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Eureka Seven Astral Ocean |OT| "Don't fight it, feel it"
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Ep3 was weird... all the pied piper scenes felt off and somewhat to anime slapstick at times, I hope Omigawa doesn't kill the show, because her character seems pretty bad.
and this one scene with her was what? aside from that and some cheesy dialogue here and there, there were some damn good scenes in the episode so it wasn't all bad, pretty much loved everything involving AO, and the two
were excellent.
Next week looks like it's going be awesome too! can't wait.
and this one scene with her was what? aside from that and some cheesy dialogue here and there, there were some damn good scenes in the episode so it wasn't all bad, pretty much loved everything involving AO, and the two
flashbacks of eureka
Next week looks like it's going be awesome too! can't wait.
Ive never felt that a supporting cast has been superior to the leads in any BONES show except for DTB season 1.
If I dont like the leads, then I wont watch the show. Im not sure how anyone can rationalize watching something just for the supporting cast.
I'm not saying the leads in any of the BONES show are bad at all. But I usually find the supporting cast to be far more interesting - rahxephon, eureka seven and FMA are good examples off the top of my head.
Ayato was a much weaker character than... pretty much everyone else in Rahxephon.
FMA was more of an ensemble cast anyway but Ed was certainly a great character. The only one comparable to him is Mustang but they're fundamentally different types of characters.
Anyway bunch of stuff got clarified in this episode.
This Nirvash isn't the OG Nirvash. IFOs can only be piloted by kids and looks like all of the pilots it seems are probably famous to a certain extent. Also I guess AO is 13? Seems kinda young, Renton was atleast 14. Duckroll was right in that Secrets=G-Monsters. The whole bit about only IFOs working against Secrets seems like Gundam logic.
The Return of
Banned
Welp. Let's wrap it up. First that duckroll dude, then Dead, and then that Lafiel fellow, and now this 7th guy. All this positive hype is going to kill the show and we'll be hating it by ep4.
Was duckroll right? Lol
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I think I'd be way more into the speculation as to what's going on in Astral Ocean if I had ever really been able to make sense of what happened in the last 15 episodes of Eureka Seven.
Probably the worst scene in the entire episode! it literally made no sense.
It was a stupid ass scene but I guess it establishes Elena as into vocaloid shit and music.
We already know Elena is dumb. BUT WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER GUY?! >_<
She's charming and can seduce men into doing what she wants?
Honestly the whole power play between all four parties doesn't make sense. They already established Okinawa already has their independence so why the fuck do they need Ao other than to protect the island? Generation Cheese seems to be established as a world player so why did Japan need to take one of their pilots hostage? Why does Japan have a base on the island itself? Is Okinawa letting Japan just conduct military operations there but still maintaining their independence?
Episode 3
Gazelle is shaping up to be rather nice as a character, basically the opposite of what Holland was.
Ao to me is on par with Renton, getting a slight edge because he's a bit more grown up in his thinking thanks to the different difficulties growing up, whereas both grew up without parents, but Renton was the son of a hero, Ao the son of a a girl hated by the whole island.
Those adults don't deserve to be saved, but I guess Ao is too good of a person.
Omigawa keeps having few lines and I keep thanking the gods for this, though I don't mind her silly character.
Talking about silly/funny stuff, I laughed at this bit:
Gazelle is shaping up to be rather nice as a character, basically the opposite of what Holland was.
Ao to me is on par with Renton, getting a slight edge because he's a bit more grown up in his thinking thanks to the different difficulties growing up, whereas both grew up without parents, but Renton was the son of a hero, Ao the son of a a girl hated by the whole island.
Those adults don't deserve to be saved, but I guess Ao is too good of a person.
Omigawa keeps having few lines and I keep thanking the gods for this, though I don't mind her silly character.
Talking about silly/funny stuff, I laughed at this bit:
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Episode 3
Pretty solid episode, i'm enjoying the character development of Ao.
The flashback scenes with Eureka were great.
I still don't understand all the specifics of the Scub Corals/G-Monsters as it can be confusing sometimes.
Pretty solid episode, i'm enjoying the character development of Ao.
The flashback scenes with Eureka were great.
I still don't understand all the specifics of the Scub Corals/G-Monsters as it can be confusing sometimes.
So.... Secret is not so secret... right?
Good find. So I guess we can conclude that E7: AO is basically Acperience 5.
Dedication Through Light
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Episode 3 was pretty good on explaining things and making AO become really likeable and compelling. I cant help but cheer him on now as he tries to still protect the island even though the people (adults) treated him and I guess his mother so unfairly. Really emotional in that respect.
The OP is fun and catchy, and the battle animations stunning. Cant wait to see how it will get when we get deep into whatever the main plot will be.
The OP is fun and catchy, and the battle animations stunning. Cant wait to see how it will get when we get deep into whatever the main plot will be.
Another good episode, not as good as the first two, but still good.
Elena Peoples antics being way overblown by a few people lol. I could have done without the few seconds of retard anime reference comedy (huhu miku derp), but oh well.
Ao and Gazelle's character are really coming together nicely. Love Ao's determination and I loved the scene where Gazelle went off on his father. In a way, both characters really feel to me like progressions of where Renton and Holland ended up at the end of the first series.
Also,
dat photo ;_;
next week should be epic.
Elena Peoples antics being way overblown by a few people lol. I could have done without the few seconds of retard anime reference comedy (huhu miku derp), but oh well.
Ao and Gazelle's character are really coming together nicely. Love Ao's determination and I loved the scene where Gazelle went off on his father. In a way, both characters really feel to me like progressions of where Renton and Holland ended up at the end of the first series.
Also,
dat photo ;_;
next week should be epic.
^ Eureka grew up to be a fine woman. Lol.
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Finished episode two just now, it was great. Way better than I expected it to be. Catching up is going to be a pain, I hate waiting for stuff I actually like.
There's a lot of little details in the first two eps that I found quite endearing, like the magnification of Ao's view in the Newvash's cockpit, and how it tracks his eyes, or even the simple hooks that the hovercars rely on to land and/or to tether back to the ground. I like how there's still a good mix of old-fashioned vehicles intermingling with trapar technology.
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Finished episode two just now, it was great. Way better than I expected it to be. Catching up is going to be a pain, I hate waiting for stuff I actually like.
There's a lot of little details in the first two eps that I found quite endearing, like the magnification of Ao's view in the Newvash's cockpit, and how it tracks his eyes, or even the simple hooks that the hovercars rely on to land and/or to tether back to the ground. I like how there's still a good mix of old-fashioned vehicles intermingling with trapar technology.
Ultimadrago
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Eureka Seven AO 3
Well, less action, more and more talking.
I did not like it as much as the other episodes thus far. More just furthering the set-up for the "G-Busters" and Ao to deal with the pressures that lie with an island and its inhabitants in a dire situation. Found the islanders' collective
Stated as supposedly only a previous generation problem, however, they're all still there and salty as ever!
Too much screen time for such a weak plot point.
Needs less old man talky and more "Michael-Bay embarrassed" explosions.
Thankfully, it seems the next episode will deliver on that front.
Noah is an unapologetic pervert.
Well, less action, more and more talking.
I did not like it as much as the other episodes thus far. More just furthering the set-up for the "G-Busters" and Ao to deal with the pressures that lie with an island and its inhabitants in a dire situation. Found the islanders' collective
"foreigner!" attitude a tad on the primitive. I mean, really? I expect a response like, "What else should they blame?" I don't know or care, but the presentation of the reaction to this "hurdle" for the village didn't come off as believable.
Too much screen time for such a weak plot point.
Gazelle's little speech should have come sooner.
Needs less old man talky and more "Michael-Bay embarrassed" explosions.
Thankfully, it seems the next episode will deliver on that front.
Got around to watching episode 3, wasn't as bad as I feared. That said there was a bunch of just really dumb stuff throughout, particularly that completely out of place karaoke scene. Some of the plot points brought up and character motivations are very weak, and I'm also somewhat unhappy about the Eva ripoff bit. The two Generation Bleu mechas seem pretty unwieldy compared to Nirvash, although I suppose that is part of Nirvash's otherworldly nature. I don't really get why they are called Pied Piper and Generation Bleu, you'd think they could just stick to one name.
Rather interesting that the Secret looks very similar to Renton's board, I wonder what it means.
Rather interesting that the Secret looks very similar to Renton's board, I wonder what it means.
WrenchNinja
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YES.
Now I really hope some of the original cast show up again, just to see Sheh, Bosch, Freeman, etc return to the characters.
Now I really hope some of the original cast show up again, just to see Sheh, Bosch, Freeman, etc return to the characters.
real world pop culture references :|
great
I hate her stupid pink hair and stupid cat helmet
Flourescent hair used to mean something in eureka 7 damnit
WrenchNinja
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Well those kids would be adults and hopefully not as annoying.
Jex
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Episode 3
No, really, what was that about?
Anyway, I had a hard time enjoying this episode because of the script. There were a number of stupid moments, some of them involving a musical instrument, some of them involving people standing on cars. The show is really clumsy when it comes to getting across it's core messages and themes. Thankfully there hasn't been any other area in the production that's notably bad, the art, animation, cinematography etc are still good but I'll have a hard time taking this show seriously if it continues to be quite so silly. I assume that will change over the course of the series anyway.
At least I don't actively hate any of the characters yet, although all the 'islanders' seem incredibly stupid just so that BONES can tell us that racism is bad.
No, really, what was that about?
Anyway, I had a hard time enjoying this episode because of the script. There were a number of stupid moments, some of them involving a musical instrument, some of them involving people standing on cars. The show is really clumsy when it comes to getting across it's core messages and themes. Thankfully there hasn't been any other area in the production that's notably bad, the art, animation, cinematography etc are still good but I'll have a hard time taking this show seriously if it continues to be quite so silly. I assume that will change over the course of the series anyway.
At least I don't actively hate any of the characters yet, although all the 'islanders' seem incredibly stupid just so that BONES can tell us that racism is bad.
Sounded to me like their independence is a bit of a sham. One of the guys even mentions how their fishing rights were taken by China at one point. They lack power, which leads to--
--this. They're pretty much the bitch of the Northeast Asian region, an island with 6% of the landmass of say, Taiwan. Japan can maintain a base there (did they? I can't remember) with impunity because the Okinawans have no authority to actually evict them from the island. So Gazelle and Co. are hoping that Ao and his Nirvash can help upset that lopsided balance of power, but naturally, they didn't think it through and it's become more of a kick-foreigner-ass thing.
Not a fan of the Okinawan stuff (I was hoping that Ao would be somewhere else by now, preferably while sexing up Fleur), but I didn't think it was too unconvincing asides from the whole Okinawa-being-independent premise. Won't comment on the Generation Bleu thing. That was lame.
Well, my fears about episode 3 all came true, a very bad episode. There's hardly any likeable characters, random terms are introduced without any sort of explanation, and lots of random stupid stuff was shoved in for no reason. A banjo? Miku Hatsune? What was the point of those?
Good Job, Bones, you at least had 2 good/decent episodes this time.
Good Job, Bones, you at least had 2 good/decent episodes this time.
Good news there. I'm caught up so far, it's been interesting enough, but like Ultimadrago I thought episode 3 spent entirely too much time on such a weak and less-than-compelling plot point (bah! foreigner!). Motivation fit for a one-dimensional character. Aside from that, I'm interested enough to spend 24 minutes watching every week. I haven't watched an anime in quite some time, and aside from the new Shinichiro Watanabe joint Eureka Seven AO was the only thing piquing my interest.
For what it's worth, I probably only made it ten episodes into the original Eureka Seven. It's nice to see the new series isn't depending on knowledge of that one for the enjoyment of this one. Though I do imagine the good bit of linked personalities and characters make this a good sequel for the fans of the original series.
Miku was stupid, but it lasted like ten seconds and was never brought up again. And the
Really don't see how it's a 'very bad' episode, but that's just me. Flawed, but it's still enjoyable.
The banjo was great. I'm not sure why anyone would have a problem with that character or the scene. It was really well executed. I love the way BONES does adult characters in their mecha shows. They're always more interesting and have more background development than even the main characters. See: RahXephon, E7, Xam'd.
24 episodes in total.
The motivation of all the adult characters in episode 3 was either dumb or transparently aesopic. Hopefully the boring Okinawa subplot becomes less and less relevant as the show progresses.
I wish they would make this clear. Anyway it's a Japan base I guess because you see the Japanese guy talking to the GB woman and he later ends up on the Japanese battleship. Still don't know why they would detain them other than I guess the contract not being finalized and so therefore it's considered a breach of international law.
And 1 OVA I believe. I put emphasis on that OVA as they might pull some DtB S2 shit and put crucial info that you need on that OVA.
I fully expect it's going to be a driving reason for Ao to leave the island and that the series will then focus on GB.
The motivation was pretty lame, sure, but I mean the character himself and his banjo are nice touches to make the scene more interesting and to make the character feel more like an actual person with a personality and background. I think the entire racism thing is heavy handed and stupid, but that's different from the depiction of the actual character and how he presents himself.
I guess it does make sense for someone stupid enough to think all that racist shit to randomly play his Banjo, but that doesn't really help the show.
Episode 4
I think my expectations for the action scenes in this series are kinda overblown at this point. There wasn't anything particularly bad here, it was just not as interesting as I had hoped and there wasn't really that much "action" to begin with. What the episode did do was conclude the events of the last episode, and tie up certain character stuff to bring the "prologue" part of the storyline to a close. From ep5 onwards I guess we'll be seeing the series move into a more standardized format (if it indeed has one) with relation to character dynamics and narrative flow.
This episode also showcases some very specific differences between E7 and E7AO plot-wise. Some are good changes imo, while others seem a bit more questionable. What I like is how the mechs are handled here, including the new Nirvash. They are making it significantly different from how the mechs worked in the original show, without making it boring. The way weapons and mech parts and interface work are more "realistic" so to speak, but it also makes watching characters pilot them more interesting.
The changes that I don't like mostly have to do with the political nature of the story. It feels extremely artificial and heavy handed, and both the script and the direction of the scenes where these events happen just come off as corny and trying-too-hard honestly. At this point it wouldn't be particularly out of place for Wakamoto to voice the Japanese emperor at some point and demand that all who oppose the glory of NIPPON be destroyed, while a TV in the background shows a Bush lookalike rallying the American army to claim the Nirvash from the AXIS OF EVIL or whatever.
Another point I sorta dislike is how the otaku-self-referencing stuff is really eating its way into the script for the younger characters. Ep4 has several self-aware references to anime and manga, which might seem fitting in shows like Oreimo, but just come off as weird here.
Both elements show that BONES is trying really hard to make E7AO feel like a show that is really taking place in the near future of our current present day world, but I don't like that feeling one bit.
I think my expectations for the action scenes in this series are kinda overblown at this point. There wasn't anything particularly bad here, it was just not as interesting as I had hoped and there wasn't really that much "action" to begin with. What the episode did do was conclude the events of the last episode, and tie up certain character stuff to bring the "prologue" part of the storyline to a close. From ep5 onwards I guess we'll be seeing the series move into a more standardized format (if it indeed has one) with relation to character dynamics and narrative flow.
This episode also showcases some very specific differences between E7 and E7AO plot-wise. Some are good changes imo, while others seem a bit more questionable. What I like is how the mechs are handled here, including the new Nirvash. They are making it significantly different from how the mechs worked in the original show, without making it boring. The way weapons and mech parts and interface work are more "realistic" so to speak, but it also makes watching characters pilot them more interesting.
The changes that I don't like mostly have to do with the political nature of the story. It feels extremely artificial and heavy handed, and both the script and the direction of the scenes where these events happen just come off as corny and trying-too-hard honestly. At this point it wouldn't be particularly out of place for Wakamoto to voice the Japanese emperor at some point and demand that all who oppose the glory of NIPPON be destroyed, while a TV in the background shows a Bush lookalike rallying the American army to claim the Nirvash from the AXIS OF EVIL or whatever.
Another point I sorta dislike is how the otaku-self-referencing stuff is really eating its way into the script for the younger characters. Ep4 has several self-aware references to anime and manga, which might seem fitting in shows like Oreimo, but just come off as weird here.
Both elements show that BONES is trying really hard to make E7AO feel like a show that is really taking place in the near future of our current present day world, but I don't like that feeling one bit.
This is what I feared most of all :S
not really, but the fantasy element does seem weaker than the original
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