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Euro 2016 |OT| Take a bow sson
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Baleoce
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What I love is the fact that Bale is in exactly the same position as Ronaldo (a star player in amongst fairly average players) yet he can still get results. And arguably the Portuguese team is generally stronger, especially in terms of defence)
Because everyone is obligated to give the ball to Ronaldo.
We have a good midfield but when your idea of football it's just kick an air ball looking for Ronaldo in the middle of a well organised defence... you'll have trouble scoring that way.
And Fernando Santos was very poor in today's subs. Take Quaresma out when he was being one of the best elements in the front? Leave Nani on the field when he had a bad second half? Keep letting Eder in to the game with the hope that he will have a stroke of genius and resolve the game? Come on, either you put Eder from the beginning and put Ronaldo in the wing, where is place is, or just keep with the idea of having Ronaldo in the center of the attack and put fast midfielders in the wings.
John Dunbar
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i'm not sure what kind of results you're expecting. they crashed and burned in the last world cup, sure, but their results in the last 4 euros have been semi, final, quarter, semi, and they finished 4th in the world cup in 2006. they also lost to spain in all three of spain's recent championship runs.
basically, their results in the world cup could certainly have been better, but their results in euros are not at all surprising. if anything, i'd say they have overperformed when you consider they have been up against teams like spain, germany, france and italy.
John Dunbar
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Because they don't play as a team. It is individuals out for themselves.
Every single competition is like this for us, always needing to bring out the sheet and the calculator for the last moment to see if we can pass the group phase, it's honestly normal for us now, we're just a team that's destined to suffer until the very last moment, and that one can be good (we pass) or bad (like the last WC).
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John Dunbar
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except euro 2012 and 2008, and world cup 2010 and 2006.
seriously, with the exception of 2014, which was terrible for portugal, a draw in the final match has pretty much always been enough to ensure advancing to the next round in the recent past, and sometimes not even that was necessary.
don't really see where this narrative of portugal being underachievers is coming from. they constantly perform pretty much how you should reasonably expect them to. now that they played couple matches they were unlucky not to win people are getting all dramatic. and still a draw is most likely enough to go through.
Go back to 16 teams, please.
Not even close. Better than '12.
And people complaining about the number of teams, did you hate 82-94 WCs?
I understand the '82 had a round robin or whatever, but 86, 90, 94 were great.
travisbickle
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Ronaldo's a twat. That he's not a twat when he's off the pitch doesn't mean much. I expect him to try and get someone sent off in the next game.
Because for the last few years they are not a team that plays together, they are a team that plays for Ronaldo. One would think they would stop treating him like's Jesus fuckin Christ, but no.
Goals are in his DNA remember? He cannot not score!
Why would you say that?
Ennosuke
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You could definitely say this. They had such a great team and the unique chance to win a tournament in their own country. But then Rehakles and his Team destroyed everything.
Agent_Tiro
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Exactly this.
I heard stats last night that Ronaldo has missed 4 of his last 5 penalties, his freekick scoring %age is very low over recent matches. So why is he still first in line to do them.
But can you honestly see anyone in the Portuguese team turning around to Ronaldo and telling him he isn't taking freekicks and penalties. It would be a tantrum of epic proportions.
He has a hell of a talent, but he really needs to work as part of the team more and realise others may be in a better position at that time to do these things. He wants the glory to be all about him, There's a reason he is always the 5th penalty taker in a shoot-out.
Sgtpepper89
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The Messi-Ronaldo argument just got easier atleast..
Ugh...
Messi is the biggest talent, Ronaldo is the most complete athlete...there you have it, done!
At least Ronaldo participates in Euro. Messi cleary didnt have the guts to show up.
Outside of the Cameroon run, 90 WC was horrible
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Worst Euro Cup since the one where Greece won.
I feel like Portugal doesn't have players other than Ronaldo who are willing to step in when it matters. People say it's just about Ronaldo being Ronaldo but look at Real. When Ronaldo has a bad game there they can still win because they have other players who have the balls to fight the pressure and come forward. Portugal has only Ronaldo. They have some talented players but lack in mentality. Probably partly a manager issue as well.
Messi gets treated like Jesus fuckin Christ but he seems more interested in supporting his team mates. His assist yesterday was one for the ages.
Totally agree. That one was just god awful.
I support the notion of going back to 16 teams.
jimbobsmells
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Cops America has seen some great goals (and high scoring games - Chile 7 : 0 Mexico last night)
Dee Dah Dave
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Portugal are like the England of old. Two or three world class players and a generally solid team, but no results.
Charlie0108
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These have been great Euros. Just because teams are smashing one another doesn't make it a bad tournament. Watching teams such as Iceland, Hungary, Albania and Romania actually holding there own against some of the more decent teams has been really enjoyable. Tight games are so much better than one-sided ones.
Shambalakan
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I don't know if someone has posted this, but it's really funny! =))
LOL. More like England as always.
Agent_Tiro
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Some of the most enjoyable games I've watched have been where the likes of Iceland and Albania have put in hard working team performances and gotten a result or come close to one. Gutted for Iceland conceding so late on. Be good for them to progress onwards after Ronaldos comments
ReplacementPelican
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I agree with you, I mean, I loved NED/SPA 5-1 and BRA/GER 1-7 at the World Cup but most of these games have been so tense and to the wire that I've really enjoyed them. They don't need to be high scoring to be fun or interesting, that's how they trick people into thinking American football is a good sport.
Anyway, France and Switzerland play tonight and I'm really hyped for that.
Stereogatari
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Ok so a Romania-Albania draw today and then Italy and Belgium to win or draw their final games, would mean Turkey will go through with a victory on Tuesday.
There are other combinations from other groups which are more unlikely, so I'll simplify it and hope for these.
There are other combinations from other groups which are more unlikely, so I'll simplify it and hope for these.
Kiraly
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Bayern Munich 0 - 4 Real Madrid in the CL semi-finals comes to mind, what a game that was.
Total humiliation for the then title-holders.
Please. If you want to pretend that one of those games comes close, go with the 0-4 against Barcelona from 2009. It shook Bayern to its core. That game made Udo Lattek cry.
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