You can pick them at any time. If you don't want to subclass some of your characters nothing should keep you from doing so.
You can reset the subclass by resting (and thus losing 2 levels, a pittance). Feel free to experiment for the subclasses.
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Etrian Odyssey Community Thread: The Ongoing Adventures of Fight and Heal
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You can pick them at any time. If you don't want to subclass some of your characters nothing should keep you from doing so.
You can reset the subclass by resting (and thus losing 2 levels, a pittance). Feel free to experiment for the subclasses.
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
we will be getting Untold 2, the question is when.
SliceSabre
Banned
Nope. Second time playing it actually.
First time I got to the Abyssal Shrine when I first played it. However while there I was beaten into submission and couldn't finish. There were some damning flaws in my party set-up and skills that I wasn't completely sure how to overcome.
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
Did you have a Princess in your team? she makes the main game a joke with Protect Order + Attack Order + Monarch March.
You missed my favorite Stratum in the series, I love EO3's 5th Stratum so much.
Subclass can be changed upon Resting. It will cost you the customary 2 levels, but that penalty is negligible, especially compared to having a free 5 talent points immediately just for picking a subclass.
SliceSabre
Banned
Yes had a Princess but it was moreso the other party members were the problem.
Under-powered Yggdroid and a Buccaneer I was terrible with.
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
Well, I'm sure you're a better player now but you can always show your team and I'll give you some tips if you need any help.
I'm not a big Yggdroid fan so I can see how that didn't work out pretty well. For damage dealing I used an Arablist and she did wonders(I refused to use a Warrior Might party).
crabhammer
Member
Ok EOgaf I need assistance.
I'm aware the "fight and heal" joke comes from game informer, but I can't find the actual review of EO1 from GI anywhere on the Internet and I was curious what the actual context of the statement is. I assume the reviewer was being insulting?
I'm aware the "fight and heal" joke comes from game informer, but I can't find the actual review of EO1 from GI anywhere on the Internet and I was curious what the actual context of the statement is. I assume the reviewer was being insulting?
SliceSabre
Banned
If you will still have me senpai, I'll remember that offer!
I don't think the review in question ever wound up on the internet. But as I recall, I think it's less trying to be insulting and more just being really unimaginative. Like he just didn't know what to make of a game where you have to make your own party and aren't provided some amnesiac hero and his wacky friends to go on a generic RPG adventure story with. So he just named them according to their roles.
Europe: ¯\_(ツ_/¯
Nah, If it gets the usual treatment, it will be "only" a year from now on. At least that leaves me enough time to complete my backlog from the last few month...
With the low sales, there might be a chance that NISA won't pick it up this time.
I hope I'm proved wrong. Even getting it one year later is better than not getting it at all.
From what I remember, yes. Very insulting.
Oh, wow. Really good answer! But the review, from what I remember, was pretty much scornful from start to end.
The most I could find about it is in this (amusingly enough, NeoGAF) post, and yes, it's a pretty laughable review.
That's the one! It was basically a reviewer so used to RPGs always being a certain way that he had no idea what to do when something different came along, which we've turned into a running joke.
I think I subclassed 1 or 2 at the time, and a further 1 later on. I still have 2 not subclassed and I've done everything apart from the very two final bosses (optional boss and final, final boss).
You can always reset skill points and choose a new subclass later anyway.
Heh, thanks for digging that up. I had done a brief search for info about that reivew while making the CT but didn't find that. I will add it to the FAQ in OP.
Alright, the Wayback Machine gives the full review, which is as ridiculous as it is short. Clearly they didn't put a lot of effort into it.
Full Review.
Transcript:
Full Review.
Transcript:
It should probably be said that both of them are Game Informer editors.
I have 5 games to buy in Q1 so... time issue. Big, big, big time issues. And 4/5 are long...
E_Darkness
Member
Now I understand the title and it is hilarious.
I wonder what Fight and Heal are up to nowadays?
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
which ones aside of Atelier(fuck it, I'm waiting for the Plus version) and MH4(Day 1)?
I'm excluding MH4 out of the five games since that doesn't have a month
these five I know to have confirmed month dates.
Jan - Atelier Ayesha Plus
Feb - Story of Seasons, Kirby and the Rainbow Curse, Witcher 3
Mar - Atelier Shallie
so it's even worse when I add in Q1 games.
Q2 is good since there's only Arkham Knight on June.
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
Kirby and the Rainbow Curse is Q1? Fuck yes.
I still wish Untold 2 was Q1.. I hope it's not a holiday 2015 game.
I still wish Untold 2 was Q1.. I hope it's not a holiday 2015 game.
Beat Great Dragon twice and Blizzard King once so far. Beat the great one again to use a formaldehyde (anywhere I can get these?).
The other one may be a while, as a lot of my damage comes from land > vanguard, improved link, electric link. But that probably won't work so hot on an electric foe.
The other one may be a while, as a lot of my damage comes from land > vanguard, improved link, electric link. But that probably won't work so hot on an electric foe.
The auras are somewhat misleading. A rule of thumb I use is to take on FOEs in a particular dungeon/stratum only if I've cleared said place (and in the case of EO4, reached the next one).
You can craft Formaldehyde from the Sheep FOEs' drops in the 6th dungeon.
You haven't leveled up other links? Either way, since you've beaten two dragons already, you should be able to level up to 90, so feel free to strengthen your party before taking on the last one.
I really wish there was an in-game impetus for doing New Game + in EO4.
Actually, I wish there were reworked dungeons, like in the original Legend of Zelda.
THAT, would be dope.
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
a Hard mode would be nice, I wanted to keep playing and making my team stronger but I could already destroy everything so I didn't bother.
Question on forging. Is it better if I forge multip atk's on a character that's making use of the links?
Also, does multiple fire on a weapon do more damage, or is 1 fire enough to make that weapon fire elemental, then add +elm on top of that?
Edit: Also, is it better for my arcanist to have a weapon with +tec or +luc if I'm trying to bind? Also, is there a quicker way to level than these golden dream eaters? 50k is low for what I need now
Also, does multiple fire on a weapon do more damage, or is 1 fire enough to make that weapon fire elemental, then add +elm on top of that?
Edit: Also, is it better for my arcanist to have a weapon with +tec or +luc if I'm trying to bind? Also, is there a quicker way to level than these golden dream eaters? 50k is low for what I need now
The best reason for New Game+ is to get multiples of certain items that only turn up once per playthrough, like Tharsis Wings and Power Gloves. But some sort of branching story path, harder difficulty or different mazes would've made it a lot more compelling.
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
it made sense in EO3 because you pretty much had to do every route to be ready for the post game stuff level wise.
Exactly.
In EO4, I beat all of the Post-Game, in playthrough #1.
I imagine most people did.
New Game+ seems like it was just "there".
Question on forging. Is it better if I forge multip atk's on a character that's making use of the links?
Also, does multiple fire on a weapon do more damage, or is 1 fire enough to make that weapon fire elemental, then add +elm on top of that?
Edit: Also, is it better for my arcanist to have a weapon with +tec or +luc if I'm trying to bind? Also, is there a quicker way to level than these golden dream eaters? 50k is low for what I need now
Fire/Ice/Volt forges don't affect skills (and ELM don't affect Links), so if you're forging for your Landsknecht, better put ATK. ELM is more useful for a Runemaster or an Imperial.
LUC increases Bind chances twice as much as TEC if I recall correctly, so a weapon with higher LUC should be better for your arcanist.
At your level you should be able to take on shiny Tusked Crushers (the crocodile FOEs in the 3rd land). Golden Goose makes them shiny I think. Just bind their head and things should go pretty smoothly.
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
Question on forging. Is it better if I forge multip atk's on a character that's making use of the links?
Also, does multiple fire on a weapon do more damage, or is 1 fire enough to make that weapon fire elemental, then add +elm on top of that?
Edit: Also, is it better for my arcanist to have a weapon with +tec or +luc if I'm trying to bind? Also, is there a quicker way to level than these golden dream eaters? 50k is low for what I need now
Get your Arcanist weapons with Luck, ignore whatever attack they give you since that's useless.
And yes, always forge Attack with your linker.
If you're referring to Swift Edge, better put ATK forge for your Nightseeker's weapon as well.
crabhammer
Member
Awesome, I didn't even think to use wayback machine.
What a ridiculous review though, really. The second opinion is even worse in my opinion.
Second Opinion gave the game an even lower score (5.75) than the first (6) as well.
What a joke.
Brawly Likes to Brawl
Member
So that Vore guy appreciates First Person RPGs, but he was put off by the combat being in first person?
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
It's Archaic!
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
Aren't you new to EO? you could play the rest of the series(play EO3).
I'm new, but I'm also OCD with owning every single EO game ever.
If you live in the US, nothing but time will prevent you from achieving that goal.