Dark Cloud
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This is breaking news...
Emily Rogers: Why you should be excited about NXs software output
- Thread starter Tom Nook Sawyer
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yeah but it feels like everyone wants attention to make themselves relevant. everyone is just speculating. making up shit.
did you see that video that DF made about ps4k? i thought they had some concrete but all video was" might... might ...."
lord have mercy. i can wait for this to end.
the difference is
about u was only jaffe
in my case is everyone... at same time. it was cool at the beginning, now its getting annoying.
So what did Emily said? Also what does indiegamerchick is saying ? cant see her twitter.
Bloody misleading title too. It should say "Nintendo's NX output". Then I could have avoided the thread because in the schema of things, Nintendo's output means not much more than shit to me. I want 3 of their franchises, without the bullshit shitty tech, childish branding backwards philosophy.
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There's a reason why Nintendo tries not to announce games too early ... and i'm sure they will learn to do that with future Zelda games, too!
Well, you're allowed to leave the thread without a useless crap-post, even after noticing that you misread the title, you know?
And i would be grateful if that tired old shit of "Nintendo 3rd party cause i want X on Y" could stay out of this thread.
Because right now, it's nice to have the thread not blow up by drive-by-shit-posts like so many did before.
DownGrader
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So this happened on 9gag...
http://9gag.com/gag/aeGqj9O?sc=geeky
People are really really interested in NX
The OP definitely overanalyzes stuff, but... I would honestly like to see something akin to Nvidia Shield as either a new portable or a gamepad for a new console. Traditional grip, moderately big screen, display and button protection - what else could one ask for?
Whilst I'm not debating your standpoint (it's fair) - why do you care what the branding looks like? If you already know you only want 3x franchises from them, why does it bother you if you get them amidst some childish branding?
Kissenkopf
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Why even posting here when it is just a useless shit post? When you hate childish things why do you post like a child?
Why bother with reading here when you know you wanna avoid this thread?
But back on topic: wonder if Indie Gamer Chick heared a rumor of an upcoming direct and if she did, if some other "insiders" like Rogers and Co heared the same.
Graphics Horse
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Yes I'm very interested in something like that, I don't see Nintendo going for active cooling though!
If it did look something like that cartoon I guess those odd handles would rotate to unlock and then fold over the front either side of the screen.
There is rightly a lot of skepticism in this thread but it's clear that in the 2 years before his death, Iwata tried harder than ever before to sort out their software pipeline. Before the horrendous launch periods of the 3DS and Wii U, Iwata only paid lip service to the idea of stopping the software droughts, but after those machines flopped there was an enormous restructuring effort within the company and a change in their vision regarding the way they design hardware.
The move to 3DS and Wii U put huge strains on their development teams after years of working with massively outdated hardware. They were forced to launch both machines with the hardware gimmicks as the selling point (3D + second screen), breaking the golden rule of the video game business (software sells hardware) and leading to panic within the company. They diverted all resources towards saving the 3DS but that meant the Wii U was left to rot, launching with a tech demo compilation and yet another NSMB game. All the more expansive launch window titles were delayed well into the next year. They managed to limit the damage to the 3DS but the Wii U never recovered from that anaemic first year, it took 2 years for genuinely killer apps to appear and by that time the console was dead.
In response, Nintendo unified their console and handheld R&D divisions, shifted most of their internal projects to NX, and focused on outsourced spinoffs to keep their 3DS and Wii U schedules filled. The hope is that they have built up enough titles for the launch period and that going forward, the shared architecture across their hardware platforms will make it possible to release many games on both platforms at once, rather than having to develop separate entries for every franchise. They know that people have always bought Nintendo hardware to play Nintendo software, that will never change, the hope is that NX can compensate for the inevitable absence of Western AAA games with more regular first party software.
The move to 3DS and Wii U put huge strains on their development teams after years of working with massively outdated hardware. They were forced to launch both machines with the hardware gimmicks as the selling point (3D + second screen), breaking the golden rule of the video game business (software sells hardware) and leading to panic within the company. They diverted all resources towards saving the 3DS but that meant the Wii U was left to rot, launching with a tech demo compilation and yet another NSMB game. All the more expansive launch window titles were delayed well into the next year. They managed to limit the damage to the 3DS but the Wii U never recovered from that anaemic first year, it took 2 years for genuinely killer apps to appear and by that time the console was dead.
In response, Nintendo unified their console and handheld R&D divisions, shifted most of their internal projects to NX, and focused on outsourced spinoffs to keep their 3DS and Wii U schedules filled. The hope is that they have built up enough titles for the launch period and that going forward, the shared architecture across their hardware platforms will make it possible to release many games on both platforms at once, rather than having to develop separate entries for every franchise. They know that people have always bought Nintendo hardware to play Nintendo software, that will never change, the hope is that NX can compensate for the inevitable absence of Western AAA games with more regular first party software.
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You know that's kinda one of the reasons about Nintendo's current position in the market, right? Not to disargee with you, i'd like to see Nintendo upping their ouput and more importantly the variety of genres they cover with their games, but without the 3rds, not much will change.
mocolostrocolos
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So this happened on 9gag...
http://9gag.com/gag/aeGqj9O?sc=geeky
People are really really interested in NX
Oh shit. I like t.
Oh, and what if the portable version of NX is a screen with processing graphics unit/CPU/RAM/etc. attached to the controller that can run games?
That would be mind fucking blowing.
A lot will change. It's the difference between the Wii U and the 3DS, plus more. It's the difference between 15 mill and 80 mill units.
I actually think it's important to "shit-post" simply because I tend to think that there are too many people blind to Nintendo's crap that it needs to be called out at every possibility. There are so many people still thinking Nintendo are the bees-knees and make the best of the best and can do no wrong. Really though, they need to see how Nintendo has operated over the last 10 (maybe 30) years and realise that Nintendo really don't care one iota about any of you. At all. They just do their own thing and no matter how many people say "WE REALLY WANT SOME DECENT ONLINE" or "WE REALLY DON'T WANT TO REBUY ALL OUR GAMES ON VC" Nintendo will continue to do whatever the fuck they want again and again and again.
Basically, I feel Nintendo need to change who they are in order to take a more customer focussed approach to their gaming. If they can just get out of their own arses, they could release their amazing games and at the same time offer people a great selection of third party titles as well, on a machine that wasn't gimped out the wazoo.
The major problem I had with this thread was all this implied talk of how amazing NX will be cause Nintendo will be making more games that you can shake a stick at. Unfortunately in the scheme of things, it won't matter if Nintendo makes a zillion games a month. No-one will buy their console if it does't look attractive as an overall package and by that I mean No-one will buy it if it doesn't look technically advanced compared to the competition.
I want a return to the glory days of the SNES .
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Since you're bringing the 3DS into this, many of it's sales still come from Japan, and ironically, Nintendo do have actual 3rd party support on 3DS. Monster Hunter, Yo-Kai Watch, Dragon Quest. ^^
Sure, the device could be successful with Pokemon and Animal Crossing alone, but not like it is with the 3rd party games.
Then you didn't only misread the title, but also failed to read at least some of the posts in the thread, which show valid criticism without shitposting. (Yeah, that's possible)
If your point of view is "Nintendo doesn't care, and won't ever change" then it's not even a valid base for a discussion. You're ignoring the company wide restructuring, the recent steps in trying to build a unified account and online system with Nintendo Account and the likes, and lastly the fact that even Nintendo noticed how bad they messed up with Wii U.
And while the way Nintendo went with the Wii for example, might not be what you want, it showed that Nintendo can change if they want and need to. Wii U's performance was a clear message from consumers and partners for them, so i expect them to change in return to this.
I bought (well my parents got it for me for Christmas) a SNES for Super Mario World and Zelda.
First system I bought for a third party title for the PS2.
You really don't and there really aren't. It happens in EVERY thread about Nintendo and it really doesn't need to unless it's specifically related to the topic of the thread. Which, this time, you kind of were...maybe. So kudos. But then you've un-qualified it with this rambling ommission of shit-posting....so I retract my kudos
Opinions are a tough concept, huh? It's possible to like Nintendo for what they are without thinking they can do no wrong and that they couldn't improve. The world is not as black and white as you seem to view it.
Agreed 100%. Neither do Sony, Microsoft or any other consumer electronics company. They are businesses and they don't "care" about any of us. They "care" about whether we buy their products and to that end they "care" about whether we think they care about us - because (as evidenced by you) that makes us want to support them. If you think they genuinely care about how we feel as consumers then you are far further in their pocket than any of the people you are generalizing about above.
The DS, arguably.
axisofweevils
Holy crap! Today's real megaton is that more than two people can have the same first name.
I like Nintendo because it is not like Sony and Microsoft.
Dark Cloud
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We might need to talk about this more because it's odd Nintendo would put something like this there.
It looks like it's a separate screen? Maybe a phone can be placed there?
I'm probably overthinking it though because Star Fox is futuristic and it could just be a "futuristic" controller for the short.
This would be one of the strangest, most awesome ways to reveal a controller.
TLZ
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So this happened on 9gag...
http://9gag.com/gag/aeGqj9O?sc=geeky
People are really really interested in NX
So we can stream NX games to our phones, also use it as a second sreen and attach NX controller to it, not needing a screen in the controller to keep the price down. Not bad.
Speculating, but it's a nice idea
CentralScrutinizer
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I will be honest, I kind of want Nintendo to expand their own development arm and be the only company supporting their systems. I love owning Nintendo games on Nintendo hardware and I am okay if NX is just this.
DaSorcerer7
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Check the previous page.
OrbitalBeard
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Hell hath no fury like a Nintendo fan scorned.
Skittzo0413
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I really don't understand when people make this argument-
Just because right now we are in a thread about NX having increased software output over Wii U in no way means that Nintendo aren't actively trying to create good and attractive hardware and aren't trying to court third parties.
I see these argument so often-
"Increased first party output alone won't save Nintendo!"
"Power alone won't save Nintendo!"
"A decent gimmick alone won't save Nintendo!"
"Funding some third party exclusives alone won't save Nintendo!"
But what you miss when you make that argument is that they are (potentially) doing all of these things all together rather than alone.
Also to your point about " implied talk of how amazing NX will be cause Nintendo will be making more games that you can shake a stick at" I really don't think we're reading the same thread. Sure, some people are excited to be playing a lot more Nintendo titles, but I don't really see anyone automatically saying more first party games means the NX will be super successful.
You changed your avatar. :'(
Thanks for the info. That is quite strange. I saw the anime and I saw people discussing this...I wonder if it really could be it. That would be too funny.
Or even the handheld
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1210146
McGruber21
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All Nintendo needs to do to get me to buy an NX is to make the controller comfortable and semi-normal. I would like to play 3rd party games as well, but this is not my first rodeo...
Jerm411
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I'm hoping Undertale will be...
You mean futuristic like a console coming out in the future?
Its fun to think about. Has Nintendo ever hidden future hardware in plain site before? I seem to remember they hid the Wii in investor meeting slides.
Maybe this really is it? Doesn't sound completely outside the realm of possibility lol.
Skittzo0413
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I personally found the Wii U gamepad to be one of the best controllers I've ever used, if not the best. Super light, very comfortable to use, and instant off-TV play is all so nice. I guess not everyone agrees, but if you haven't given it a try you might like it.
cartographer
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That was something else.
It's not that you are reading a different thread; it's that you are actually reading the thread at all
Most of the drive-by shit posts are by folk who see a thread title, rush in and dump their standard whitewash response to the topic (in this case Nintendo/NX), and never stop to actually read through other people's posts on the way out.
OT: More first party titles is only a good thing for NX. But of course, as most people have been saying, it will have to come alongside a plethora of other features and content which Nintendo will need to nail down before NX can be a success.
Skiesofwonder
Walruses, camels, bears, rabbits, tigers and badgers.
This was the first thing that crossed my mind when it showed Falco playing the original Star Fox. Why was he holding a controller that featured a clamshell/dual-screen design, and why did they place emphasis on Falco using gaze-tracking technology to lock-on to enemies?
The latter really piqued my interest, so maybe we should revisit this patent by Nintendo (filed in early 2014):
http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=848738
Edit: my apologizes, I corrected false information provided from the previous link and replaced said link with the neogaf thread created by our very own, Rosti.
And I'm sure most of you have seen this video by Johnny Lee on the subject (using a Wiimote and IR sensor for head tracking):
http://youtu.be/Jd3-eiid-Uw
Could this be Nintendo's solution to VR, and could this be the gimmick of the NX?
It's not that you are reading a different thread; it's that you are actually reading the thread at all
Most of the drive-by shit posts are by folk who see a thread title, rush in and dump their standard whitewash response to the topic (in this case Nintendo/NX), and never stop to actually read through other people's posts on the way out.
OT: More first party titles is only a good thing for NX. But of course, as most people have been saying, it will have to come alongside a plethora of other features and content which Nintendo will need to nail down before NX can be a success.
Yup, this. See this shit a lot on the internet though. Reddit is infamous for that. It's why you see misleading titles on it. But also, look at gaming media. Some do that to just for the dramatic effect. Polygon did it today with the Platinum Games thing...
Certainly that would be my preferred option. I'm pretty unwilling to buy a console just for 1st party titles. That just means I'd need multiple consoles. I'd much rather a situation where the NX was an equal platform in terms of third party console games. Then it would at least be a viable option.
Seeing Nintendo US and Europe with their own studios and a free-er hand would be great too.
Graphics Horse
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I think it would be safer to assume the Falco thing was just a take on the gamepad letting you look around and aim.
Skittzo0413
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It's not that you are reading a different thread; it's that you are actually reading the thread at all
Most of the drive-by shit posts are by folk who see a thread title, rush in and dump their standard whitewash response to the topic (in this case Nintendo/NX), and never stop to actually read through other people's posts on the way out.
OT: More first party titles is only a good thing for NX. But of course, as most people have been saying, it will have to come alongside a plethora of other features and content which Nintendo will need to nail down before NX can be a success.
AzaK usually seems to at least be reasonable in these threads, if not a bit pessimistic. I guess you can't expect everyone to read through 20+ pages before responding though.
On topic, yes I agree they need to present a whole package which is enticing, and I think they're up to the challenge. Also I have a very strong feeling that we'll be getting an official announcement of some sort before May, if only a reveal date/E3 date...
God the wait is unbearable
TLZ
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You're being selfish though? Games are made for everybody. Nintendo thrived on kids back in the day, these kids were me and you. It was ok back then, but now that we grew up they should change? C'mon. There are other generations after us too who they want to cater for. Besides, I still love their "childish" games. They're a breath of fresh air, and great solid games. I think you're just annoying yourself being in here. There are other consoles with the "grown up/mature" games you want.
You don't want Nintendo from the last 10 years then bro...
Honestly Nintendo become more irrelevant each generation. I reckon most of the people interested in the NX just want to see how badly Nintendo screw up so they can watch people on forums have a meltdown.
Kissenkopf
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What are you even talking?? Nintendo had sold the most consoles and handheld in their last generation, dude! Everyone had a DS or a Wii and Nintendo is known by every kid. Pokémon and Mario games still sell extremly well, even if the consoles don't. So just stop writing such nonsense please, gosh.
wonderful103
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What's that age bracket called when you want to pretend be cool amongst all your friends so you don't tell them that you're still watching cartoons and instead tell them about that movie you saw with blood and titties everywhere?
Because it seems that many are going through this. I have no issues watching cartoons and I'm in my mid 30s. I have no issues jumping from a match of battlefield to Mario 3D world. I thought twilight princess hd was great but wind walker hd was much more fun to me (despite its worse dungeons) because of its colorful whimsy. A good game is a good game regardless of its tonality.
Because it seems that many are going through this. I have no issues watching cartoons and I'm in my mid 30s. I have no issues jumping from a match of battlefield to Mario 3D world. I thought twilight princess hd was great but wind walker hd was much more fun to me (despite its worse dungeons) because of its colorful whimsy. A good game is a good game regardless of its tonality.
Skiesofwonder
Walruses, camels, bears, rabbits, tigers and badgers.
I brushed it off as that until I remembered he already had a controller with a screen in his hands.
"I am mad about video games!"
I mean, you're not wrong, but is yelling at people for liking Nintendo going to get you anywhere? Why not just offer up some ideas on what Nintendo should do to get third-parties back instead?
I also don't understand how you're making assumptions about anything other than Nintendo's first party plans based on this thread. How does this imply that Nintendo isn't going to try to fix their online or improve third-party support (unless your feeling is that Nintendo should risk going down with the ship by making themselves dependent on third-party support)?
13-18.