StreetsofBeige
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Is this video the thing they were talking about today with some fans trying to barge in?
Looks like the people fighting back werent even yellow jacket workers, but other fans already inside!?!
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Is this video the thing they were talking about today with some fans trying to barge in?
Looks like the people fighting back werent even yellow jacket workers, but other fans already inside!?!
Bullet Club
Banned
I think the Beckham-era was when soccer started to hit mainstream in the US/Canada, not sure why, probably because of his celebrity rather than his soccer abilities. There are have been many 'faces' through the years in the EPL, many of them not English or even European. Beckham, in contrast to many other British footballers hasn't even got a knighthood, just an inferior OBE /s
I don't know a great deal about Hockey (I also live in Canada - moved here 15 years ago, but know practically nothing about Hockey), but when we're talking about 50+ years of Stanley Cup, its 50+ tournaments between North American teams only. But in terms of international football/soccer tournaments, the games are every 4-years - or just 14 tournaments played since England's last world cup win in 1966. So if 'popularity vs. winning' is the measure, that's a pretty high standard to meet for the majority of national teams that compete in international tournaments. Most countries that compete in the European championship or World Cup, don't have multiple wins under their belt, and many have no wins; and the popularity of the England team (or any national team) is generally dictated by the population of that country. Team/Club games tend to have more of of a diaspora of fans.. and while I'll throw my weight behind other international teams depending on the tournament, wouldn't describe myself as a supporter of another international team.
Anyway, what I think I'm trying to say is I think success should be defined by the supporters, rather than the detractors. And this is why I can be quite happy with England's performance in this tournament. Sure it would have been fantastic to win the final against Italy, but getting to the final and holding a world-class team off until penalties is the next best thing.
Besides, what the fuck would we sing if England actually won a tournament? It's a song about frequent losing, but still believing.
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Nitty_Grimes
Made a crappy phPBB forum once ... once.
Oh well. 55 years and counting.
Lukaku's First Touch
Member
Did someone drop England's keeper on his head when he was young? This moron screaming at everyone all game every game. Even when he makes dumb mistakes he manages to scream and blame someone else. Had a good showing though today.
Dr.Morris79
Gold Member
FingerBang
Member
I'm sure he was under a lot of stress since for 70% of the time the game happened just in front of him. He played really well.
Nitty_Grimes
Made a crappy phPBB forum once ... once.
How’s the petitions coming along to make them all lords and saints and sirs?
Lukaku's First Touch
Member
It was a guy running around on the field dodging the sterwards:
Dr.Morris79
Gold Member
You know it's two separate groups of people.
The players were kneeling
A subsection of the fans were booing.
Trying to simplify it as 'England' is disingenuous at best and down right stupid as worst. Actually reverse that, misportraying the situation is worse.
Also not to mention those booing the anthems were probably the ones booing during the kneel.
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Dr.Morris79
Gold Member
Uh huh..
SoggyBiscuit
Banned
I don't understand all the people calling England fans arrogant.
How we can be arrogant when we never achieve anything is beyond me. Don't mistake hype, passionate support and enthusiasm for seeing our team do well as arrogance, it's such a weird take.
Do other nations get routinely mocked for being arrogant when showing any sign of support for their side? No? Well fuck off then.
How we can be arrogant when we never achieve anything is beyond me. Don't mistake hype, passionate support and enthusiasm for seeing our team do well as arrogance, it's such a weird take.
Do other nations get routinely mocked for being arrogant when showing any sign of support for their side? No? Well fuck off then.
Lukaku's First Touch
Member
No problem, just like and subscribe to my channel.Oh dear, what a nob.. cheers for posting though
Dr.Morris79
Gold Member
You wrote exactly what I was thinking!
I dont get it either, it just comes off as weird on their part.
DKehoe
Gold Member
Police in Germany had snipers aiming at the guy who parachuted in at a game there so I figure the U.K. police would too, especially since there were two people there who are in the direct line of succession to the throne.
Insane Metal
Member
Yes some idiots do. I already heard that.
Found it hard and then impossible to support the team, I was sadly instead supporting the players of my football club
Not aimed at all fans just the knuckle dragging idiots.
the England team did us proud. A subset of England fans did not.
Coolwhhip
Neophyte
Not aimed at all fans just the knuckle dragging idiots.
the England team did us proud. A subset of England fans did not.
So you're saying a very small group of an extremely large group are meanies? Damn.
jufonuk
not tag worthy
Dr.Morris79
Gold Member
Well shame on them then.
Banjo64
cumsessed
It’s funny isn’t it? Scottish fans are allowed to wear kilts in the ground en masse and love their country patriotically as are the Welsh and Irish. As soon as England do it though it’s a crime. And don’t talk about violence please, I live in Manchester which was absolutely raped by Rangers fans after the Europa League final.
More than arrogance, I'm really disappointed at the unfairness and non-sportsmanship of the english supporter, especially since they were my golden standard until this championship.
Booing the opponent's national anthem is one (also shitty) thing, but waiting for the supporters of the other team to gang-beat them? Really?
Regarding arrogance I leave this uncommented:
Banjo64
cumsessed
Gang-beat? Lol.More than arrogance, I'm really disappointed at the unfairness and non-sportsmanship of the english supporter, especially since they were my golden standard until this championship.
Booing the opponent's national anthem is one (also shitty) thing, but waiting for the supporters of the other team to gang-beat them? Really?
Regarding arrogance I leave this uncommented:
Rather get gang banged (or whatever is you are saying) than stabbed in the arse, which is what Napoli and Rome fans do regularly to opposition fans in the Champion’s League.
This overreaction online (mostly by yanks and what I’m assuming are bitter ‘liberal’ pro-EU loonies) is utterly ridiculous and manufactured.
I don't think we shouldn't mix the two issues.
I have no issue with being patriotic. I think the issue comes from the fact that English football fans have a larger percentage of dicks/scum/idiots (choose adjective) than other sporting fans (like rugby and cricket) then it impacts the perception of the wider fanbase. I also know that the ultra's and some of fans of the big 2 Scottish teams have the same issue but that's a problem for those teams and their respective fans.
Na but if you look at other countries and their fans there are mor worse England fans than any other countries. I tried to prove a point to a friend by finding a YouTube video of fight and litter from Italian fans in Rome. I couldn't find any decent footage it was mainly fans celebrating. Obviously if you look hard enough you will find footage like that. But soon I I look up England football fans a ton of litter and fights come up.
Dr.Morris79
Gold Member
Well that settles it then. All english are shit, you're right..More than arrogance, I'm really disappointed at the unfairness and non-sportsmanship of the english supporter, especially since they were my golden standard until this championship.
Booing the opponent's national anthem is one (also shitty) thing, but waiting for the supporters of the other team to gang-beat them? Really?
Regarding arrogance I leave this uncommented:
If we go by your logic, all Americans are fat, all Welsh shag sheep, All scots are ginger, French just eat frogs..
Yeah, the list goes on. Can you see yet that having such small minded logic doesnt work?
And never will.
I work with an italian, nice old boy, I was on the phone to him yesterday pissed off he had to work till eight, I went on Facebook and started a hashtag thing to free him an hour earlier and to poke a bit of fun at my old boss..
So, dont be daft. Most English fans are not like that and actually take offence people think that..
Azurro
Banned
Forza Azurri!! Congrats to all the Italians here in GAF. I'm really glad for Chiello, he is on the verge of retirement, one of the best centerbacks of all time and he never won anything with Italy until now. This resurgent Italy is so nice to see play, that midfield with Jorginho, Verratti/Locatelli and Barella is amazing, and beat so many big teams on the way to the cup.
Also, English fans are already insufferable with their arrogance. They are so entitled to winning and talk of 'hurt' when they don't get their God given right to win it, can't imagine how bad they would have gotten if they actually won it.
Also, English fans are already insufferable with their arrogance. They are so entitled to winning and talk of 'hurt' when they don't get their God given right to win it, can't imagine how bad they would have gotten if they actually won it.
Il Comodino
sorry about his english
I don't know for the UK but for an Italian the "it's coming home" attitude is something arrogant but this is simply because we have a different culture. We have something called "Scaramanzia" which would prevent us from singing such a song.
However, apart from the violent and the stupidity of wbooing the national anthem (which unfortunately happens everywhere) I liked the English fans a lot.
But .... It's Coming Rome
DKehoe
Gold Member
I've not heard about Scaramanzia before. Could you explain that?I don't know for the UK but for an Italian the "it's coming home" attitude is something arrogant but this is simply because we have a different culture. We have something called "Scaramanzia" which would prevent us from singing such a song.
However, apart from the violent and the stupidity of wbooing the national anthem (which unfortunately happens everywhere) I liked the English fans a lot.
But .... It's Coming Rome
No issues with booing, and being confident and even being arrogant. It's part of fun rivalry however making litter that tax payers have to pay for, violence with fights, as well as hospitalisation from drinking too much is kind of where the line should be drawn. All teams do it but for some reason England fans do more.
DKehoe
Gold Member
Do they?
SirTerry-T
Member
Your first paragraph was great and I wholeheartedly agree with it.
The second paragraph was a load of bollocks. How can we be entitled to winning when we hardly ever do!
SoggyBiscuit
Banned
Insufferable with arrogance 
Mate, ask any England fan whether we'd expect to win anything and 99% will say no.
It's coming home is a tongue in cheek meme. It's a bittersweet anthem to being a fan of English football, we're crazy for the game but we're used to having our hearts broken. Passionate, never arrogant.
Mate, ask any England fan whether we'd expect to win anything and 99% will say no.
It's coming home is a tongue in cheek meme. It's a bittersweet anthem to being a fan of English football, we're crazy for the game but we're used to having our hearts broken. Passionate, never arrogant.
Dr.Morris79
Gold Member
All that really matters is..
Are Pizza hut going to now do an advert with Rashford?
The English may not have won the cup, but we're still the best at having a laugh about ourselves.
Are Pizza hut going to now do an advert with Rashford?
The English may not have won the cup, but we're still the best at having a laugh about ourselves.
SoggyBiscuit
Banned
We're all just a bunch of brexiteers m8So much anti English biggotry and generalisations on Twitter today.
The strange thing is that it's acceptableAny other nation, and you would be accused of Xenophobia.
Il Comodino
sorry about his english
it is simply a superstition, in Italy if we hope that something good will happen, we do not declare it openly, because we believe it brings bad luck.
For example, everyone thought that Italy was the team that had played better football in this European cup and that we were stronger than England (right or wrong), but before the game no one say it and if someone says it is immediately taken back, following superstitious gestures.
Yes, it's something stupid , but superstition is part of our life and our culture, that's why the English "arrogance" of thinking having already won is strange twice
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Azurro
Banned
You don't need to have won anything to have the attitude that you should, that makes it more puzzling than anything. Even the ridiculous questions the journalists make, like when they asked Kasper Smeichel what it would mean for Denmark to stop football from "coming home". It obviously annoyed quite a few players. The song might be self deprecating, but it was not being singed like that.
Besides, you guys are annoying enough with the PL, with ridiculous shit like Neville's "Now THAT is a Premier League cross" and an overall attitude of looking down on other leagues and expecting wins in Europe just for showing up and being from the PL.
That's insufferable, let's not add actual national team success to it.
assurdum
Banned
I always thought England players were superior and honestly I don't expected to see my Italy win, but after seen them refuse the silver medals, they almost deserved it and I'm glad it's ended like this. I can understand the rage of the moment, but see such behaviour so unnecessary, quite arrogant and childish say a lot about their attitude for this match. It's neither they have played so better over the other team to justify such action.
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Dr.Morris79
Gold Member
Of course it's acceptable, we're seen as utterly racist, support our team 'too much' and are just general arseholes..So much anti English biggotry and generalisations on Twitter today.
The strange thing is that it's acceptable
So just stop being an arsehole, okay?
makes you laugh doesnt it.
SirTerry-T
Member
We got it in the RWC2003 too, English fans are arrogant, rest of the world are "passionate".
Its laughable really, most English fans are a pretty self-depreciating bunch, especially when it comes to any appearance in a sporting final but that wouldn't suit the narrative of how the rest of mainland Europe (and beyond) sees us.
Like I said... laughable
Its laughable really, most English fans are a pretty self-depreciating bunch, especially when it comes to any appearance in a sporting final but that wouldn't suit the narrative of how the rest of mainland Europe (and beyond) sees us.
Like I said... laughable
SoggyBiscuit
Banned
It's pretty common for players to remove their runners up medal. Stop trying to paint this as anything other than being bitterly disappointed not to win. Hardly as if the players weren't gracious in defeat ffs
SirKicksalot
Member
When everybody tells you you're drunk, maybe it's time to sit down. England was a complete circus for the past week or so and now you're acting like in that Chappelle Black Bush skit.
"We were self-deprecating when we did a World War Z on Wembley with flares up our arses" lmao