In Belgium voting is mandatory, as it should be in every country.
what do you mean with obligatory? what happens if you don't?
43,11% EU global.High turnout estimates in Italy and Belgium exceeding 60%
what do you mean with obligatory? what happens if you don't?
43,11% EU global.
There are already restrictions in the European treaties where citizens who cannot economically sustain themselves are unable to permanently reside in another member state after a period of 3 months. That seems like it should already satisfy what you've identified as a supposed problem, no?
I'm sorry but the political landscape makes it easier to enact change if we compare the situation to our parents generation but even back then civil rights movements, speaking for womens rights and so on took place.
But you are saying it's too much to ask that people would take a few hours of their day to go through candidates and eventually write a number to a piece of paper?
Laws are only as good as the enforcement, plus said law only covers immigrants from member states.
The EU can't really force itself into the populace; that's the work of the national governments, and they sure as fuck HATE to promote the EU.While the EU has unjustly been a scapegoat for many things going wrong, it is also an institution that has absolutely failed at reaching the voter, and to many, it is still a faceless entity with some economic advantages (that are waning). For a democratic institution that is a big problem.
Forcing people to vote on something they don't care about doesn't seem like a good way to solve the issue.
Juncker asks for the presidency of the commission.
That's awfully improper considering the polls are still open, but he's probably not wrong. French PS's downfall fucked any chance Schulz had.
What's this?
The EU can't really force itself into the populace; that's the work of the national governments, and they sure as fuck HATE to promote the EU.
Having a voting base largely oblivious to the workings of the EU means that local parties can can claim every success in Brussels (read: subsidies) as as their own, yet use the mean, bigoted eurocrats as scapegoats whenever shit goes sideways (see: austerity).
Coalition discussions will be interesting, I don't think it's clear cut. Especially considering it's not set in stone what parties join the EPP or the S&D.
I don't think the current S&D establishment has the balls to go for a left coalition.
Should the political beliefs of a wide variety of people really be cast aside simply because they feel disenfranchised or betrayed by party politics and thus don't vote? In the UK, if we're talking national level for a second, the main parties are viewed by many as different shades of the same colour, which creates a disconnect between them and a significant number of people. Asking those same people to vote in an election for a legal and political body which they feel even more disconnected from, whether due to ignorance, misinformation or another reason, simply isn't going to happen.
#EP2014 'Die Welt' exit poll:
UKIP - 30%
LAB - 26%
CON - 23%
LDEM - 8%
GRN - 7%
From twitter so if its fake I apologize
The EU needs a rethink. it appears..
Seems like the BBC were just implying it was correct.
UKIP winning UK and FN winning in France.
For shame, for fucking shame.
It'll be all over the news when UKIP inevitably does well
I was going to make the same post about FN in France. We're all fucked.
The EU can't really force itself into the populace; that's the work of the national governments, and they sure as fuck HATE to promote the EU.
Having a voting base largely oblivious to the workings of the EU means that local parties can can claim every success in Brussels (read: subsidies) as as their own, yet use the mean, bigoted eurocrats as scapegoats whenever shit goes sideways (see: austerity).
It's a crying shame that people are barely engaging and it shows how uncultured and pigheaded is the average European citizen, but rest assured that the biggest parties have a vested interest in keeping it that way. I am 34 years old and I have yet to see a single campaign from any Spanish administration explaining with clear words what's the purpose of the European Parliament and why it's important to vote.
UKIP winning UK and FN winning in France.
For shame, for fucking shame.
Italian exit polls incoming.
Partito Democratico 33%
Movimento 5 Stelle 26,5%
Forza Italia 18%
Lega Nord 6%
Tsipras 4,2%
NCD 4%
Is this from Corriere homepage headline?
They didn't even bother to write a stand alone post for them.
There's really no easy solution to this. If the voters don't vote, any of the established parties can claim "the disenfranchised would have voted for us if they weren't fed up with the way we do things". There's no way to account for "political beliefs" if the voters refuse to vote. There's no "default" to fall back to, you can't just select someone that doesn't win an election in a democracy.
In a way, things getting worse will make people care more again. It will also lead to the current establishment loosing influence and making way for fresh blood and ideas. Not that this couldn't be avoided, but if no party can gain the voters trust, big changes are needed.
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The EU can't really force itself into the populace; that's the work of the national governments, and they sure as fuck HATE to promote the EU.
Having a voting base largely oblivious to the workings of the EU means that local parties can can claim every success in Brussels (read: subsidies) as as their own, yet use the mean, bigoted eurocrats as scapegoats whenever shit goes sideways (see: austerity).
It's a crying shame that people are barely engaging and it shows how uncultured and pigheaded is the average European citizen, but rest assured that the biggest parties have a vested interest in keeping it that way. I am 34 years old and I have yet to see a single campaign from any Spanish administration explaining with clear words what's the purpose of the European Parliament and why it's important to vote.
Well, yeah, but that's far from the complete picture
Oh yeah, Repubblica page updated and I saw the "La7" as their source.
Oh well, I could deal with it, but I'm kinda sure there's a lot of M5S pranksters telling they voted PD just to screw with polls.and me :'(
Where did you get that?
It's from BBC.Where did you get that?
Cool thanksIt's from BBC.
Where did you get that?
EDIT: What is this magic, it just said "After 1 count complete"...
That's kind of a good point, actually - I'd never thought of it that way. If only thirty-odd percent of the public are actually engaged enough to vote in EU elections, how can they be trusted to make an informed and rational decision on membership of the EU?It's the same in the UK; all the election leaflets we got addressed national issues nothing European Parliament related. No wonder few know what the hell this is all about and so many use it as protest vote.
Further proof if ever it was needed that people are too ignorant to vote in an "in/out" referendum.