?
Trade shows like E3, and the traditional PR cycle are dying because they are relics of the past.
Going to need some evidence to back this up.
I was just being general, I don't mean you specifically were literally mad; I mean simply people rightly expressing doubt because of the way Nintendo chose to reveal the system are not at fault. That's on Nintendo. That the way they revealed Switch allows so much doubt is the problem.
openrob
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I would like to be able to get a discount on games if I have hem on my Wii U. Especially of digital as I can't trade them in.
To be fair, a bunch of fucking remasters was exactly what the Wii U could have needed. HD Wii games were the prime target lol
To be fair, a bunch of fucking remasters was exactly what the Wii U could have needed. HD Wii games were the prime target lol
Most people following the Splatoon news are crazy then lol.
Anyways like I said in the other thread, zero interest.
err...why? you mean the PS4 market that eats up PS3 ports (TLOU, GTAV)? or the current N market that eats up Zelda HD versions? this post makes zero sense
Baron Doggystyle von Woof
Member
Don you find the ps4/x1 remasters lame as well?
All the Wii U owners will be FURIOUS!