Sorry, maybe I wasn't clear enough. I'm not talking about provinces that are supposed to be uncolonized, I'm talking about all the newly added provinces automatically becoming uncolonized provinces, because they're not defined as owned in the game (because they don't exist before Art of War). For instance, half of Persia, half of India and so on will become colonizable provinces.
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Europa Universalis IV MP Community Thread of Don't trust the Russian or trains-Part 3
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Sorry, maybe I wasn't clear enough. I'm not talking about provinces that are supposed to be uncolonized, I'm talking about all the newly added provinces automatically becoming uncolonized provinces, because they're not defined as owned in the game (because they don't exist before Art of War). For instance, half of Persia, half of India and so on will become colonizable provinces.
LOL. Would be worth it just to experience that, black death on turbo mode.
Probably great for people with easy access to those lands, but ruinous to the game balance. After all, these new provinces are generally of a lower base tax value than those currently in the game, because they've split up some. The total is still higher, but not that much. But the save of course records the current base tax of every province, meaning that those provinces would retain their high base tax and on top of that, players with easy access to those regions could colonize all the new ones and have provinces with their own culture/religion that don't cost them any points. Sweet deal.
Paradox however has said nothing about any significant expansion of the number of provinces in Europe, so...
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I am almost 100% sure that save-games will not be compatible. If we start a game now, then we either abandon it when Art of War releases, or we revert to patch 1.7.3 before each session.
How about we use the excel file to vote whether to play now and revert when AoW releases, play now and restart when AoW releases or postpone until AoW releases?
I wouldnt mind postponing it since the other solutions seem a bit messy, but I am sure most disagree
I wouldnt mind postponing it since the other solutions seem a bit messy, but I am sure most disagree
Postponing is also somewhat messy though since nation selection would probably have to be redone, or at least people should be allowed to reconsider. I wouldn't want Brunei again for instance (I'd want Malacca if it has to be in the same region). That said, I do think we should postpone.
Yeah, reverting versions I'm definitely not eager about. I don't want to continue playing the current version when AoW is available.
Same, but on the other hand investing 12 hours of time for a game we KNOW we will scrap in 3 weeks is just... annoying to me.
Yes, though still preferable to reverting versions. That said, delaying honestly seems like the best option to me, because there is also the fact that we'd have to go through country selection all over again, and rating players based on six sessions sort of sucks
.But we need another vote on countries and another country picking round after the patch and DLC, because the balance will definitely change. I would say the earliest we could start a new game is 9 of November I think. I would be fine with postponing the game, though, in the end, but I could also play for fun until then. The new expansion seems really cool and almost a different game.
I doubt the balance will change all that much, given that the most striking changes seem to be in regions where most players aren't.
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I say we just delay, but everyone keeps their current country choices. Might make for some, uh, fun. I don't think Europe has been changed too much, so shouldn't affect too many people - at a cursory glance, only Lithuania seems to have much done to it.
Can I switch to Malacca in the immediate vicinity of Brunei though?
Shouldn't affect anyone in any way given that I'm a gajillion miles away from anyone else.
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Can I switch to Malacca in the immediate vicinity of Brunei though?
Shouldn't affect anyone in any way given that I'm a gajillion miles away from anyone else.
No, or the Kazani hordes will make it their sole mission in life to annex you by setting up the Vereenigde Oostindische Compagnie.
I am with Crab on this one, lets for the most part keep our countries and just see what happens. Nobody of us planned for this so we are all sort of in the same random spot, with maybe Kab as the exception.
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With Eastern Europe so crowded, I'll take my chances, Malacca it is
Crab has joined the coalition against Kabouter.
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Why buy sins? Morfeo seems to have as much sin as he wants free.
Mgoblue201
Won't stop picking the right nation
I don't mind waiting. Qara Qoyunlu should be much more interesting to play in the next patch.
Since I am the face of liberal and democracy I have taken action and created a new sheet in our document where we can vote if we shall or shall not delay the game session untill release of Arts of War.
Hopefully our left wing anarchists (Morfeo, Roboleon and Kabouter, hell the last one even has a red name!) will not try stopping this democratic process.
GO FORTH AND VOTE
VOTING ENDS TONIGHT AT 00:00 (IN 11 HOURS AND 6 MINUETS FROM NOW)
Hopefully our left wing anarchists (Morfeo, Roboleon and Kabouter, hell the last one even has a red name!) will not try stopping this democratic process.
GO FORTH AND VOTE
VOTING ENDS TONIGHT AT 00:00 (IN 11 HOURS AND 6 MINUETS FROM NOW)
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thanks!
too bad you have to leave the party a bit early because... reasons..
God damnit!
... do you see what you are doing?
I see that the majority is leaning towards a delay. Excellent. Gives me a chance to finally join your session. Been lurking in this thread (part 1/2) for some time and have finally found the time to take part in what has now turned from civilized and polite to all out warfare. Again, excellent. I hope that carries over to game 3.
There's very little Eastern activity going on in terms of picks, which is a shame given the new content (trade + Indonesia/china). I suppose I better pick a central European state to get in on the action. Been plotting out your picks in a 1444 map to see the distribution and potential conflict-zones and came to the conclusion that it is rather pointless. So I'm just going to pick The Hansa and stay at a safe distance from Fitz.
There's very little Eastern activity going on in terms of picks, which is a shame given the new content (trade + Indonesia/china). I suppose I better pick a central European state to get in on the action. Been plotting out your picks in a 1444 map to see the distribution and potential conflict-zones and came to the conclusion that it is rather pointless. So I'm just going to pick The Hansa and stay at a safe distance from Fitz.
Sounds like a good choice, Hansa is a good nation to play as haly proved last game.
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I'm in Oxford now. My Internet is blazing fast, top 1% in UK. I say we play speed 5.
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Hiya! Really keen to join. I'm in Australia, so would lag be an issue?
Planning to play as the Livonian Order if it's cool with everyone else.
Planning to play as the Livonian Order if it's cool with everyone else.
Livonian order is fine, your rating (3 for new players) allows you to play them. Lag being issue seems to depend as much on connection quality and computer speed as it does on distance. Haly for instance is in New York (iirc) and never lags, whereas crab when he is in Wales lags a ton, despite the host (me) being much nearer to him (in the Netherlands).
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With Poland, Sweden and Novgorod being human players, you better be prepared!
just sayin'
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Livonian order is a brave choice!
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Do we still have the no annex rule?
Askin' for a friend..
Askin' for a friend..
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But seriously, LO will probably be annexed or vassalized within two sessions with the current player setup, so I would really suggest looking elsewhere if I were you
Eh, yeah, the new guy Sasnsansansansansasa cant join I am afraid.
He read the time zones wrong I think.
Probably for the best that nobody is playing Livonian Order, a state that is fully conquerable from day 1 surrounded by players of much stronger states.
Also as the rules have been brought up, probably worth updating the OP so that there's no confusion. Removing the No Kills rule, and the 50% portion of the Dictated Concession rule for example.
Also as the rules have been brought up, probably worth updating the OP so that there's no confusion. Removing the No Kills rule, and the 50% portion of the Dictated Concession rule for example.
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Well that's a shahahame, the more the merrier
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