Yeah but after EO5 ( ・ω ・ )
And before EO6. And after Untold 3.
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Etrian Odyssey Community Thread: The Ongoing Adventures of Fight and Heal
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Yeah but after EO5 ( ・ω ・ )
And before EO6. And after Untold 3.
Mauricio_Magus
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I'm not ready for Untold 3, god I want that so much.
With Dancer being the class that comes from the next game, please.
With Dancer being the class that comes from the next game, please.
SliceSabre
Banned
I just want Gunner in every game forever and until the end of time. But I shall never have that.
SliceSabre
Banned
How awful. Don't even joke like that.
Princess and Dancer are too similar for that to make sense, even though it would be neat. If they brought a class over from EOIV I'd expect something more like arcanist or bushi.
Probably would just end up being highlander. As DLC.
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
The deal is, in story mode the Princess was already used in 2, so maybe we could get a Dancer in the team of 3.
I'd be so happy.
Now that I think about it an Arcanist would be amazing.
I'd be okay with this.
What if it's
But what classes could you see in 3 Untold? Part of the problem with crossing classes from 3 and 4 is that so many of them fill the same archetypes, so there's a ton of overlap between their functions, even if they do things differently. There's also the possibility that they'll essentially remake the class like that did with the war magus in 2 Untold.
I think a buccaneer's basically mandatory given the sea theme, but a deep one arcanist could be cool. At the very least, I'm hoping for a class that can use the unused sixth slot like the ninja and wildling can preferably the vampire puppet class that didn't make it into the original version.
a class from EO5, because they decided to publish 3 Untold first?
But what classes could you see in 3 Untold? Part of the problem with crossing classes from 3 and 4 is that so many of them fill the same archetypes, so there's a ton of overlap between their functions, even if they do things differently. There's also the possibility that they'll essentially remake the class like that did with the war magus in 2 Untold.
I think a buccaneer's basically mandatory given the sea theme, but a deep one arcanist could be cool. At the very least, I'm hoping for a class that can use the unused sixth slot like the ninja and wildling can preferably the vampire puppet class that didn't make it into the original version.
cooljeanius
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Good to hear that EOU2 is coming to America; my main dilemma now will be whether to get it digitally or physically... My copies of EO4 and EOU1 are digital (I got them on sale), but I feel like it'd be nice to actually have a physical copy EOU2 though...
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
new screens of Untold 2 in English:
SliceSabre
Banned
Too bad I'll never see Arianna's dumb face because I won't touch story!
new screens of Untold 2 in English:
Perfect.
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
So the Prince/Princess class has been renamed "Sovereign" in the English version on Mystery Dungeon.
I'm going to ahead and guess it's because of the Protector taking the "P". I wonder if they are keeping the change in Untold 2.
I'm going to ahead and guess it's because of the Protector taking the "P". I wonder if they are keeping the change in Untold 2.
They really have.
Hahahaha. Indeed.
I like Sovereign better myself, as it's gender neutral, unlike Prince/Princess.
Not just the "P," the "Pr." And yeah, it'll be Sovereign in 2 Untold.
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
Thanks for the info.
I'm personally fine with the change(it doesn't really change anything haha), even if I'm very fond with the old name of the class.
I liked that the name of the class changed depending of the sex you went with actually.
Makes sense. At least with Highlander in the first Untold you could distinguish it with the second letter.
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
I dislike literally ALL of the localized names. I repeat ALL.
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
I don't get why Protectors aren't just called Paladins like they are in Japan, same with other classes, it just seems like random changes.
Maybe Paladins often have healing and holy stuff while Protectors are just armor wearing knights? Then again, why not just name then Knights.
Landsknecht is way better than Swordsman.
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
Hardly considering the average person has no idea what one is without referring to wikipedia lol.
Swordsman just sounds so generic and male-centric. Landsknecht just sounds badass, and checking out their history makes them even better.
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
Other problem with it is the fact that the definition pretty much starts off like this
Then this
Which further lends the problem with the use of the name for localization.
On the flip side supported by this
It adds to the image that they were not mainly polearm users. BUT still the initial first thing that comes out of the article itself is "pikemen". With sword use taking a second fiddle to that.
The name would have far better fit the Phalanx rather than Hoplite which totally clashes with the appearance of the class to begin with considering for both names outside of the fact that its using a polearm and shield. Still Phalanx was a superior name as it can also refer to a defensive tactic where as hoplite literally refers to one of the fighting force members that forms a phalanx. Looking at the wikipedia article apparently the word was also used
but thats beside the point as the original usage was most likely chosen due to the localization team thinking it was a better choice than Phalanx. Seriously hoplite just does not bring any sort of imagery to mind. Where as even while not familiar to the word itself folks have heard the word Phalanx before and those a bit more familiar with things can associate it with the massive shield.
Its why Im glad I can play the JP version as would get pissed off to no end with the localized one. Its the same thing for Monster Hunter with some of the atrocious names they "rebranded" some of the monsters with for no apparent reason. Since the names were not even real words, so its not like it had to be localized for people to understand what they are supposed to mean. On top of some of the names were changed to sound like dinosaurs which made it even worse...
In regards to swordsman.
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
Not surprising as most people would be. Esp since most folks do not even know what the original names were to begin with.
As you said they were more famous because of the sword they carried, and came to overshadow the fact that they were mainly polearm users. I admit it's probably not the best term they could have chosen, but I just prefer it to Swordsman. Same thing for Hexer over Curse Maker or War Magus over Doctor Magus.
Paladin and Phalanx sounds better than Protector and Hoplite though.
Maybe it's because I play too much Civ but I think Hoplite is an ok name. It's more apt than Phalanx, which refers to the formation, so a person cannot be a Phalanx by himself.
And Landsknecht, while referring to the specific German mercenary troops, has also become a more generic term for mercenaries, especially in the Early Modern era. Mercencary might fit more, but it has a negative connotation and M is already used by Medic.
And Landsknecht, while referring to the specific German mercenary troops, has also become a more generic term for mercenaries, especially in the Early Modern era. Mercencary might fit more, but it has a negative connotation and M is already used by Medic.
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
I agree with was it your? previous statement, sorry on mobile cant scroll back up fast while typing but it is odd that they called the paladin a paladin when it does not exactly have a lot of skills which would make them seem like one, outside of the refresh skill (status ailment curing thing) though this is going off of the mysterious dungeon stats since forgot what the original one was lol.
Agreed about Hexer and War Magus. Esp the hell is War Magus when you look at all of the skills by far you can tell its more for support where War Magus makes it sound like it was a class made for combat over support. The fact that mages are generally thought of as back row nukers too does not help that imagery with War in front of it lol. Was totally confused as to what the hell the war magus was so had to look it up before when was here a long while back and people were talking about it
Im guessing text limitations is what got them to change it?
The weird name changing game reminds me of FF14 with all of the classes that we know what they "should" be yet have "new" names lol.
While that may be the case, about Phalanx it is by far a more recognized word than Hoplite, which those who are not familiar with the term will go "wut" at just since it looks odd with "Hop" being the first word their mind will associate with.
Where as Phalanx while once again you are correct about that its not used to really describe a person, it is a term that is still used to describe defense / objects / etc. Such as the Phalanx Close-In Weapons System (CIWS).
*for those not familiar with it.
Basically it literally puts out a wall of lead towards incoming targets in an attempt to defend its position. But back to the main topic at hand.
In fictional media we have things like from Macross the SDR-04-Mk XII Phalanx.
http://www.macross2.net/m3/sdfmacross/destroid-phalanx.htm
Anyways those are 2 example 1 real world and 1 fictional of how the word Phalanx has made it past just being referred to as a formation alone. Its become its own word now that is associated with defense. Where as Hoplite not as much. Though there is a helicopter that has the codename Hoplite which Id imagine is from the same term? Though a bit odd to name a helicopter after a ground unit lol
SatelliteOfLove
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Where they get larned up but good.
I like Landsniktbubs; there's no ranged/pike/cavalry RPS, there's no snazzy rainbow get-up, but it's distinctive, with maybe Warrior as #2.
Parakeetman
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While its still questioned if they really existed in history Ive always wanted a female only class based off of what people called Shield Maidens. Just because always thought the idea was badass.
Kinda hope the Highlander makes it into another game as that was an interesting class.
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
You guys talking about Landsharks?
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
Why yes, yes we are.
I'd be okay with a female-only class, like Princesses in 7th Dragon.
Shield Maiden sounds like a great class for a female MC. Untold 3's MC should totally be a woman.
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
That would be amazing.
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
With how the story has Yggdrasil in it am surprised we have not had a valkyrie class yet.
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